Completely/Evenly Random Discussion 2: The Randomer Discussion

[jinjerJOSH22]

Just noticed a bubble nest in my 60, I actually noticed the female blowing bubbles in front of the tank, grabbed my phone and then spotted it at the back

 

[Crispii]

Looking good. Does it come out much or is it shy like my BN?

It's one of the most active pleco that I kept (granted, this is a young pleco). However, today is the day where my pleco decides to get lazy.

On a side note, why do I keep assuming this pleco is a male even though I am not 100% certain on the sex?

 

[FinalFins]

Wish I could get a BN.... If I found some local smaller ancistrus I would love to grab those. a.claro is a fave.

Also, I have science fair stuff this week. Any ideas what to do?

 

[Crispii]

Also, I have science fair stuff this week. Any ideas what to do?

Ugh. Science fairs.

 

[Feohw]

It's one of the most active pleco that I kept (granted, this is a young pleco). However, today is the day where my pleco decides to get lazy.

On a side note, why do I keep assuming this pleco is a male even though I am not 100% certain on the sex?

Grrr. Lucky. Mine cowers behind my vampire whenever I come near the tank. I always assume plecos are male for whatever reason. And who wouldn't want to wake up one day to see their pleco had turned into Davy Jones?

Wish I could get a BN.... If I found some local smaller ancistrus I would love to grab those. a.claro is a fave.

Also, I have science fair stuff this week. Any ideas what to do?

I nearly bought a claro at one point. Didn't want to mix it with my starlight though. Very nice pleco.

 

[FinalFins]

Shoulda bought the claro.

For the science fair I'm kinda tempted to experiment with brine shrimp like pH solutions and stuff. But suggest anything. I have no inspiration.

 

[Crispii]

Shoulda bought the claro.

For the science fair I'm kinda tempted to experiment with ****, like pH solutions and stuff. But suggest anything. I have no inspiration.

You can use my science fair idea, which was determining the best way of disinfecting bacteria from a toothbrush. Conclusion was that hot water does the job.

 

[PascalKrypt]

So I'm almost home(!) but finally ended up in a train with power plugs Yay modern times.

Me too. My banjo was 50 euro. The most expensive fish I plan to get are 100 euro and 200 euro. That will be a hit. That's a beautiful pleco.

Spotted this just now o.o now I really must know what you plan on getting. That is a LOT.
You are very brave

Can't wait to see that 125! Reminds me of the tank I saw on youtube that sparked my interest in snakeskins. My pearl used to nibble my fingers as your three spot did, he is nothing like the fish he used to be now though.

And yesh.... I've noticed you on pretty late quite often. I was going to remark that the three Europeans were on at that hour while the Americans were absent for the most part.

Was it by chance "Dan Hiteshew"? His mixed Gourami tank is what got me into them, those Snakeskins were huge.

My sleeping pattern is none existent, the other day(s) I was up over 33 hours for no good reason.

That was the one. Loved the size and colour of his. Pity it ended up dying, but it was magnificent.

My sleep pattern has always been a bit messy. Even during my exams I didn't have the sense to get a proper nights sleep. 33 hours is a lot though. I need to up my numbers (not)

I think I've seen that video actually, where the huge snakeskin was dying and he made a video of it turning sideways and how they always died when that happened? Funny coincidence, I got there trying to help my LFS speculate on what was happening to their bandeds that died in droves in a similar manner. I have to regrettably report that I rejoiced too soon btw, one of mine still ended up like that two weeks later. Feel a bit sad for the other one being left alone but I don't dare put any fish with it unless a month has passed and it is still fine. Since no one seems to have a clue what is going on and whether it is contagious or not.

Eeeh.. my biorhythm is about exact reverse. I tend to prefer staying awake (and am most alter and productive) at about 1AM - 5AM. I hate being awake in the morning, 8am to 1pm. Ugh how did I ever survive having to wake up at 5 for 6 years in school =/

Probably the white ones (Oryzias latipes).

Oh nice! I spotted a few today. I think woworae with the orange rims is by far the most popular, it is the only one I see regularly. Don't think I know anyone that actually keeps them though, a shame.

Just noticed a bubble nest in my 60, I actually noticed the female blowing bubbles in front of the tank, grabbed my phone and then spotted it at the back
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Nice! Well, or not. Hope that isn't signalling territorial stakes owo (you better watch out, you better not cry....)

