What are you doing to your tank today?

[mulletmcnasty]

Finally got my risers made today ($7 USD) approx.
I'm happy how it's turned out.

 

[newjungletank]

They aren’t too fussy on type but seem to prefer sessile forms - the ones that stick to surfaces, either green or brown. I don’t think they eat red algae or cyanobacteria and free floating forms that aren’t stuck to surfaces are probably more difficult to consume. I know nerite snails have some difficulty eating algae that isn’t sessile.

So what I see in the image looks like it should be right up their alley.

Just curious, how long have you had them? In personal experience, I have found that they’re usually likely to do well enough if it’s been roughly 8 weeks since they were purchased.

Before that time, deaths are sadly common, probably a combo of the stresses they’ve been exposed to & just maybe, also malnutrition that’s gone too far before they are sold.

Stores generally don’t allow algae to grow in their tanks, so these little cuties tend to be forced to get by only on biofilm. This is after having starved for at least a few days or perhaps longer between the time they were harvested & the time they get to a store. In stores it’s extremely common for a number of them to die in the first week they’re there.

Algae has a lot of indigestible cellulose in it, so it’s quite possible these guys rely on a gut biome to break some of that down, as they don’t chew it. They have teeth, quite a few, but they are designed for scraping algae off surfaces rather than chewing.

Their biome may be severely depleted if they’ve been deprived of algae long enough, at least, that’s my thinking on the topic as I don’t believe it’s ever been formally studied.

If that’s the case, could be that the biome takes a little too long to replenish out of their native habitat so they just aren’t getting everything they need out of what they eat.

Or it might just be the effects of stresses involved in being caught, held, packed, shipped, unpacked & then maybe packed & shipped yet again if you buy online.

I let green algae grow on the glass. I do scrape it every couple of weeks on the front and sides, but I don't touch the back. Maybe I have some bad luck. One of them was in the tank for quite a while. The other one has been there for a couple of months or less, perhaps that's the one that died. I can't tell which is which. Thanks for your insight.

 

[tinylostwine]

I added a mystery snail to my 10 (was able to snatch it out of the 500) to eat my remaining duck weed. Lets all cheer him along in his quest.

 

[fishywoo]

Happy fish father's day!

I had to move some furniture around and have a square cabinet I put next to my desk. My first thought was, "a cube tank would fit perfectly right there."

Of course I can't do that, just took a tank down. Aquarium brain though. =)

 

[newjungletank]

I picked up a couple of amano shrimp and some blackworms today.

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Kinda started/ starting a green water tank (I hope this helps kick start, if not I have the leaves still). I need to soak some nettle stalks to "ret" so I can make string with them for no reason at all lol Other than learning of course. On the topic of learning, I think they super glue the bottom to the other glass before silicone. Makes sense, but I am trying to remove the cracked bottom intact and without damaging the sides.

Probably have to break it the rest of the way though

 

[Leeman75]

Got to spend Father's Day as I normally do...driving around the Northwest suburbs of Chicago going from LFS to LFS and seeing what they have. It's the one day a year that I can do that to my heart's desire and my family accompanies me. None of them share my passion for fish, so it is truly a blessing that they love me enough to do what I want to do for the day!

My mission involved finding Yo Yo Loaches to with my solo Yo Yo in my 55. I was successful in getting 3 more, so I have a total of 4 now. I will continue looking some more to add a couple more for a total of 6 hopefully soon!

I also stumbled across a fish that wasn't even on my radar, but I've been struggling to figure out what to fill my now empty 29 gallon and I found just the thing to build the tank around! A LFS had Apistogramma Panduros for only $10!! I snagged a couple of them and am pretty sure it is a pair. It would be amazing to be able to breed them!

For now, they're in the tank and acclimating. I'll hopefully be able to grab some pictures tomorrow morning to share.

 

[mulletmcnasty]

Just coming back from the LFS, $200 later, I'm on the way home.
If anyone is around just now, do you drip acclimatise shrimp? If so, for how long?
Oh, and 3 water changes awaiting me when I get home.

 

[newjungletank]

Just coming back from the LFS, $200 later, I'm on the way home.
If anyone is around just now, do you drip acclimatise shrimp? If so, for how long?
Oh, and 3 water changes awaiting me when I get home.

I think you are supposed to slowly acclimatize them, but I'm sure your past that point now. Hope it worked out.

