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I can help them 'die off', just send them to me.If the nurii woudl jsut die off i could switch to blackwater and put something interesting in the aquarium
What's the next fish you're getting?
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Would that be Parotocinclus haroldoi?
(Aka Dwarf pleco & Haroldo’s parotocinclus)
There’s no species called P.haroldi - maybe just a typo?
Apparently it was named in honour of Haroldo Palo Jr., an ichthyologist.
They are very small - 4cm? Look attractive - at least the images I found were of a quite dark bodied fish with a few rows of light spots thst set it off nicely.
I’d never heard of this species before but now I find I want some!
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Well i'll take a picture of one when it arrives and then you can decide if it looks like the web-page; actually i'm getting a small group of 4 along with a few zebra otto; of course the zebra otto (Otocinclus cocama) go into the 'cold' aquarium and these guys who like 80ish temp go in the warm aquarium
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The fish arrived today, all seem fine. The pleco is very small, not much bigger than an oto, so I kept it with the small fish for now. It’s definitely bluish with spots and a huge mouth, quite cute, I did manage to get a couple of not very good shots before it disappeared.
Apistogrammas disappeared at first but that soon changed when I put some mosquito larvae in the tank, now they are out and about, not at all shy and even a bit of displaying though they ar3 very small still.
The pencilfish are very nice, and the ruby tetras very tiny but already with quite good colour.
Apistogrammas disappeared at first but that soon changed when I put some mosquito larvae in the tank, now they are out and about, not at all shy and even a bit of displaying though they ar3 very small still.
The pencilfish are very nice, and the ruby tetras very tiny but already with quite good colour.
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A quick update on my new fish. The Apistogrammas have been mainly doing their own thing, foraging amongst the leaf litter with only occasional interactions. But today I looked at the tank and all 6 were together under a branch, all their fins spread, they were just slowly circling one another, no chases, this went on for several minutes then they dispersed again. I’ve not seen this behaviour before.
As for the pleco, I have seen it a total of 4 times (which is quite a lot really in just a few days! Twice it was under a branch and disappeared immediately after I spotted it. The other two times it was on top of a branch, I got quite a good view but it had gone by the time I picked up my phone. It is really very blue and attractive, I hope I end up seeing it more often than the other plecos I have, and maybe one day get a photo!
Here are a few shots of the Apistogramma “meeting”:
As for the pleco, I have seen it a total of 4 times (which is quite a lot really in just a few days! Twice it was under a branch and disappeared immediately after I spotted it. The other two times it was on top of a branch, I got quite a good view but it had gone by the time I picked up my phone. It is really very blue and attractive, I hope I end up seeing it more often than the other plecos I have, and maybe one day get a photo!
Here are a few shots of the Apistogramma “meeting”:
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They are beautiful! Hopefully you’ll see more of the pleco as well. I’ve had a few over the years that enjoyed coming out quite a bit (mostly bristlenose variants). My gold blue eye in the SA community is our daily and is beautiful to see, while my clown pleco I have seen maybe 8-10 times in a year. The new super red I got on Saturday was hanging out by the filter for the first day then disappeared into the rocks.
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The place I recently bought fish from has just published a list of species they will shortly be bringing from Peru and I am definitely tempted by a few of them, namely:
Zebra Otocinclus (Otocinclus cocama)
Otocinclus orange (I have seen various possible names for this...)
Glass tetra (I think this will be Protocheirodon pi, I had a chance to get these on a couple of occasions before but never did for whatever reason).
Rio Amaya pencilfish -I am interested if they are selling both males and females. I had N.mortenthaleri, all were males, they didn't live all that long, about 2 years maybe. and later I nearly got the Amaya (or Cenepa, can't remember) ones but they were all going to be males as well. So will have to see.
Also on the list were Apistogramma Inka (baenschi I think) but I just bought some Apistogrammas and don't have room for more, and spotted angelfish (wild), I guess these are the Rio Nanay variety. Interesting, and I do have space for more angels, but not sure if I want to deal anymore with their not so angelic temperaments. Also that tank would be pretty mixed as it currently has 2 albino manacapurus, an altum, and one wild type striped one - I had more of these but they were way too aggressive.