Also, I have science fair stuff this week. Any ideas what to do?

Oooh, I've heard of those. Legendary stuff from sitcoms and B movies
Paper volcano?

 

[FinalFins]

I'm in a advanced bio class so looking for something more advanced. CrispiI 's idea was nice.

 

[Feohw]

So I'm almost home(!) but finally ended up in a train with power plugs Yay modern times.


Spotted this just now o.o now I really must know what you plan on getting. That is a LOT.
You are very brave




I think I've seen that video actually, where the huge snakeskin was dying and he made a video of it turning sideways and how they always died when that happened? Funny coincidence, I got there trying to help my LFS speculate on what was happening to their bandeds that died in droves in a similar manner. I have to regrettably report that I rejoiced too soon btw, one of mine still ended up like that two weeks later. Feel a bit sad for the other one being left alone but I don't dare put any fish with it unless a month has passed and it is still fine. Since no one seems to have a clue what is going on and whether it is contagious or not.

Eeeh.. my biorhythm is about exact reverse. I tend to prefer staying awake (and am most alter and productive) at about 1AM - 5AM. I hate being awake in the morning, 8am to 1pm. Ugh how did I ever survive having to wake up at 5 for 6 years in school =/


Oh nice! I spotted a few today. I think woworae with the orange rims is by far the most popular, it is the only one I see regularly. Don't think I know anyone that actually keeps them though, a shame.


Nice! Well, or not. Hope that isn't signalling territorial stakes owo (you better watch out, you better not cry....)


Oooh, I've heard of those. Legendary stuff from sitcoms and B movies
Paper volcano?

The fish are a Synodontis granulosus and a congo spotted puffer. There was another fish around that price range and I am completely blanking on it. Guess I don't want it as much as the others!

And yeah, that was the video by the same guy. Not the first video that I saw of his, or the one that got me interested in snakeskins. But the one about the loss of the gourami. Shame. Sorry you lost the gourami. That sucks!

What fish did you get btw?

 

[jinjerJOSH22]

Nice! Well, or not. Hope that isn't signalling territorial stakes owo (you better watch out, you better not cry....)

Doesn’t look like they’re going to be too territorial, no more than usual anyway

 

[PascalKrypt]

The fish are a Synodontis granulosus and a congo spotted puffer. There was another fish around that price range and I am completely blanking on it. Guess I don't want it as much as the others!

And yeah, that was the video by the same guy. Not the first video that I saw of his, or the one that got me interested in snakeskins. But the one about the loss of the gourami. Shame. Sorry you lost the gourami. That sucks!

What fish did you get btw?

Congo puffer o.o you ready to go brackish? That is a lot of effort. Actually there were quite a lot of puffers in the store I went to, all of them were housed individually and had nametags on their tanks :3 it was really cute.

I don't mind losing it, just really hoping the other one is fine. Would suck to lose both. I'm going back to the store though, seller told me specifically to go back if I experienced trouble with them since the batch was so wonky. But fish stores are not supplied the week of christmas so it'll have to wait.

A group of Nannostomus Eques, those slanted pencilfish Been eyeballing them for a good long while.
Also brought back a male paradise with really interesting colours, appears to be hybrid of red and blue strains as he is too light for a red (but too distinctly marked to be albino) but has the body and tail shape of one.

I'm in a advanced bio class so looking for something more advanced. CrispiI 's idea was nice.

It was a joke suggestion xD
I remember this really cool interactive experiment people in my class did for a science project where they had winegums that tasted the same but had different colours. They let people taste them and asked them to describe the flavour. Then people were blindfolded and asked to taste the same winegums, then say which is which.
People had such a strong association with colours and flavours that not only did they not notice initially the candy tasted the same, many were still convinced they knew which were which when they tasted them blindfolded (obviously it was a 50/50 shot of getting it right).

I grew garden cress in boxes with different cutouts to mimic different light conditions to show what difference that made on the development of the plants.

Maybe ideas? owo
I know similar to Crispii, some other people in my year did bacterial swaps and proved that the canteen was more gross than the public toilets. That was a popular one

Uhh, and another year we made a clip with windows movie player with flashes and beeps at different frequencies and made people count either one or the other, to test the way sense interference makes it hard to concentrate properly (this is bizarrely hard if you make the frequencies pretty fast). There was this one student that misunderstood the assignment and counted both flashes and beeps. And he got both right (the correct number was upwards of 100, he was the only one that got either of them right, let alone both). That was bizarre O.O we accidentally discovered a true genius. Freaked out that student.

