310 gallon build and 55 gallon quarantine tank - Page 2

FisHobbyist

Updated hardscape with just the DW
 

waterpat

That looks great. I like it better w/o the stone.

Why the egg crate? Your glass can handle the wood just fine. Or is there another reason?

What's your plan for substrate?
 

Perlumia

Really beautiful. My dad made me a stand for my 10-gallon quarantine tank, including a cover to keep the cats from disrupting the HOBs/cat water fountains. They would push them off-kilter and drain the tank onto the floor...
 

A201

The tank looks awsome. Be sure to look at Dawkinsia Barbs (Mascara & Filamentosa). Those Barbs grow to five or six inches, are very colorful & not very common.
The "Altus" Red Tail Tinfoil Barb is another cool fish. They grow to about eight Inches. Much smaller than the standard Tinfoil. Both species come from the same waters as Clown Loaches & would look great together.
I'm currently growing out a large group of Filamentosa & a couple of Altus Tinfoils. Looking forward to upgrading their tank.
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SouthAmericanCichlids

Do you have any other ideas on what you are going to be getting? Do you think this is going to be like a community tank, or like monster fish, like Oscars/Severum?
 

GeorgeDaGreat

Have thought about using an assortment of smooth rocks and pebbles around the base of the wood. I find it gives a nice natural river look and also provide loads of hiding places for bottom dwellers. other than that the driftwood hardscape looks awesome. definitely looking forward to seeing the finished product, although they're never really finished.
 

SnookusFish

Looks so good. I'm just commenting so I get notifications but some other cool fish that are from the same place as the clown loaches would be bosemani rainbows and there are a lot of gourami from there too which would look great in a big group. Also a massive group of colourful medaka would look insane and are also from that part of the world.
 

AverageAquarist22

Nice! I'm also commenting so I’ll get notifications . Can’t wait to see the 310 stocked- it’ll look so cool!
 

jmaldo

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Good Luck!
 

FisHobbyist

Looking great!
Thanks!!
The tank looks awsome. Be sure to look at Dawkinsia Barbs (Mascara & Filamentosa). Those Barbs grow to five or six inches, are very colorful & not very common.
The "Altus" Red Tail Tinfoil Barb is another cool fish. They grow to about eight Inches. Much smaller than the standard Tinfoil. Both species come from the same waters as Clown Loaches & would look great together.
I'm currently growing out a large group of Filamentosa & a couple of Altus Tinfoils. Looking forward to upgrading their tank.
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Awesome! great suggestions. And what are you thinking of upgrading to?
Do you have any other ideas on what you are going to be getting? Do you think this is going to be like a community tank, or like monster fish, like Oscars/Severum?
Great question. I have gone back and forth and love the idea of both. Although I'm not going for a monster fish tank look, I know these clown loaches will eventually get big. I enjoy scaping the tank but that can take up space which can make larger fish feel restricted...ever seen a large fish freak out? haha. So possibly a semi-aggressive tank that could coexist with some large community fish.
Have thought about using an assortment of smooth rocks and pebbles around the base of the wood. I find it gives a nice natural river look and also provide loads of hiding places for bottom dwellers. other than that the driftwood hardscape looks awesome. definitely looking forward to seeing the finished product, although they're never really finished.
Agreed and yes I have. I am on the look out for some midground rocks to add to the scape. Currently I just have the mix of different sizes of dragon stone but i'm trying to limit it as they have sharper edges...
 

A201

They're all still juveniles & are in a 65 gal. tank. I'll need to move them into a 120 - 150 gal. tank by summertime.
Both species are tight schoolers & will look their best in a tank of at least five to six foot.
 

FisHobbyist

That looks great. I like it better w/o the stone.

Why the egg crate? Your glass can handle the wood just fine. Or is there another reason?