My final list will depend on the prices as well.
Zebra Otocinclus (Otocinclus cocama)
Otocinclus orange (I have seen various possible names for this...)
Glass tetra (I think this will be Protocheirodon pi, I had a chance to get these on a couple of occasions before but never did for whatever reason).
Rio Amaya pencilfish -I am interested if they are selling both males and females. I had N.mortenthaleri, all were males, they didn't live all that long, about 2 years maybe. and later I nearly got the Amaya (or Cenepa, can't remember) ones but they were all going to be males as well. So will have to see.
Also on the list were Apistogramma Inka (baenschi I think) but I just bought some Apistogrammas and don't have room for more, and spotted angelfish (wild), I guess these are the Rio Nanay variety. Interesting, and I do have space for more angels, but not sure if I want to deal anymore with their not so angelic temperaments. Also that tank would be pretty mixed as it currently has 2 albino manacapurus, an altum, and one wild type striped one - I had more of these but they were way too aggressive.
My final list will depend on the prices as well.
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I recently picked up some zebra oto (I have them in my blackwater aquarium) and other than a weird shaped snout while a novelty item they aren't that special so unless they are cheap i would pass; inka are pretty common but also quasi pair forming so consider that (they are nijjensi group); i personally prefer nijjensi but to be honest there are some really interesting apisto out there and i had hoped in your region you would see them - those species in the iniridae group i find most interesting - i have blutkehl which is pretty similar to lineata and i want d51 but it has never been imported to usa. Anywya there are about 20 or 30 super interesting species and maybe you will get lucky and some of them will show up - i would pass on the inka unless you had a special love for them. The two things i really like about blutkehl is they arent' food beggar but also aren't super skittish and they are pretty passive if you want to keep a large group together.
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Very very little choice in wild Apistogrammas here despite the location, I think probably there is just not enough interest, though you never know what might suddenly turn up. The colourful domestic apistos are slightly more popular, but even these are not that commonly available. Rams are much more available here (domestic and occasionally wild). Anyway I wasn’t planning on more Apistogrammas as I just bought 6 bitaeniata, they are in the 240l (about 64 gallon) tank and I don’t really have space for more, unless perhaps in the 152 gallon angelfish tank, I have 3 quite large Bujurquina in there, but they are quite peaceful and there are loads of plants and cover so I guess some apistos could hold their own.
Anyway more interesting, I wrote to ask if the tetra vidrio. (Glass tetra) are the pi tetras but apparently they are Trochilocharax ornatus, so I will definitely get some of those if they really do arrive.
As for the otos, yeah depends on the price - I would like some but maybe the common ones are just as nice. I have had otos for around 5 years but during this year their numbers have been going down and I think there is only one left now. They are in the angelfish tank, maybe they just got to the end of their lifespan, but just in case the Bujurquinas ate them, though I don t think so, any new ones will go in the smaller tank.
Anyway more interesting, I wrote to ask if the tetra vidrio. (Glass tetra) are the pi tetras but apparently they are Trochilocharax ornatus, so I will definitely get some of those if they really do arrive.
As for the otos, yeah depends on the price - I would like some but maybe the common ones are just as nice. I have had otos for around 5 years but during this year their numbers have been going down and I think there is only one left now. They are in the angelfish tank, maybe they just got to the end of their lifespan, but just in case the Bujurquinas ate them, though I don t think so, any new ones will go in the smaller tank.
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I tried Ottos many years ago and failed miserably. I don't think Ottos do well in very hard water. I haven't seen them available in the local fish stores for at least 20 years.
Oh well, these guys look a lot like Ottos, are much more durable & long lived. A good replacement species.
Oh well, these guys look a lot like Ottos, are much more durable & long lived. A good replacement species.