Doesn’t look like they’re going to be too territorial, no more than usual anyway
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Cute!

 

[Feohw]

Congo puffer o.o you ready to go brackish? That is a lot of effort. Actually there were quite a lot of puffers in the store I went to, all of them were housed individually and had nametags on their tanks :3 it was really cute.

I don't mind losing it, just really hoping the other one is fine. Would suck to lose both. I'm going back to the store though, seller told me specifically to go back if I experienced trouble with them since the batch was so wonky. But fish stores are not supplied the week of christmas so it'll have to wait.

A group of Nannostomus Eques, those slanted pencilfish Been eyeballing them for a good long while.
Also brought back a male paradise with really interesting colours, appears to be hybrid of red and blue strains as he is too light for a red (but too distinctly marked to be albino) but has the body and tail shape of one.


It was a joke suggestion xD
I remember this really cool interactive experiment people in my class did for a science project where they had winegums that tasted the same but had different colours. They let people taste them and asked them to describe the flavour. Then people were blindfolded and asked to taste the same winegums, then say which is which.
People had such a strong association with colours and flavours that not only did they not notice initially the candy tasted the same, many were still convinced they knew which were which when they tasted them blindfolded (obviously it was a 50/50 shot of getting it right).

I grew garden cress in boxes with different cutouts to mimic different light conditions to show what difference that made on the development of the plants.

Maybe ideas? owo
I know similar to Crispii, some other people in my year did bacterial swaps and proved that the canteen was more gross than the public toilets. That was a popular one

Uhh, and another year we made a clip with windows movie player with flashes and beeps at different frequencies and made people count either one or the other, to test the way sense interference makes it hard to concentrate properly (this is bizarrely hard if you make the frequencies pretty fast). There was this one student that misunderstood the assignment and counted both flashes and beeps. And he got both right (the correct number was upwards of 100, he was the only one that got either of them right, let alone both). That was bizarre O.O we accidentally discovered a true genius. Freaked out that student.


Cute!

Nope. Spotted congo. Tetraodon schoutedenI not Tetraodon miurus, though both are fresh. The Congo puffer (miurus) does look incredibly brackish though. The schout is supposed to be one of the only, and the best, community puffers. Veerrryy expensive and its not easy to get though. Brackish is meh to me.

Ooh. Lovely. I've never seen a pencilfish in person which is a shame. They look very interesting. I've never seen paradise fish in person either! Stunning fish. I may have seen one at one point but it wasn't labelled. It was much bigger than I'd anticipated if it was one.

 

[FinalFins]

Time to do a water change because I am BORED.

Also, does erythromycin kill benificial bacteria? Thinking of getting some to deal with cyano problem but spot treating w/ h2o2 takes SOOOO long.

 

[PascalKrypt]

Nope. Spotted congo. Tetraodon schoutedenI not Tetraodon miurus, though both are fresh. The Congo puffer (miurus) does look incredibly brackish though. The schout is supposed to be one of the only, and the best, community puffers. Veerrryy expensive and its not easy to get though. Brackish is meh to me.

Ooh. Lovely. I've never seen a pencilfish in person which is a shame. They look very interesting. I've never seen paradise fish in person either! Stunning fish. I may have seen one at one point but it wasn't labelled. It was much bigger than I'd anticipated if it was one.

The shop I went to had quite a few of them, I'll definitely return at some point and get a few of the other species at well! They charm me much more than tetras and are zero risk for fin nipping. Since I have soft water they suit my water too. I've considered them before but never really bit the bullet, if these do well for me I'll get some marginatus (nano variety, they had a strain with bright red fins, very beautiful) and beckfordiI (the 'standard' horizontal pencilfish). I've always had a thing for these eques though, an LFS near me stocks them too but they are more expensive there. They remind me of seahorses

Oh wow, I kind of assumed all larger puffers were brackish. I had no idea there were larger freshwater ones too! Though they probably still require pretty hard water? Interesting though, I can see you being willing to fork out the dough for that one, definitely.

It's kind of a shame you don't see paradise as much anymore, they are real eyecatchers. I guess it is kind of a problem with today's easy access to all sorts of fish that you have a fish with a betta-like personality that needs 10 times as much space.