 

[mulletmcnasty]

I think you are supposed to slowly acclimatize them, but I'm sure your past that point now. Hope it worked out.

I actually decided to drip them, I left it for about an hour.
Thanks for the advice

 

[Fishfur]

Kinda started/ starting a green water tank (I hope this helps kick start, if not I have the leaves still). I need to soak some nettle stalks to "ret" so I can make string with them for no reason at all lol Other than learning of course. On the topic of learning, I think they super glue the bottom to the other glass before silicone. Makes sense, but I am trying to remove the cracked bottom intact and without damaging the sides.

Probably have to break it the rest of the way though

If it was made commercially, there’s won’t have been any superglue used. There would be no point to it - super glue’s superpower is resistance to direct forces but it’s pretty bad at resisting shear forces.

The water pressure exerts shear forces on the joints. So it really wouldn’t be a good idea to use it.

So it’s just a thin layer of silicone in between the panes, but probably a better quality silicone than we are likely to use for repairs or something like a DIY reseal.

There are a few much better silicones for tank building than the stuff you can get in the average store. They cost more but the peace of mind provided by a superior joint is worth it.

If you can slide a razor blade between the panes you may be able to get the bottom off more or less intact but it’s a tedious.process.

You may go through quite a few blades to get all the silicone cut.

One good brand of silicone for building or rebuilding aquariums is 509 ASI Aquarium Silicone Sealant. Definitely more expensive but I think its worth its price.

 

[newjungletank]

If it was made commercially, there’s won’t have been any superglue used. There would be no point to it - super glue’s superpower is resistant to direct forces but it’s pretty bad at resisting shear forces.

The water pressure exerts shear forces on the joints. So it really wouldn’t be a good idea to use it.

So it’s just a thin layer of silicone in between the panes, but probably a better quality silicone than we are likely to use for repairs or something like a DIY reseal.

There are a few much better silicones for tank building than the stuff you can get in the average store. They cost more but the peace of mind provided by a superior joint is worth it.

If you can slide a razor blade between the panes you may be able to get the bottom off more or less intact but it’s a tedious.process.

You may go through quite a few blades to get all the silicone cut.

This video will teach you quite a bit about the repair and building process.

 

[BPSabelhaus]

If it was made commercially, there’s won’t have been any superglue used. There would be no point to it - super glue’s superpower is resistance to direct forces but it’s pretty bad at resisting shear forces.

The water pressure exerts shear forces on the joints. So it really wouldn’t be a good idea to use it.

So it’s just a thin layer of silicone in between the panes, but probably a better quality silicone than we are likely to use for repairs or something like a DIY reseal.

There are a few much better silicones for tank building than the stuff you can get in the average store. They cost more but the peace of mind provided by a superior joint is worth it.

If you can slide a razor blade between the panes you may be able to get the bottom off more or less intact but it’s a tedious.process.

You may go through quite a few blades to get all the silicone cut.

One good brand of silicone for building or rebuilding aquariums is 509 ASI Aquarium Silicone Sealant. Definitely more expensive but I think its worth its price.

I wasn't thinking structural, more like something to keep everything exactly in place while the silicone is being applied/ drying. Would make sense to do a little glue on the bottom to make sure things don't wiggle. Even in a jig a little wiggle room can create sealing issues later.
Probably doing a few at a time too

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Taped the bottom up then went to work with a 2x4 and rubber mallet working it loose. Didn't break the sides, so now it's on to making a frame.
Going to use this c-channel to create the attachment point. One down and one up then silicone the new frame to the glass. There will be a gap on the inside, but that's just more space for plants to grow lol
Went in the yard for a little break by the ponds, saw this wee one hopping through the dry grass. So I picked it up and moved it to the "mountaintop" (by scale lol) pond protected by the ceramic lion cat thing lol

 

[Fishadict512]

Got a new tank! It's a 55 gallon bought from wallmart. Not the greatest quality, but it was only $50…

 

[Leeman75]

Got to see the new fish in the tanks. The Yo Yos are lounging around. One is hiding but the other 2 new ones are just laying around mostly. The one I've had is crazy all over the tank. I can't wait until the new ones get active like that.


The Apistos are doing really well. They have really nice colors! I'm so glad I got them!!

 

[mulletmcnasty]

Going to a different LFS today to get more shrimp but from a different source. I hope this is a good strategy to keep them healthy?
I wonder how much I'll spend today, too much no doubt if you ask a certain person who lives with me.