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I just added another 10 F1 Tropheus Moori Lufubu - Purple Rainbow to my main tank. This should be the final form of the breeding group. I started with 15 Wild, which dwindled down to 5 in 18 months, but luckily the fry from the first few months are old enough now to hang with the larger adults. With the latest addition there are roughly 30 and though it seems a bit chaotic, the aggression is now more uniformly dispersed.
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Picked up a few new fishes - hopefully the last set till next summer (unless wetspot gets pangio myersi in stock):
Probably the most interesting ones are:
Hemigrammus rubrostriatus
(these were really large - much larger than adult black neon or rummy; i only got 12 and it is not clear how they will look - so far not like the pictures which have them more gold though i lighting probably plays a role); they went into the 180 with the b. cupido but i think if they turn out ok i might try them with the geo since it appears the geo are eating the rummynose tetra.
Farlowella vittata these were pretty inexpensive - they didn't have any of the more interesting twigs - they went into the 100 gallon with the winkelfleck.
4 b. wavrini - these guys are the reason i placed the order - if only they had stayed out of stock. I had purchased 6 16 months ago from tangleup - all 6 arrived doa so he resent them at his cost (including free shipping) and all but one arrived doa - he said he was keeping them in blackwater and then putting them in tap water to ship which i think might have been what killed them but he should have been experienced enough to avoid that issue. Anyway so i had one in a 100 by itself and i was thinking of fishing it out and putting it somewhere - maybe with the discus but then these showed up so now he has some friends. I *think* different catch location have different looks but the wavarni i have is a nicer fish than the b. cupido - just a bit more paint on the face and such.
a pair of domestic borelli (I prefer opal but they only had yellow face) - hardly a serious purchase but i put them in the 10 which i hadn't done a lot with in a while - it has some shrimps and norm killi. We'll see what happens with them.
No pictures - probably shoudl have taken some of the twigs but everything else was a bit stressed. Maybe in a few days if the h. rubrostriatus colour up i'll try to get some of them - not sure if they are a fish in motion or more stationary. Everything else had stressed colouring and the borelli were too young to have any colouring. The wavarni were also pretty young about 1/3 adult size so it will be a year or two for them to grow out.
Probably the most interesting ones are:
Hemigrammus rubrostriatus
(these were really large - much larger than adult black neon or rummy; i only got 12 and it is not clear how they will look - so far not like the pictures which have them more gold though i lighting probably plays a role); they went into the 180 with the b. cupido but i think if they turn out ok i might try them with the geo since it appears the geo are eating the rummynose tetra.
Farlowella vittata these were pretty inexpensive - they didn't have any of the more interesting twigs - they went into the 100 gallon with the winkelfleck.
4 b. wavrini - these guys are the reason i placed the order - if only they had stayed out of stock. I had purchased 6 16 months ago from tangleup - all 6 arrived doa so he resent them at his cost (including free shipping) and all but one arrived doa - he said he was keeping them in blackwater and then putting them in tap water to ship which i think might have been what killed them but he should have been experienced enough to avoid that issue. Anyway so i had one in a 100 by itself and i was thinking of fishing it out and putting it somewhere - maybe with the discus but then these showed up so now he has some friends. I *think* different catch location have different looks but the wavarni i have is a nicer fish than the b. cupido - just a bit more paint on the face and such.
a pair of domestic borelli (I prefer opal but they only had yellow face) - hardly a serious purchase but i put them in the 10 which i hadn't done a lot with in a while - it has some shrimps and norm killi. We'll see what happens with them.
No pictures - probably shoudl have taken some of the twigs but everything else was a bit stressed. Maybe in a few days if the h. rubrostriatus colour up i'll try to get some of them - not sure if they are a fish in motion or more stationary. Everything else had stressed colouring and the borelli were too young to have any colouring. The wavarni were also pretty young about 1/3 adult size so it will be a year or two for them to grow out.
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I think you must be Wet Spot's best customer! (assuming that's where you ordered from?)
But yes, an interesting selection of fish, it will be good to see how the wavrini turn out. And the tetras.