What's your plan for substrate?
The egg crate is for when I add large stones/rocks. I have this fear that I'll drop one and it'll be all over. So mostly peace of mind but I also like to cut some and stack together so I can place pieces higher if needed...then they won't eventually sink down into my substrate. As far as substrate I have 200lbs of Eco Complete currenlty that I plan to place in the background hidden behind rocks for future planting and sand in the foreground with varying sizes of pebbles to transistion.
Really beautiful. My dad made me a stand for my 10-gallon quarantine tank, including a cover to keep the cats from disrupting the HOBs/cat water fountains. They would push them off-kilter and drain the tank onto the floor...
I guess if you have a tank drain, it's good than it's only 10 gallons of water but even that is a lot to clean up
Looks so good. I'm just commenting so I get notifications but some other cool fish that are from the same place as the clown loaches would be bosemani rainbows and there are a lot of gourami from there too which would look great in a big group. Also a massive group of colourful medaka would look insane and are also from that part of the world.
I love those rainbows and have been on the lookout for some locally. I think they look great in planted tanks
They're all still juveniles & are in a 65 gal. tank. I'll need to move them into a 120 - 150 gal. tank by summertime.
Both species are tight schoolers & will look their best in a tank of at least five to six foot.
Awesome. I'll be on the lookout for those as I start to build my stocking list. Did you get yours locally or online?
 

jake37

If I'm not mistaken that tank is 30 inches tall - how do you reach the bottom? Also what are you going to use for lighting ?
 

A201

I ordered the Filament Barbs through my local fish store. No shipping cost that way.
Baby Filaments usually cost about $5
a piece. Adults $15 - $25.
Altus Red Tail Tinfoils are fairly common. $3 - $4. Make sure to get the Altus Red Tails. The Standard Tinfoils get huge, even for your tank.
 

FisHobbyist

If I'm not mistaken that tank is 30 inches tall - how do you reach the bottom? Also what are you going to use for lighting ?
Haha yeah almost (25”). I have a step stool and I’ll get the extra long python siphons...I think there’s a 3 foot one so I don’t have to dip my whole arm into the tank but I can reach the bottom if I need to. For lighting I just have four 48” classic LEDs. They’re super affordable and will do for now with the low light plants I’ll have in it. Eventually I’ll upgrade.
I ordered the Filament Barbs through my local fish store. No shipping cost that way.
Baby Filaments usually cost about $5
a piece. Adults $15 - $25.
Altus Red Tail Tinfoils are fairly common. $3 - $4. Make sure to get the Altus Red Tails. The Standard Tinfoils get huge, even for your tank.
Yeah I’ve seen those things. It’s like buying a pacu...
 

hpt84

I remember carrying a 125g with just two people. I can't imagine how heavy the 310g would be. Those are beautiful pieces of wood. You got them locally or from an online vendor?
 

AcornTheBetta

I remember carrying a 125g with just two people. I can't imagine how heavy the 310g would be. Those are beautiful pieces of wood. You got them locally or from an online vendor?
You would need like 5 people to carry a 310g.
 

FisHobbyist

I remember carrying a 125g with just two people. I can't imagine how heavy the 310g would be. Those are beautiful pieces of wood. You got them locally or from an online vendor?
They weren’t easy to find. One I have had from my previous 140 gallon from about 4 years ago. I’ve hung onto it since then. The other pieces I acquired from a guy I found on marketplace in Illinois. I made a trip out of it and picked it up.
And the tank I think weighs 500-600 lbs. it wasn’t light. Fortunately we had some dollies and the scissor lift for help
You would need like 5 people to carry a 310g.
For sure. We made it work with three but that’s only because we had the equipment to get it to where it needed to be and only had to lift it up so far and slide it onto the stand.
 

FisHobbyist

So there were a couple things to take care of before filling the aquarium. I had a truss engineer check the flooring and we ended up putting some extra support below the front end of the aquarium.

Plumbing...well I hate plumbing and there are some things I’d do differently but this is how it turned out and fortunately the places I did put unions, I’m thankful for. I drew it out so many times but when it came to putting it together, I changed things around and...well it’s working and there’s no leaks so I’ll stick to it because I’m ready to get the nitrogen cycle going. Don’t judge my unprofessional glued joints. I know it can be cleaner...next build I’ll do better.

Still waiting on filter media to arrive but I grabbed some from the LFS and stitched some fabric together for some quick filter bags to get something going. Just activated carbon and ceramic biomedia in there now but will have some purigen and seachem matrix coming...hoping I can get the tannins reduced sooner than later.

It took two hours to fill lol. Enjoy the updated photos. Oh and I will be planting and rearranging the hardscape/substrate so it looks a little messy. The two large rocks on the right are just weighing the large DW down until it’s waterlogged
 

FisHobbyist

The tank has cleared up a lot in a day with just a couple big bags of activated carbon.

I have decided to cycle the tank with fish. Any suggestions will be appreciated as this is my first time. I am closet monitoring the levels...I don’t know how many fish it will take to put enough ammonia into the system for the bacteria to thrive.