Time to do a water change because I am BORED.

Also, does erythromycin kill benificial bacteria? Thinking of getting some to deal with cyano problem but spot treating w/ h2o2 takes SOOOO long.

Please, for the love of mankind and fish, do not use antibiotics for something as minor as getting rid of a bio-balance problem. First off, it's pointless as you need to fix the cause not the symptoms. But moreover, you risk getting some very scary diseases in that tank by routinely wiping out the stable water bacteria. Please Do yourself a favour.

 

[jake37]

When I want something random I try to find a good random generator. Alas they are not very random - so then I just flip a coin until I get the answer I want. When I was a kid lots of stuff was really amazing - from the snake we found in the back yard to the little blue-jay we raised one summer but the funniest thing was when my sister cat brought her a live chipmonk for dinner. Some people do the most amazing dances when faced with the prospect of an amazing dinner.

 

[Feohw]

The shop I went to had quite a few of them, I'll definitely return at some point and get a few of the other species at well! They charm me much more than tetras and are zero risk for fin nipping. Since I have soft water they suit my water too. I've considered them before but never really bit the bullet, if these do well for me I'll get some marginatus (nano variety, they had a strain with bright red fins, very beautiful) and beckfordiI (the 'standard' horizontal pencilfish). I've always had a thing for these eques though, an LFS near me stocks them too but they are more expensive there. They remind me of seahorses

Oh wow, I kind of assumed all larger puffers were brackish. I had no idea there were larger freshwater ones too! Though they probably still require pretty hard water? Interesting though, I can see you being willing to fork out the dough for that one, definitely.

It's kind of a shame you don't see paradise as much anymore, they are real eyecatchers. I guess it is kind of a problem with today's easy access to all sorts of fish that you have a fish with a betta-like personality that needs 10 times as much space.


Please, for the love of mankind and fish, do not use antibiotics for something as minor as getting rid of a bio-balance problem. First off, it's pointless as you need to fix the cause not the symptoms. But moreover, you risk getting some very scary diseases in that tank by routinely wiping out the stable water bacteria. Please Do yourself a favour.

I just looked at Rachel O'Leary's video about them, I can see why they would remind you of seahorses. My first thought was that they kinda reminded me of a chubby Indostomus in some way. They just became much more interesting!

There are some large freshwater puffers. Mbu and Fahaka are the main ones. I believe the spotted congos do best in moderately hard water, but there's not much I can find about that.

 

[PascalKrypt]

Aaaand I just checked the wholesaler's website and they are officially out of the fish I wanted to order T.T ugh. I should have arranged this even if it was inconvenient.
I guess I'll be going for their cousins now.. will have to settle for that. If those are still left after the holidays when you can't order.. Bit salty right now.

I went as far as to mail them to ask them if they could tell me which shop bought the last ones if it wasn't a private sale. Pretty cheeky but at this point I don't care anymore

 

[Feohw]

I just saw my honeycomb!!!!! I don't usually freak about but man am I happy right now!!. Ugghhghj

 

[NC122606]

I just saw my honeycomb!!!!! I don't usually freak about but man am I happy right now!!. Ugghhghj

Nice! We need a story behind it if you haven't already!

 

[Feohw]

Nice! We need a story behind it if you haven't already!

I briefly talked about it before. I got it a month ago and haven't seen it since the first day. They have a worse reputation than clown plecos when it comes to hiding. It's late here so the lights are off. But when I turned my phones torch on to find something I noticed something freaking out. Thought it was the hongsloi but upon closer inspection it was this:

The pic is old. Oddly this it the only nocturnal fish I have that truly acts nocturnal.

Okay, this is the least active most active fish I've ever had. It's going crazy darting everywhere. If it was any other fish something would be seriously wrong. They eat from the surface which is why I thought it may have starved. But it's going mad after all the food. It's even trying to gobble down my fingers. Love it.

 

[Crispii]

Just got back from the movies, and look at all of these notifications.

 

[FinalFins]

Just woke up. Back to stocking research!

Please, for the love of mankind and fish, do not use antibiotics for something as minor as getting rid of a bio-balance problem. First off, it's pointless as you need to fix the cause not the symptoms. But moreover, you risk getting some very scary diseases in that tank by routinely wiping out the stable water bacteria. Please Do yourself a favour.