I am hoping that my next fish will be some Trochilocharax ornatus (hummingbird tetra) and depending on price I might get some zebra or orange otos. They are due to be ready around the 15th so fingers crossed, I'll probably need to set up the brine shrimp hatchery, though I do also have a supply of mosquito larvae, some of which are very tiny. The last fish I got included some ruby tetras, which were very tiny too, when I feed them with the mosquito larvae despite lots of minute larvae available, the rubies always go for ones that are too big for them and its quite funny watching them trying to eat them. But they do seem to have filled out and grown a bit already.
I might get some new plants as well, I have not bought any for years and the same place has a reasonable selection. I don't have room for more in the tank with the small fish, but my big angelfish tank, which has been densely planted and looking good for nearly 5 years, now looks a bit sad. The reason - my husband borrowed its 2 x 50W lights for filming, and didn't put them back for ages, the tank just had 2 10w floodlights for several months. Well, the java moss did very well and spread and swamped some other plants, the Valisneria, which was always healthy and needing thinning out has died back a lot, though I guess will soon recover, and the pearl weed has disappeared altogether.
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Thinking of adding to my school of Medaka. I was hoping they would breed over the summer but they haven’t. Or they ate all their eggs/offspring.
Also going back and forth about getting another betta since my old man betta passed away. I do miss his little personality.
Also going back and forth about getting another betta since my old man betta passed away. I do miss his little personality.
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It isn't that bad of course these things are relative - most of the fishes i buy are relatively in expensive. I know one person who spent more money on a herd of vulcan cory than i spent the last 7 years on fishes.
I tend to avoid exotic cat fishes and tetra - stuff like the wavarni are only around $13 or $14. Pangio merysi should be around $3 or $4 a fish though with tariffs they might end up being a bit more.
I think the most expensive single fish i have are my wc discus and they were around $60 or so a fish.
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Probably a shorter finned variety like a plakat. Possibly Imbellis but I’m not certain my water parameters would be correct for the wild types…need to do more research. Or I may try a female as I’ve only had males in the past. I’m drawn to the galaxy ones but I don't know.
Medaka are lovely fish.
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I just found out that due to "issues with logistics" I won't be getting those new fish from Peru after all. I thought it was too good to be true Its still a possibility in September apparently, but I'm not holding my breath...was debating whether or not to order the plants as they are from the same place and I was hoping to receive them together with the fish, but I decided to go ahead anyway, and ordered some Myriophyllum "Roraima" and Sagitaria platyphylla. I have not tried either of these before, so fingers crossed...
Its still a possibility in September apparently, but I'm not holding my breath...was debating whether or not to order the plants as they are from the same place and I was hoping to receive them together with the fish, but I decided to go ahead anyway, and ordered some Myriophyllum "Roraima" and Sagitaria platyphylla. I have not tried either of these before, so fingers crossed...- Messages
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I tried to get some decent pictures of the Hemigrammus rubrostriatus but failed miserably:
They aren't bad fishes mine are a bit more gold but in a stronger tannis tank they would be very gold - i did mange to get a couple of pictures of my ~2 year old b. cupido:
who sat there laughing at me.
They aren't bad fishes mine are a bit more gold but in a stronger tannis tank they would be very gold - i did mange to get a couple of pictures of my ~2 year old b. cupido:
who sat there laughing at me.
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another attempt at the h. rubrostriatus:
Not great pictures and i think to the eye they are a little more gold and a little less red. They are a bit more active than cardinals and stay a bit higher but they have a funny swim somewhat similar to some of the smaller rainbows like forktail - i think they are a little head heavy so they go a bit up/down in their gait - really a nice fish. I also noticed (unrelated) on the other side of the room this guy trying to figure out what i was doing:
Not great pictures and i think to the eye they are a little more gold and a little less red. They are a bit more active than cardinals and stay a bit higher but they have a funny swim somewhat similar to some of the smaller rainbows like forktail - i think they are a little head heavy so they go a bit up/down in their gait - really a nice fish. I also noticed (unrelated) on the other side of the room this guy trying to figure out what i was doing:
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I'll be going down to the LFS on the weekend. Hopefully they will have S.A.E's in stock. I had two in a 75G heavily planted tank the past 6 months, and then within a week or two, both jumped. No idea why.