 

[SteelersChris]

Upgraded South American Community from a 55 to a 75 and picked up some plastic plants from the crafts store since the Severum likes to eat live ones.

Then took the 55 and set it up to hold my juvenile firemouths, Jack Dempsey, convict and Texas cichlid for a week or two until I set up their 125g. Picked up some driftwood from the beach, rocks and a few more craft stores plants for their tank. So far I’m happy with the way they’re coming together.

 

[Fishfur]

I wasn't thinking structural, more like something to keep everything exactly in place while the silicone is being applied/ drying. Would make sense to do a little glue on the bottom to make sure things don't wiggle. Even in a jig a little wiggle room can create sealing issues later.
Probably doing a few at a time too

Glass being siliconed together should be spotlessly clean without anything on it including superglue.

I have a couple of tricks I’ve used to help me build an aquarium or replace a pane.

A simple wooden angle built from scraps of plywood or maybe 2x4’s that’s perfectly square can provide support to a corner or else build a frame that’s just the size necessary so it will hold all four sides at once in their assembled configuration with no wiggle room.

Good masking tape is possibly the best helper. It will temporarily hold pieces in place & can be used to support them while the silicone cures.

It also provides a way to get very clean lines for inner beads of sealant if you choose to do an inner seal.

Just put straight strips of tape on the inside of each corner on both sides, leaving the width you want for the bead bare & as soon as the bead is applied & smoothed into place, carefully pull off that tape - before the silicone has a chance to start skinning over.

Masking tape can be used to do a test assembly as well to make sure panes are the right size & all fit neatly as they should, before you start applying sealant.

 

[Sewerrat]

Lost the rubber lip during quarantine. Picked up a new filter. my bristlenose has decided it's fun to go inside the internal filter

Wife discovered Adfs like betta hammocks

 

[Leeman75]

Have been looking for the new Yo Yo Loaches. Worried about maybe having lost all 3 already. And then I saw this...

 

[Fishfur]

Have been looking for the new Yo Yo Loaches. Worried about maybe having lost all 3 already. And then I saw this...

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A loach hotel!

 

[newjungletank]

My batch of juvenile a. borelli are starting to establish a pecking order. I'm seeing some of the males lip locking and even what I assume are females are getting territorial.

The first two pictures are animated gifs, click to see the action.




I need to move them to a larger tank or get them sold soon.

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Working on the double decker tanko on and off. Cut the pieces for the lower frame. I have notes on my decisions lol I should have left the sides on for some, but whatever the material is cut and I only have so much lol Considering rivets, but we'll see. I might cut new lowers then nip the ends off these to use as the uppers. Gonna stop while I'm "winning" and refer to my notes lol Going to start a build thread later with the progress to now. I really want to take another shot at a mangrove tank. This will allow the growth, humidity retention and cat resistance I need lol
Brain is still braining on the lower corners. I think my early mistake cutting one too long was an idea warning lol Longer tabs and bend it around to attach at the sides and reduce downward pressure points without adding rubber bumpers. Genius mistake lol


Still trimming etc to do, but mocked up minus the glass.

 

[Fishadict512]

Got a new tank! It's a 55 gallon bought from wallmart. Not the greatest quality, but it was only $50…

Going to pick up tomorrow! Hopefully it's of decent quality… Will take pictures for y'all!

The lights better be decent for higher intensity plants if not I will have to replace the whole lid. I'm already low on cash

 

[Fishfur]

Going to pick up tomorrow! Hopefully it's of decent quality… Will take pictures for y'all!

The lights better be decent for higher intensity plants if not I will have to replace the whole lid. I'm already low on cash

Might be possible to simply add more lighting under the hood. There are several options that might work if it turns out the existing light is inadequate.

 

[Leeman75]

Going to pick up tomorrow! Hopefully it's of decent quality… Will take pictures for y'all!

The lights better be decent for higher intensity plants if not I will have to replace the whole lid. I'm already low on cash

My son picked up what sounds like the very same tank and package from Walmart a couple of months ago. $50 for the whole setup was such an unbelievable deal! It's been running well since he got it!

 

[Fishadict512]

My son picked up what sounds like the very same tank and package from Walmart a couple of months ago. $50 for the whole setup was such an unbelievable deal! It's been running well since he got it!

how are the lights? Are they at least decent? Anything I kneed to know about this tank?