There are a school of 15 small tiger barbs in there now.

I checked the DW on the right to see how buoyant it was and...well it will take months I’m sure for it to sink. I let it rise to the top and kind of like the structure floating for a change.

Added a mix of low light plants but more on the way.I have just half the lights on because I like the shadows that are created vs when all the lighting is on. Let me know your thoughts guys!
 

SouthAmericanCichlids

I let it rise to the top and kind of like the structure floating for a change.
I would weigh the DW down. I have some and it floats, and since I am going to completely escape it soon, I decided to let it float since the scape doesn't look good at all. And it has been there for a month and it still hasn't sunk.
 

kallililly1973

Looks great. The DW will eventually sink that’s what we do when we add new pieces just wait for it to sink n place it where u want afterwards.. that’s awesome y went with some tiger barbs I think you should add about 20-30 more along with some clown loaches.
 

FisHobbyist

I would weigh the DW down. I have some and it floats, and since I am going to completely escape it soon, I decided to let it float since the scape doesn't look good at all. And it has been there for a month and it still hasn't sunk.
Yeah i figured this thing probably won’t get water logged without weight. I had two large rocks sitting on top of it but it got me concerned that if it tipped, the rocks would hit the glass. It floats but doesn’t move at all because it is the width of the tank. I like it floating for now...we will see.
Looks great. The DW will eventually sink that’s what we do when we add new pieces just wait for it to sink n place it where u want afterwards.. that’s awesome y went with some tiger barbs I think you should add about 20-30 more along with some clown loaches.
Haha the school looks great. Do you have clown loaches? Any live plants? The more I read into it, I’ve heard they can punch holes in plants when they’re bigger, even Anubias. My plan was to have primarily clowns in this tank but I also looked forward to scaping it with live plants...mostly epiphytes and some crypts
 

kallililly1973

We don’t have clown loaches I just remember seeing a video of 800 gallon tank full of tigers and loaches.. I didn’t know they ate live plants. We have 10 tigers in a heavily planted 29 and they don’t touch the plants.
 

FisHobbyist

We don’t have clown loaches I just remember seeing a video of 800 gallon tank full of tigers and loaches.. I didn’t know they ate live plants. We have 10 tigers in a heavily planted 29 and they don’t touch the plants.
Yeah i think they said when they are around 6 inches is when they noticed them doing that. They don't eat the plants but like to punch wholes in them. What stock do you have that gets along with your tiger barbs?
 

coralbandit

The clowns are snail eaters so often while most see them decimating their plants the clowns are really eating snail eggs and such that are on the plant ! My clowns let me have plants for many years ..They then decide they like plants ? They will now eat zucchini if I offer it !
I would rather have my clowns then any plant ! Some of my clowns are over 20 years old ..GREAT FISH for the right sized tank .Yours is plenty good for clown loaches ..
I also like floating wood and have some pieces in my 180 that span across the surface after coming up from bottom ..They did not get installed how I saw them in the store when I bough them but I like them better with fish swimming under and through them ..
They make nice shadows ...
 

FisHobbyist

The clowns are snail eaters so often while most see them decimating their plants the clowns are really eating snail eggs and such that are on the plant ! My clowns let me have plants for many years ..They then decide they like plants ? They will now eat zucchini if I offer it !
I would rather have my clowns then any plant ! Some of my clowns are over 20 years old ..GREAT FISH for the right sized tank .Yours is plenty good for clown loaches ..
I also like floating wood and have some pieces in my 180 that span across the surface after coming up from bottom ..They did not get installed how I saw them in the store when I bough them but I like them better with fish swimming under and through them ..
They make nice shadows ...
Thanks for sharing that. Any live plants that have survived? I’d imagine your clowns are a good 10-12 inches now...I’m curious, what size were they when you noticed them taking apart the plants? Maybe I can enjoy the plants for a little bit before they grow up
 

kallililly1973

Yeah i think they said when they are around 6 inches is when they noticed them doing that. They don't eat the plants but like to punch wholes in them. What stock do you have that gets along with your tiger barbs?
We have the 10 TB's 5 albino corys an Albino BN pleco and a couple of guppies and everyone gets along well.
 

jake37

Mine are only 1.5 years old and sometime they don't like where i put a new plant and promptly shred it but mostly they leave the plants alone. They saw the pleco eating zuc one day and now they go strait for the zuc as soon as it touches the water. They also are livid for soilent green.