I'm not sure what is causing it. I know it got introduced from my 5 gallon when I started the 20 gallon and it's been staying around. It's probably too much natural material because I have the most fragile vals and they die on the ground and I leave it there because it's in the middle of a jungle of jungle vals and it's impossible to get in there. I've researched and lots of people suggest erythromycin to treat it.

 

[NC122606]

Forgot to say but the Male Gourami I was treating ended up dying.
I noticed that it only ate that one day and would not eat anything after that. I'll have to get another male because the female does look a bit lonely and less active when the mate was in there. A side note is that the female is healthy and does eat what I offer it.

 

[Feohw]

I'm not sure what is causing it. I know it got introduced from my 5 gallon when I started the 20 gallon and it's been staying around. It's probably too much natural material because I have the most fragile vals and they die on the ground and I leave it there because it's in the middle of a jungle of jungle vals and it's impossible to get in there. I've researched and lots of people suggest erythromycin to treat it.

I got rid of mine by doing large water changes, cleaning the filter and increasing flow and oxygenation. Have you already tried any of these? People do use erythromycin, but I've found that its completely treatable without its use. I wouldn't want to use antibiotics for something like this as that can lead to problems I don't want to deal with. Best to solve the issue, get rid of what's causing it and ensure it won't come back due to the same issues as before persisting even after treatment. I've only ever had issues when water flow wasn't great. Couple that with when I couldn't open my filter to clean the gunk for quite a long time and I had serious issues. Cyano can be a real pain. Once you find the cause and remedy that, it becomes fairly manageable ime.

I also have a pair of long tweezers that I use when I need to reach areas I can't normally get to, like into the dense amazon sword I have. Would this help with getting rid of your dead plants? Or too thickly planted for tweezers?

Forgot to say but the Male Gourami I was treating ended up dying.
I noticed that it only ate that one day and would not eat anything after that. I'll have to get another male because the female does look a bit lonely and less active when the mate was in there. A side note is that the female is healthy and does eat what I offer it.

Well that sucks. Sorry to hear. I've also noticed that my gourami doesn't act the same without his partner. I'd love to get him some more, but he'd probably kill those too... Hopefully your female perks up when she has a new partner.

 

[FinalFins]

Thanks. I've decided to go blackout to treat it.

 

[PascalKrypt]

I'm not sure what is causing it. I know it got introduced from my 5 gallon when I started the 20 gallon and it's been staying around. It's probably too much natural material because I have the most fragile vals and they die on the ground and I leave it there because it's in the middle of a jungle of jungle vals and it's impossible to get in there. I've researched and lots of people suggest erythromycin to treat it.

Thanks. I've decided to go blackout to treat it.

I agree with Feohw, though rather it seems to be a combination of vectors including flow, amount of organic debris decomposing and most of all (in my experience) lighting, so a blackout is probably a good fix albeit possibly only temporary. My LFS had a massive cyano problem appear in all of their tanks out of nowhere when they upgraded the lights on their display tanks. They changed nothing else and they had never had any problems with it before. I would dI'm lights permanently or cut back on the daylight hours.
And definitely clean out organic waste. I've only dealt with cyano twice and in both cases it was gone after a week or so. In the one case it grew on top of my lights cover when I had a powerful airstone causing splashing that made the cover permanently wet. The other time was when one of my tanks had an adult inhabitant die in it (natural causes suspected) but I couldn't find it and the cycle could handle it, so I left it in there. Cyano appeared on top of algae growing in the java moss near the surface, just below the lights. After 10 days I did a massive water change and cleaned out the algae (and with it, the attached cyano), the remnants faded away and it didn't come back.

Forgot to say but the Male Gourami I was treating ended up dying.
I noticed that it only ate that one day and would not eat anything after that. I'll have to get another male because the female does look a bit lonely and less active when the mate was in there. A side note is that the female is healthy and does eat what I offer it.

I'm sorry to hear that Looks like it might have been a bacterial issue after all, it is not uncommon for those to appear cured when in reality, you've only treated the outward symptoms and it continues to cause systemic damage and then comes back with a vengeance. Sorry about that. It really hurts when you try so hard and still fail.

 

[FinalFins]

Bruh....

 

[Crispii]

Bruh....

I approve of this. This is worth a 5 star rating. Very creative indeed.