I will be replacing the filter with a fuval c4. I'm not driving to another state for new cartridges ever other month.

 

[Leeman75]

how are the lights? Are they at least decent? Anything I kneed to know about this tank?

I will be replacing the filter with a fuval c4. I'm not driving to another state for new cartridges ever other month.

The biggest thing, honestly is though the box said 55, my son's by dimensions is a 60 gallon. I was a little jealous to be honest.

It seems to be working well. Kind of what you'd expect. The lights are pretty bright. If I were growing plants, I'd probably attach some additional led to the lid. But at the price he got it, it's definitely worth it!

Im biding my time until he goes to college in 2 years and I can take it over!

 

[Fishadict512]

I GOT IT!!!! I'm so excited!

I haven't taken the tank out of the box yet because I don't want to damage it.

I already hate the filter lid. Super flimsy & loose. Most likely will replace.

The Lids of the tank are a bit loose. Don't exactly fit into the spots

Silicone stuff is VERY messy. I will have to clean up.

The biggest thing, honestly is though the box said 55, my son's by dimensions is a 60 gallon. I was a little jealous to be honest.

It seems to be working well. Kind of what you'd expect. The lights are pretty bright. If I were growing plants, I'd probably attach some additional led to the lid. But at the price he got it, it's definitely worth it!

Im biding my time until he goes to college in 2 years and I can take it over!

Yes, using the dimensions, the tank is calculated to be about a 65-gallon tank!

Could you elaborate on what leds you'd attach to the lid? I want to grow some E. acicularis and Vesicularia sp.

 

[tinylostwine]

I did the water change in my discus aquarium today. They've been acting a bit upset with me the past 2 weeks - they are out and behaving normal but every time i approach the aquarium they retreat and want nothing to do with me. Anyway I had purchased this L183 back in Feb and had seen it once mid march. Well today i didn't actually see the whole fish but when i was cleaning the very back it started 'wagging' its tail and about all i saw was the white line around the tail - but hey at least i know it is still alive ! even if i never see it...

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Moss growing into the pond outlet screen.

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Finally have the rack set up a bit more efficiently for maintenance, viewing etc... Need to get the top level light back on still. But 6 tanks now. 3 5's on top, 3 10's on the bottom. Cories are moved out of the sorority 20 and into a bare bottom 10 setup for breeding. Trying out the weird angled plastic things I got from the angelfish breeder that passed away.
French blue Endlers, blonde guppies and wild type guppies should be easier to cull now. 2 of the 5's have Betta males with one empty for whatever Endler I want to focus on, likely the darker french blue males that have the purple irridescence to a basic blonde female. I want a tank of those.
A few random Endlers ended up in one of the tubs, including a light blue male with a bit of green. Could be interesting to see what comes up in the accidental tub. Mass duckweed removal catches random fish from different tanks.

 

[fishywoo]

Just prematurely added a new background on the 29 g. Aqua teal, like a cyan color. I've needed something to distract myself and prepping this tank for when I'm going to use it again is what I'm obsessing over now (most likely won't be running it for up to several months in the future).
=S

 

[SteelersChris]

The new lights came in for the 75g and 125g tanks but I’m going to have to return them and ordered new ones. They default to the full spectrum white/red/blue/green setting when turned off and and back on and I don’t care for that look. I have them plugged into a timer so whenever it turns off at night the next morning it’s back to the mode I don’t like.

On a positive note, I painted the frame of the 125g a high gloss black to cover up the foe wood look it had going on, and I painted the background a matte black. It’s the second time painting this tank’s background as the first time I did it, I didn’t realize what would have been the front had several surface scratches. I scraped the acrylic paint off with a razor and made the opposite side the back and I’m much happier with it. Put the driftwood back in to soak and weighed it down with buckets of rock and a bag of lava rock. Will start working on sanding and painting the stand tomorrow or during the week. Will aim to have it completely set up in my bedroom either next weekend or the weekend after.

Preparing myself for it to look a little funny for the first several months with just a handful of juvenile CA cichlids that are currently in my old 55g on my bathroom floor (it will also be nice to get this tank packed up and put in the garage; or might get a stand for it and do something African. Multi tank syndrome has hit me hard these past 2 months…. Went from a 55,10, 5.5 and 40 container pond out back and added a 54g corner, 75 and 125 ‍♂️

 

[BPSabelhaus]

Scraped the sorority on both sides and swapped in a smaller piece of driftwood with some java ferns.