Parameters are fine and all other fish (rummy nose, bosemani rainbows, cory's & Otto's) are fine.
I've heard they can jump occasionally but still it would be good to know if there was some other reason as it seems too much of a co-incidence that they jumped around the same time period after a good period of being in the tank.
Parameters are fine and all other fish (rummy nose, bosemani rainbows, cory's & Otto's) are fine.
I've heard they can jump occasionally but still it would be good to know if there was some other reason as it seems too much of a co-incidence that they jumped around the same time period after a good period of being in the tank.
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I am trying to source more Green Neon Tetras for pickup this weekend, but I am having trouble finding anyone local with them!
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen them locally. We just get the standards and once in a while the black. Maybe one of your LFS could order them for you without the commitment to buy? My local store will let us order and not charge us if we don’t like them when they arrive as he can just sell them to someone else (within reason- he charged me up front for medaka rice fish as the ones I wanted were a little pricy and he hasn’t had much luck selling them in the past).
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That's really nice of your LFS! I know of one shop that will order in for me, but I'm currently avoiding them a bit because they are further away and I got ich last time I got fish from them. Just trying not limit my options! Also that store is a chain and I do prefer to support smaller independent shops when I can.
But good news! I reached out to half a dozen LFSs on Facebook this morning within driving distance and one has come back confirming they have a good stock of Green Neons in at the moment. Everyone else either didn't stock them or didn't currently have them. So I'm going to go down there on Friday when I have the day off. I'm really excited because without knowing it, I seem to have stumbled upon a really impressive independent shop!
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Maybe some gold rams - my itsy bitsy ram i purchased 3 weeks ago have spawned again - i had 4 in a 10 and amazing lack of violence as the last time i had gold rams 3 in a 120 was one 2 many. However it was always my intention to keep the pair and move the other 2 to a 180 which i did. Still i'm perplexed by the lack of violence - bad parenting or maybe because the two that spanwed were smaller than the other two with the female 1/2 the size of the other female. Who knows - i asked them but they just stared at me in confusion and asked for more food.
I also picked up some strange fish (from a store) label cf winemilleri but have no clue of what temperature to keep them so they will join the wild discus for now until i can learn more. They are only around 2 inches not much colour or whatever so no need for pictures. Long term if they are truly like winemilleri they will eventually move to the 500. The biggest problem is to determine a proper temperature range for them.
In less exciting non-new news my larger fishes tore a chunk off the sponge filter and tried to eat it. Makes me rethink if i should have sponge filters in their aquarium - i just saw the flag cichild trying to eat it but not sure who did the tearing. Oh well better the sponge than my fingers.
I also picked up some strange fish (from a store) label cf winemilleri but have no clue of what temperature to keep them so they will join the wild discus for now until i can learn more. They are only around 2 inches not much colour or whatever so no need for pictures. Long term if they are truly like winemilleri they will eventually move to the 500. The biggest problem is to determine a proper temperature range for them.
In less exciting non-new news my larger fishes tore a chunk off the sponge filter and tried to eat it. Makes me rethink if i should have sponge filters in their aquarium - i just saw the flag cichild trying to eat it but not sure who did the tearing. Oh well better the sponge than my fingers.
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Some pictures:
Some pictures of the new geo - for reference they are around 2 inches and this guy did not give them a warm welcome:
He has a lot of pop because he is showing off to the gold i had removed from the 10. I think he has unusual deep colours and i've been thinking about netting him and using him to breed.
Some pictures of the new geo - for reference they are around 2 inches and this guy did not give them a warm welcome:
He has a lot of pop because he is showing off to the gold i had removed from the 10. I think he has unusual deep colours and i've been thinking about netting him and using him to breed.