The clowns are snail eaters so often while most see them decimating their plants the clowns are really eating snail eggs and such that are on the plant ! My clowns let me have plants for many years ..They then decide they like plants ? They will now eat zucchini if I offer it !
I would rather have my clowns then any plant ! Some of my clowns are over 20 years old ..GREAT FISH for the right sized tank .Yours is plenty good for clown loaches ..
I also like floating wood and have some pieces in my 180 that span across the surface after coming up from bottom ..They did not get installed how I saw them in the store when I bough them but I like them better with fish swimming under and through them ..
They make nice shadows ...
 

coralbandit

None of my guys are over 8 inches by my guess and have never been in less then a 6 foot tank since I have owned them .Some just grow slow or not as large as others ?They had to be 10 years me before the plants became fake ..
 

FisHobbyist

I added around 40ish live plants from MarcusFishTanks. Mostly epiphtyes, some crypts and swords. I’m on the fence about going with loaches in the 310 now due to the thought of the plants eventually getting destroyed.

My thoughts are to start up the 90 gallon and making that a loach/barb tank. Maybe in the future I’ll eventually bring the loaches into the 310...but for now here’s a couple updated photos of the 310. I’ve have a few large Amazon swords coming that will be planted in the corners.
 

jake37

I have clown, zebra and yoyo in my 120 and so far for the most part plants have not been disturbed. The tank is now 18 months old. I've been told that as the clown get old they will become harsher on plants but at this stage all is good. They do swim quite a bit at night mostly glass surfing so plants (esp in the corners) will need to be sturdy to take some disturbance - i have a large anubia in one spot that is too rigid for them to do a lot of harm but newly plants always get disturbed in those locations - in the middle most things never get disturbed. It remains to be seen what happens going forward. As of now my plans are to move in 14-15 months and the 120 will be replaced with an 8x3x2 tank (?360?) - at that point i will move my stocking as it exist - add a few more loaches to increase the school sizes and change the substrate (this tank also has angels, cardinals, sterbai, few l204 and anything that got kicked out of the smaller tanks). So basically the gallons will triple and the population will go up 30% - i'll probably move the cardinals into a ram tank and put a larger tetra in with the angels - though my cardinals - some being over 30 months old - have gotten some size on them.
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Anyway certainly the smaller loaches like zebra aren't going to muck with the plants they will greatly appreciate some dense jungle val to play in - and while my clowns have so far behaved i'm told it might not always be the case. The yoyo haven't touched the plants but i only have one i consider solid adult (the other adults jumped and the rest are younger). Btw you would need some kind of top that covers back to front (screening works) if you go with loaches - i know someone htat had a 20 year old clown jump.... the owner was not pleased.

I added around 40ish live plants from MarcusFishTanks. Mostly epiphtyes, some crypts and swords. I’m on the fence about going with loaches in the 310 now due to the thought of the plants eventually getting destroyed.

My thoughts are to start up the 90 gallon and making that a loach/barb tank. Maybe in the future I’ll eventually bring the loaches into the 310...but for now here’s a couple updated photos of the 310. I’ve have a few large Amazon swords coming that will be planted in the corners.
 

86 ssinit

I have a planted 90 with 2 6” 6yr old clowns and they’ve never bothered the plants.
Tank looks great! Nice driftwood!! I’m still saying discus .
 

SouthAmericanCichlids

If you don't want loaches. and barbs. My vote is angels or discus. And then a ton of rams.
 

jake37

My vote is they should get the fishes they want and they should run the tank at the temp that is optimal for his chosen plants and fishes


If you don't want loaches. and barbs. My vote is angels or discus. And then a ton of rams.
 

LHAquatics

I added around 40ish live plants from MarcusFishTanks. Mostly epiphtyes, some crypts and swords. I’m on the fence about going with loaches in the 310 now due to the thought of the plants eventually getting destroyed.