 

[SteelersChris]

I completed the stand refinish today for the 125g. Even though it held water on the stand in the garage when I took the tank off it felt a little flimsy for my taste. It was designed well but the boards were held together with Brad nails and staples.

I opted for 6 2x4’s on the front and back, and 3 2x8’s on either side and under the center brace. All were cut to fit tight and had to be dead blow’n into place and them secured with 2” structural screws. Also pulled the top and bottom pieces the tank sits on together with 4” structural screws.

It’s now twice as heavy but I feel a lot more confident putting 125 gallons of water in my bedroom.

I decided to paint the stand a dark brown to match my home cabinetry and added black soft close door hinges and door pulls. I think it’s a big improvement to the original look but I know it’s all personal preference. Looking forward to the paint being fully cured tomorrow and will attempt to set the tank up by myself (might not get the substrate and aquascape completely done but hopefully at least tank and stand will be in my room).

Total project took 5-6 hours and $65 to refinish the tank and stand. Add that to the $100 I got the set for used and I’ll call that a major win over what they charge for a 125g set up these days.

 

[mulletmcnasty]

I completed the stand refinish today for the 125g. Even though it held water on the stand in the garage when I took the tank off it felt a little flimsy for my taste. It was designed well but the boards were held together with Brad nails and staples.

I opted for 6 2x4’s on the front and back, and 3 2x8’s on either side and under the center brace. All were cut to fit tight and had to be dead blow’n into place and them secured with 2” structural screws. Also pulled the top and bottom pieces the tank sits on together with 4” structural screws.

It’s now twice as heavy but I feel a lot more confident putting 125 gallons of water in my bedroom.

I decided to paint the stand a dark brown to match my home cabinetry and added black soft close door hinges and door pulls. I think it’s a big improvement to the original look but I know it’s all personal preference. Looking forward to the paint being fully cured tomorrow and will attempt to set the tank up by myself (might not get the substrate and aquascape completely done but hopefully at least tank and stand will be in my room).

Total project took 5-6 hours and $65 to refinish the tank and stand. Add that to the $100 I got the set for used and I’ll call that a major win over what they charge for a 125g set up these days.

Looking good. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Stand anxiety, that's something I always seem to have in the back of my mind regardless of how stable and long lasting mine have been.

 

[SteelersChris]

Looking good. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Stand anxiety, that's something I always seem to have in the back of my mind regardless of how stable and long lasting mine have been.

Thanks man! Well, patience is a virtue I don’t really have. Got it moved into my bedroom. It’ll be right in front of my sitting chair and under the tv. Have a good view from the bed too. Living room will be the community tanks and I’ll have the big cichlids in here.

The driftwood has been soaking for 2 weeks and still floats so I used some pond expansion foam and attached them to some river rock. Hopefully when it’s dry tomorrow they’ll stay submerged and I can get this scaped and add the little cichlids in here so I can get the 55 off my bathroom floor.

 

[SteelersChris]

Picked up some egg crate and cut to size, scaped the tank and added 4 caves made with rocks, expansion foam and a little hot glue and dirt to hide the joints, added pool filter sand and the fake plants and filled it up. Had to weigh down the driftwood so I used laundry delicates bags with some old gravel that was seeded with BB. Also pulled a today 110 from a running tank with its BB, added prime and stability and should be an instant cycled tank.

Moved over the stock I had in the 55 temporarily and they seem to love it so far and are exploring all the nooks and craneys. The immediately appreciate the sight breaks and extra room and aren’t chasing eachother as they were in the bare holding tank. The two fire mouth seem to want to claim an area to the far left behind a rock and driftwood, the Jack Dempsey the cave just in front of it, and the convict and Texas are still exploring the tank while the pleco is sucking on the glass out in the open. So far VERY happy with how it turned out…. Hopefully I can remove the bags of gravel soon so I can enjoy the view unobstructed and see the fake plants float upright.

 

[Fishadict512]

My stand shiped early! I got it today even though I was supposted to get it next week. Took me about 5 hours to set up as it was only me. Seems sturdy enough, but the paint on the metal is already coming off. I will show pictures tomorrow!

Heading to the lfs tomorrow to see if I can find any cheap supplies. And to look at all the fish…I can't help myself lol.