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It looks like the shipment from Peru that I mentioned earlier is definitely not going to happen, apparently it is much more difficult to bring fish from Peru than from Colombia, it’s not the first time I have been disappointed. But next week they will definitely be getting two more species I have not seen before - peppered Otocinclus and what they call blue/gold glass tetra (Heterocharax virgulatus). I looked up the oto, but it comes from much further south, the Paraná/ La Plata systems, so I guess will need cooler water than I keep my tanks at. I might just get more common otos as after 5 years I seem to have only one left now. The tetras could be interesting though…
"Taking a chance, ordered a Pygmy Centipede Knife Fish from Nu Aqua. Should be here in a day or two. Never ordered from them before, it's for my new 180 gallon."
Well shipment arrived the other day but knife was DOA. I did receive a tiny Blue Neon Goby that's really cool. He's too small [<1"] to see much color but is very active and eating algae off wood, rocks, gravel and anything else he lands on.
Well shipment arrived the other day but knife was DOA. I did receive a tiny Blue Neon Goby that's really cool. He's too small [<1"] to see much color but is very active and eating algae off wood, rocks, gravel and anything else he lands on.
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The last two fishes i picked up seem pretty interesting for different reasons; the pictured hyphessobrycon eylios - they are extremely active (too active?) and aggressive eaters. A few are grey but most are black though I haven't tried to figure out if this is sexual dimorphism, pecking order or natural variation. The other fish are the Parotocinclus haroldoi - i'm not sure i fully trust the information on these but if accurate they make good companions for rams - preferring lower 80's.
Those tetra you mentioned also look interesting though it is not clear to me if they are more clear or blue given the range of pictures. suspect they are on the more clear side of things with a few pictures emphazing the subtle blue line.
The Trochilocharax ornatus are pretty nice but very small and there does seem to be either two colours in my batch or perhaps it is sexual dimorphsm just not sure - they are small but remain active - so i can see where they get their 'humming' bird name as it reflects their behavior mostly. i was mostly feeding them bbs since some of them were super small but now that my a. sp ipiranga spawned again the bbs is going to them. Anyone want to pick up a baby ipiranga
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Been a while but here are a few of the fishes i expect tuesday:
Loricaria simillima - not the exact whiptail i was looking to obtain but hey we can't be too picky
farlowella vittata - have a couple so a couple of more - trying to get mixed sex.
a few pencil fishes and a few tetra - going to redo the 65 and move the d39 into it - The d39 aren't bad looking fishes; as they have out grown their current aquarium.
Loricaria simillima - not the exact whiptail i was looking to obtain but hey we can't be too picky
farlowella vittata - have a couple so a couple of more - trying to get mixed sex.
a few pencil fishes and a few tetra - going to redo the 65 and move the d39 into it - The d39 aren't bad looking fishes; as they have out grown their current aquarium.
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Also been a while. Think I'm going to grab some SAE's. A strange thing in two tanks now, they seem perfectly happy, then after about 6 months they jump. There were two in each tank. This latest one still has one in it but never got round to stocking the first one again. Maybe i should try 3-4 in each tank - both are by average standards very heavily planted, ones a 75G and ones a 7ft 55G.
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A couple of weeks ago i picked up 8 of these little tetra - took a while for them to settle in:
(Axelrodia riesei - they are around the size of ember tetra in length but slimmer body so fairly small). The fish below it is a 6 or 7 month old f1 a. nijjeni. I keep these in blackwater conditions - not sure if they will accliminate to harder water but they are very inexpensive and imho quite lovely.
(Axelrodia riesei - they are around the size of ember tetra in length but slimmer body so fairly small). The fish below it is a 6 or 7 month old f1 a. nijjeni. I keep these in blackwater conditions - not sure if they will accliminate to harder water but they are very inexpensive and imho quite lovely.
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I just bought a big group of juvenile Platinum Green Tiger Barbs and planning to add two more juvenile Mascara Barbs this week.
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