My thoughts are to start up the 90 gallon and making that a loach/barb tank. Maybe in the future I’ll eventually bring the loaches into the 310...but for now here’s a couple updated photos of the 310. I’ve have a few large Amazon swords coming that will be planted in the corners.
WOW *speechless*
 

FisHobbyist

I have clown, zebra and yoyo in my 120 and so far for the most part plants have not been disturbed. The tank is now 18 months old. I've been told that as the clown get old they will become harsher on plants but at this stage all is good. They do swim quite a bit at night mostly glass surfing so plants (esp in the corners) will need to be sturdy to take some disturbance - i have a large anubia in one spot that is too rigid for them to do a lot of harm but newly plants always get disturbed in those locations - in the middle most things never get disturbed. It remains to be seen what happens going forward. As of now my plans are to move in 14-15 months and the 120 will be replaced with an 8x3x2 tank (?360?) - at that point i will move my stocking as it exist - add a few more loaches to increase the school sizes and change the substrate (this tank also has angels, cardinals, sterbai, few l204 and anything that got kicked out of the smaller tanks). So basically the gallons will triple and the population will go up 30% - i'll probably move the cardinals into a ram tank and put a larger tetra in with the angels - though my cardinals - some being over 30 months old - have gotten some size on them.
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Anyway certainly the smaller loaches like zebra aren't going to muck with the plants they will greatly appreciate some dense jungle val to play in - and while my clowns have so far behaved i'm told it might not always be the case. The yoyo haven't touched the plants but i only have one i consider solid adult (the other adults jumped and the rest are younger). Btw you would need some kind of top that covers back to front (screening works) if you go with loaches - i know someone htat had a 20 year old clown jump.... the owner was not pleased.
That will be one nice upgrade! I thought about going with that size but I didn’t want it to stick too far out into the room where I currently live. 8x3 feet is quite the footprint. Have you looked into where you will order from? I know PlanetAquariums also makes that size where I ordered mine.
I know eventually that he loaches may mess with my plants but I also know if I get them small, I can probably enjoy both for awhile. I’ll let these plants take root and we will see. Thanks for sharing your experience. I want to be persuaded into keeping my original plan which is a loach tank.
I have a planted 90 with 2 6” 6yr old clowns and they’ve never bothered the plants.
Tank looks great! Nice driftwood!! I’m still saying discus .
Hey I hear loaches and discus do just fine together. Any photos of your 90 gal set up? I bet those loaches are awesome. I feel like some how I’ll end up with both species but in what tanks, I don’t know
If you don't want loaches. and barbs. My vote is angels or discus. And then a ton of rams.
I want loaches for sure but I’m torn which tank they will end up in. By the time this tank is completely cycled I’m hoping I’ll find my way
I think a group angels would look great. Angels Plus has some beauties Angels Plus - Professional fish hatchery and vital supplies. . Also Mike's Green Bulgarian https://m.facebook.com/MikesBulgarianGreen/ has some nice looking angels. I plan to visit them both this summer.
I appreciate your advice. Not that I don’t like angels, but I want to go either discus or loaches for this set up
 

jake37

I thought PlanetAquariums did not sell to end users but perhaps i was thinking of someone else or that has changed - i can check them. My thought was to get a quote from reefsavvy ($$$$) and customaquariums ($). The likely results would be customaquariums which has a good reputation but i can double check planetaquariums. I know customaquariums do sump the sane way by having a series of cheap containers rather than have an expensive tank with dividers as most folks do them. I'm actually going with 4 tanks but the one above is the largest - the others will also be 3 feet deep but not nearly as tall or long. The other 3 will be rams, apistogramma and livebearers (though I throw apisto into the live-bearer tank to keep folks in shape and reduce the rate of frys - but to be honest they are lousy hunters). The ram tank will be mostly rams with a few pleco and the apisto tank i will take of one of two routes a bit undecided - depends a bit of specific species.

Do you have an opinion on PlanetAquariums and the tank quality? I know customaquariums claim a life time warranty but i always question of the value of these warranty since most of the cost is water damage.

That will be one nice upgrade! I thought about going with that size but I didn’t want it to stick too far out into the room where I currently live. 8x3 feet is quite the footprint. Have you looked into where you will order from? I know PlanetAquariums also makes that size where I ordered mine.
I know eventually that he loaches may mess with my plants but I also know if I get them small, I can probably enjoy both for awhile. I’ll let these plants take root and we will see. Thanks for sharing your experience. I want to be persuaded into keeping my original plan which is a loach tank.
 

86 ssinit

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jake37

I have the same problem - i have 5 clowns in the 120 but they don't like sleeping in a group. 2 of them sleep together in one spot and 2 more in another and the 5th never liked the other 4


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Toothy

I kinda like the customaquariums sump system. Made of HDPE which is super strong and pretty hard to break. I prefer it to a glass sump. I have a quote from them on a new tank. Haven't pulled the trigger yet.
That will be one nice upgrade! I thought about going with that size but I didn’t want it to stick too far out into the room where I currently live. 8x3 feet is quite the footprint. Have you looked into where you will order from? I know PlanetAquariums also makes that size where I ordered mine.
I know eventually that he loaches may mess with my plants but I also know if I get them small, I can probably enjoy both for awhile. I’ll let these plants take root and we will see. Thanks for sharing your experience. I want to be persuaded into keeping my original plan which is a loach tank.