 

[fishywoo]

Did the 5 and 10 WC yesterday and catching up doing the 40 now.

Can't wait to get the last things I need to complete the 29 gallon "package"
Once I have everything I need to start it again I can rest easy knowing it will all be ready for a restart waiting for me. Then when I open everything up when it's time it'll be like a Christmas present. Lol

MTS madness going on in my 5 Shrimp tank today!

 

[newjungletank]

Last night my wife told me she caught one of my Amano shrimp walking across the hardwood floor probably 6 or more feet from the closest aquarium. She said it was moving when she picked it up, but that it just floated on the top when she put it back. I didn't notice any dead Amano when I checked last night, but I did notice one just chilling on the bottom. I have had them jump out of nets while moving them, but I didn't know they could travel so far out of water. The lid on that particular tank has a gap all the way around and sits on little plastic supports, but the water level is probably 2 inches from the top.

 

[SteelersChris]

Last night my wife told me she caught one of my Amano shrimp walking across the hardwood floor probably 6 or more feet from the closest aquarium. She said it was moving when she picked it up, but that it just floated on the top when she put it back. I didn't notice any dead Amano when I checked last night, but I did notice one just chilling on the bottom. I have had them jump out of nets while moving them, but I didn't know they could travel so far out of water. The lid on that particular tank has a gap all the way around and sits on little plastic supports, but the water level is probably 2 inches from the top.

That’s quite the trip for that little guy! I didn’t realize they could get that far out of water either.

 

[Fishfur]

Last night my wife told me she caught one of my Amano shrimp walking across the hardwood floor probably 6 or more feet from the closest aquarium. She said it was moving when she picked it up, but that it just floated on the top when she put it back. I didn't notice any dead Amano when I checked last night, but I did notice one just chilling on the bottom. I have had them jump out of nets while moving them, but I didn't know they could travel so far out of water. The lid on that particular tank has a gap all the way around and sits on little plastic supports, but the water level is probably 2 inches from the top.

I found a bamboo shrimp once, a good ten feet from its tank. It had gone under a dresser, where I couldn’t see or reach so while I was aware one was missing I thought a cat probably got it. They did manage to sneak into the room now & them.

Found it when I rearranged some furniture. Poor thing. Larger shrimp can trundle along until their gills start to dry - and some species like the bamboos apparently will make short overland treks seeking something - possibly new mates or more food, who knows?

 

[Deathstar31]

I changed the water.

 

[SteelersChris]

Bitter sweet day. The lights for the 125 came in and I’m enjoying the fish in it, but the snakeskin bars in my 54 corner Southeast Asian tank have what looks to be epistylis.

 

[Leeman75]

Bitter sweet day. The lights for the 125 came in and I’m enjoying the fish in it, but the snakeskin bars in my 54 corner Southeast Asian tank have what looks to be epistylis.

I don't know much about epistylis. How treatable is it? Sorry to hear this.

 

[SteelersChris]

From what I’m reading it is treatable, But since I’m not positive which one it is I’m going to treat for both. Epistylis is recommended to be treated by lowering temp and feeding medicated food (antibacterial) and reduce feedings. Ich you’d want to raise the temperature and treat with an anti parasitic like ich x. Could also add salt in both situations but that tank is heavily planted. This is a new tank and the barbs seem to be the only ones that have it so far. Since I’m not positive which it is I think I’m going to keep water temp the same as normal (77-78F), feed medicated food sparingly, treat with Ich X and do frequent water changes. I’m no expert on this, so I’ll open a new thread in case anyone has better advice or wants to see how this turns out in case helpful if in a similar situation.

 

[newjungletank]

From what I’m reading it is treatable and less lethal than a ich. But since I’m not positive which one it is I’m going to treat for both. Epistylis is recommended to be treated by lowering temp and feeding medicated food (antibacterial) and reduce feedings. Ich you’d want to raise the temperature and treat with an anti parasitic like ich x. Could also add salt in both situations but that tank is heavily planted. This is a new tank and the barbs seem to be the only ones that have it so far. Since I’m not positive which it is I think I’m going to keep water temp the same as normal (77-78F), feed medicated food sparingly, treat with Ich X and do frequent water changes. I’m no expert on this, so I’ll open a new thread in case anyone has better advice or wants to see how this turns out in case helpful if in a similar situation.

Hopefully, you don't have to go to copper to save it. Good luck.