 

[Feohw]

The fact that it has 401 ratings and 4 stars says it all. The perfect puddle to simulate the cups they live in in their natural habitat, petco.

 

[Crispii]

The fact that it has 401 ratings and 4 stars says it all. The perfect puddle to simulate the cups they live in in their natural habitat, petco.

This could actually make a good biotope setup for bettas if I do say so myself.

 

[Feohw]

This could actually make a good biotope setup for bettas if I do say so myself.

You should reconsider the 5 gallon you are planning. Far too much water, they wouldn't experience that in the wild. Tut tut tut. This would suit you well.

 

[Crispii]

You should reconsider the 5 gallon you are planning. Far too much water, they wouldn't experience that in the wild. Tut tut tut. This would suit you well.

That's what I'm thinking! So far, the only animals that resides in the 5 are some shrimps.

 

[NC122606]

Great...
I missed it because they took it down.
They must be watching us!

I am going to do Discus no matter what but,
I am getting a feeling I want to try a fish out again that I had...

 

[Feohw]

Kribssssss

 

[Crispii]

I am going to do Discus no matter what but,
I am getting a feeling I want to try a fish out again that I had...

I really want to keep discus, but not those dinky, flashy ones.

 

[NC122606]

I really want to keep discus, but not those dinky, flashy ones.

Well of course since you love wild Angelfish.

Question of the day:
What is one thing your fish do that annoys you?
For me is my Keyholes moving the sand from underneath the Cichild cave and making it near tipping...

 

[fishboy23]

In my old goldfish tank they always look like their hungry so people always feed them for example yesterday three people fed them one of which gave them a handful of flakes which means I have to clean the tank more

 

[Feohw]

What is one thing your fish do that annoys you?
For me is my Keyholes moving the sand from underneath the Cichild cave and making it near tipping...

There are quite a few things my fish do that are a bit annoying, its hard to pick just one

My honeycomb sits in a very obscure place all day waiting for nightfall. I literally took all my decor out a few weeks ago and didn't see her in any of them. She must have wedged herself in one of the only places I can't see her. She didn't even come out to get back into the water. She's the cutest fish I've seen, so I'd like to see her in the light more... I knew what I was getting into though.

 

[Crispii]

Question of the day:
What is one thing your fish do that annoys you?
For me is my Keyholes moving the sand from underneath the Cichild cave and making it near tipping...

The one thing that annoys me is when my Altums decide to eat food that is not meant for them. I used to keep bottom dwelling catfish and every time I add pellets in, they would go and eat it. The same thing could be said about vegetables. My Altums would go and try to eat cucumbers that was meant for the pleco.

 

[NC122606]

In my old goldfish tank they always look like their hungry so people always feed them for example yesterday three people fed them one of which gave them a handful of flakes which means I have to clean the tank more

Yes! My Mollies are always hungry!!!

There are quite a few things my fish do that are a bit annoying, its hard to pick just one

My honeycomb sits in a very obscure place all day waiting for nightfall. I literally took all my decor out a few weeks ago and didn't see her in any of them. She must have wedged herself in one of the only places I can't see her. She didn't even come out to get back into the water. She's the cutest fish I've seen, so I'd like to see her in the light more... I knew what I was getting into though.

But at least you know she is alive!

The one thing that annoys me is when my Altums decide to eat food that is not meant for them. I used to keep bottom dwelling catfish and every time I add pellets in, they would go and eat it. The same thing could be said about vegetables. My Altums would go and try to eat cucumbers that was meant for the pleco.

Same thing, my mollies try to eat the pellets as they go down to the bottom.

Also quick question everyone,
So if I use a python can I fill the tank up with the tap water and then add conditioner? Or do I have to add it before I add water to the tank? I want to try and make water changes easier so I’m just wondering...

 

[Feohw]

Yes! My Mollies are always hungry!!!


But at least you know she is alive!


Same thing, my mollies try to eat the pellets as they go down to the bottom.

Also quick question everyone,
So if I use a python can I fill the tank up with the tap water and then add conditioner? Or do I have to add it before I add water to the tank? I want to try and make water changes easier so I’m just wondering...

I still believe there's a good chance your clown is still kicking, wake up at 3 in the morning like I did and you may be surprised. Though it helps that I'm a night owl.

I would use conditioner first. For the full volume of the tank.