Hey I hear loaches and discus do just fine together. Any photos of your 90 gal set up? I bet those loaches are awesome. I feel like some how I’ll end up with both species but in what tanks, I don’t know

I want loaches for sure but I’m torn which tank they will end up in. By the time this tank is completely cycled I’m hoping I’ll find my way

I appreciate your advice. Not that I don’t like angels, but I want to go either discus or loaches for this set up
It's a killer tank so you have a lot of options that I'm sure will look great whatever you decide.
 

FisHobbyist

I thought PlanetAquariums did not sell to end users but perhaps i was thinking of someone else or that has changed - i can check them. My thought was to get a quote from reefsavvy ($$$$) and customaquariums ($). The likely results would be customaquariums which has a good reputation but i can double check planetaquariums. I know customaquariums do sump the sane way by having a series of cheap containers rather than have an expensive tank with dividers as most folks do them. I'm actually going with 4 tanks but the one above is the largest - the others will also be 3 feet deep but not nearly as tall or long. The other 3 will be rams, apistogramma and livebearers (though I throw apisto into the live-bearer tank to keep folks in shape and reduce the rate of frys - but to be honest they are lousy hunters). The ram tank will be mostly rams with a few pleco and the apisto tank i will take of one of two routes a bit undecided - depends a bit of specific species.

Do you have an opinion on PlanetAquariums and the tank quality? I know customaquariums claim a life time warranty but i always question of the value of these warranty since most of the cost is water damage.
So I ordered my aquarium through my LFS but I looked up on planets website which stores near me that were able to do that. It’s nice because you don’t pay for shipping but you’ll have to go pick it up yourself. I know they make a tank in the dimensions that you mentioned and it’s not considered a custom size so you’d probably get a better deal there. They also have the crystalline front glass that is a low iron glass and is clearer/doesn’t have that yellow tinge to the glass. As for the quality, well I can’t attest to that just yet other than I was disappointed to find out one of the braces wasn’t square with the tank. I found that out because one of my glass tops didn’t fit so I checked the dimensions. Planet is looking into this but they are pretty slow at resolving it. You have to communicate everything through the LFS which is a pain. It’s unfortunate but it wasn’t super expensive for what you get and it’s serving it’s purpose...we ll see how it holds up. I’ve only had it for about a month so I can’t say for sure about the quality of it. As for warranties, you’re right. If the thing comes crashing down on you, the last of your worries will be the cost of replacing the tank. A tank that size will cost more damage that you can imagine and you may never trust a tank again or maybe not even worry about getting a tank for awhile since you’ll be left with the damages to repair first. I would look into a good insurance policy before putting it up if you’re really concerned...not for the tank but for the damages to your home. Sounds like you got a lot planned though. Pretty exciting stuff!
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Haha that’s awesome! First time I had clown loaches way back, that got me concerned when they laid on their side.
I have the same problem - i have 5 clowns in the 120 but they don't like sleeping in a group. 2 of them sleep together in one spot and 2 more in another and the 5th never liked the other 4
That’s such a bummer. They’re awesome when they school around
 

jake37

I already checked last year and there is no store near me that deals with planetaquarium. There is one guy (one man business) that is listed as their oem in my area but he only does saltwater and only orders the tanks as part of a larger setup deal (i.e, i can't just call him up to order the tank).

Are you concern that the off brace might reduce the integrity of the tank ?

The room i'm putting the tank has tile instead of wood and is above a crawlspace so a drain is added below the tile in hope that if a tank does break it will drain the water basically into the ground to contain the damage. The rest of the house has hardwood floor and while solid as oppose to engineered i would still rather it not end up flooded in water. We shall see how it works out. When I was up north i had a 40B (aqueon) split on the bottom and while only about 5 gallons actually hit the floor it still did massive ($$$$) damage. To be honest now in 18 months i've had two aqueon tanks failed on me so either i'm quite unlucky or they are not well made.
(the 2nd was a 29 and after a year water started leaking from the seams).

So I ordered my aquarium through my LFS but I looked up on planets website which stores near me that were able to do that. It’s nice because you don’t pay for shipping but you’ll have to go pick it up yourself. I know they make a tank in the dimensions that you mentioned and it’s not considered a custom size so you’d probably get a better deal there. They also have the crystalline front glass that is a low iron glass and is clearer/doesn’t have that yellow tinge to the glass. As for the quality, well I can’t attest to that just yet other than I was disappointed to find out one of the braces wasn’t square with the tank. I found that out because one of my glass tops didn’t fit so I checked the dimensions. Planet is looking into this but they are pretty slow at resolving it. You have to communicate everything through the LFS which is a pain. It’s unfortunate but it wasn’t super expensive for what you get and it’s serving it’s purpose...we ll see how it holds up. I’ve only had it for about a month so I can’t say for sure about the quality of it. As for warranties, you’re right. If the thing comes crashing down on you, the last of your worries will be the cost of replacing the tank. A tank that size will cost more damage that you can imagine and you may never trust a tank again or maybe not even worry about getting a tank for awhile since you’ll be left with the damages to repair first. I would look into a good insurance policy before putting it up if you’re really concerned...not for the tank but for the damages to your home. Sounds like you got a lot planned though. Pretty exciting stuff!
 

FisHobbyist

I already checked last year and there is no store near me that deals with planetaquarium. There is one guy (one man business) that is listed as their oem in my area but he only does saltwater and only orders the tanks as part of a larger setup deal (i.e, i can't just call him up to order the tank).

Are you concern that the off brace might reduce the integrity of the tank ?

The room i'm putting the tank has tile instead of wood and is above a crawlspace so a drain is added below the tile in hope that if a tank does break it will drain the water basically into the ground to contain the damage. The rest of the house has hardwood floor and while solid as oppose to engineered i would still rather it not end up flooded in water. We shall see how it works out. When I was up north i had a 40B (aqueon) split on the bottom and while only about 5 gallons actually hit the floor it still did massive ($$$$) damage. To be honest now in 18 months i've had two aqueon tanks failed on me so either i'm quite unlucky or they are not well made.
(the 2nd was a 29 and after a year water started leaking from the seams).
I don’t think you’re just unlucky. I have heard of aqueon tanks busting on people. Hopefully they found out the problem and have changed the way they design their tanks.

Honestly, I am not sure what to think. It hasnt stopped me from filling it up and they didn’t seem too concerned after knowing that my measurements were off ‍♂️ that is if the LFS actually forwarded the details to them. We’ll see when I hear back.

If you have a set up where you have a drain and can’t cause any damage if the tank busts, then I guess just having a warranty on the tank would be nice. I had my floors looked at by a truss engineer and had it supported and my stand design looked through by another engineer. If the tank comes down it’ll be all due to the tank itself leaking...or maybe a terrible plumbing disaster. So many bad things that can happen lol. Better check on my home insurance again
 

Kjelli

Honestly im loving this thread and would love to know how the tank turns out with the loaches and barbs you already have
 

FisHobbyist

Honestly im loving this thread and would love to know how the tank turns out with the loaches and barbs you already have
Thanks! Will try to post some updates once the plants grow in a little
 

FisHobbyist

Okay guys, big update!! I went to the fish swap here in Davenport, Iowa, yesterday. I went in search of discus and clown loaches. Even though we got there right when it opened, we missed out on the clown loaches BUT we found some great discus and that steered my decision to go with a discus aquarium in the 310. The 90 gallon will be my loach tank. I removed all the barbs and semi aggressive fish from the 310 that wouldn't be compatible with the discuss and they are in the basement aquariums until I get the 90 up and running.

We came back with 6 discuss, 16 rummy nose tetras and 13 cardinal tetras. We also came home with 2 golden nugget plecos and 2 panda garras from the swap!!!

I also removed the floating DW and re-scaped the tank. I'd imagine the tannins should be cleared a little after a water change without that large DW in there. Here's some updated photos. I'll try to post some photos when their color returns more...these photos were right after releasing them into their new environment.
Also plan to grab another 6 discus later on once these guys are all settled in...55 gallon will turn into a bare bottom quarantine tank for those like initially planned!!

Ps sorry for the blurry photos of the rummies. They are too quick for me to capture.
 

Jojo205

That’s a gorgeous tank. I love the way discus look, and i loooooooooove rummynose tetras!! they’re just so stinking cute.
 

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