 

[NC122606]

I still believe there's a good chance your clown is still kicking, wake up at 3 in the morning like I did and you may be surprised. Though it helps that I'm a night owl.

I would use conditioner first. For the full volume of the tank.

Maybe.

Also, when I am filling with tap water do I put the conditioner for the whole tank in the water that is currently inside? So when I fill it up I will not need to add conditioner?

 

[Feohw]

Maybe.

Also, when I am filling with tap water do I put the conditioner for the whole tank in the water that is currently inside? So when I fill it up I will not need to add conditioner?

Yep. If the tank is 50 gallons, add conditioner that treats the whole 50 gallon (obviously there won't actually be 50 gallons due to actual inside dimensions and decor etc but I still like to treat for it all) and then begin filling. You won't need to add more after that.

 

[Heron]

Random question: What is the coolest thing that you found? For me, it's finding $20 on the floor when I was walking out from my history class today.

I found a 20 south African Rand note on the pavement in London on New year's Eve 20+ years ago. It's not worth much so I kept it instead of trying to change it to proper money and it has become a lucky charm. I still keep it in my wallet everywhere I go for luck.

 

[SM1199]

Well of course since you love wild Angelfish.

Question of the day:
What is one thing your fish do that annoys you?
For me is my Keyholes moving the sand from underneath the Cichild cave and making it near tipping...

My current fish don't do much to annoy me. My plakat bites me when I put my hands anywhere in his 10 gallon tank, thinking they'll magically drop food, but that's pretty tolerable. He does have a pretty strong bite though.

What's WAY more annoying are his neighbors, the gerbils. I have three females in a fish-tank-converted-gerbil-tank 29 gallon. As most people know, gerbils are most active at night. And BOY are they LOUD. They start by running on their wheel at 1 am which squeaks very loudly, waking up both myself and my boyfriend. So I get up and grease their wheel with vegetable oil and go back to bed. Thing is, they LOVE vegetable oil and have figured out how to balance themselves on the wheel so that they can reach the rotational part and lick the oil off. It keeps them quiet for a few minutes... But then they run out of oil and hop back on their de-greased wheel and run more. So then I remove their wheel entirely and go back to bed again. Then they get bored and start chewing up their cardboard, which is just as loud. So I remove their cardboard and substitute it for some hay (quiet chew toy!) and go to bed AGAIN. Then they get bored of the hay after half an hour and one naughty girl in particular jumps up the side of the glass, grabs onto the plastic lip of the tank, and - WHILE HANGING - starts chewing the plastic, which is INCREDIBLY loud. So I smear some soap around the whole plastic lip and go back to bed. Then I hear her jump... take a single bite... then drop back down to the bedding.

This has been our nightly routine for the past week. They used to be just be fine after I greased their wheel, but they've been getting very creative lately and every week they've figured out the new trick I've tried to stop them from being loud, and every week I've had to figure out a new trick. And it's not like I don't feed them! They have a whole bowl of food they could decide to chew on quietly instead! Sometimes they use their metal food bowl as a noise tool too by bashing it up against the glass. They also love attention, so every time I put my hand in the cage to do something, at least one of them will jump onto my arm, climb my sleeve, and perch on my shoulder before I can even stop them. I'm so glad my fish don't deprive me of sleep.

 

[FinalFins]

Great...
I missed it because they took it down.
They must be watching us!

Wondering why the was taken down ?

 

[Feohw]

Wondering why the was taken down ?

You can't add s that aren't your own, so other peoples pictures, pictures of other sites etc. You can add a link to the site as long as it isn't a link to a competing website ie. other fish forums. As the was from amazon (or ebay?), a link would be alright, but adding a screenshot of it isn't allowed.

 

[jake37]

The one thing that really annoys me is my hiding clown loaches. They are close to the largest thing in the tank but the only thing that runs and hide whenever I walk across the room. I had 4 and got a 5th. The 5th was actually out going schooling with the gold zebra; a week later the big one knocked it on the head and taught it to hide when I walk across the room so now it schools with the zebra when i'm sitting still and then the minute I get up it runs and hides with the rest. Right now 4 of them are nibbling on a piece of zuc. The minute I get up to get a drink of water they will run and hide (the 5th one - almost always hide - where as the other four will come out when they want something - esp at dinner time).

 

[Crispii]

Merry Christmas all my fellow friends and Fishlorians!