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Probably true - they are very small and very well camouflaged.I mean I would never see them in my heavily planted dimly lit tank.
Probably true - they are very small and very well camouflaged.I mean I would never see them in my heavily planted dimly lit tank.
They are fascinating little fish [not to mention they look like they ought to be able to flyOne of the fishes I had ordered a couple of weeks ago wasn't sent so as long as they were sending that i went ahead and picked-up a trio of these little things; for such small things they are easy enough to find - just look on the sponge![]()
Post pics!! They are truly beautiful plants but so hard to find (or so it seems) and freaking expensive when they do show up. Maybe one day I’ll find one I can justify spending on.Around a month ago I picked up a madagascar lace bulb and it's doing great at room temp with moderate flow and low light.
So I've decided to build a tank around it and looking at compatible fish I've decided to go with the classic WCMM. Will be picking up a group of 8 after work!
Post pics!! They are truly beautiful plants but so hard to find (or so it seems) and freaking expensive when they do show up. Maybe one day I’ll find one I can justify spending on.




Hope you didn't get cut too badly - been there, done that.You bet, was going to use my spare top fin 5g with built in filtration in the rear sorta like the fluval flex to quarantine. I was trying to remove the filtration unit to make more usable room, but in the process shattered the back glass and give myself a fairly nasty cut. Not going back into town tonight so the fish will spend the night in a bucket with a cycled sponge until I pick up a extra 5g tomo.
This build will wind up in a 20 long tho.
I started the bulb in a 2 gallon jar, but didn't realize the thickness and curvature of the container would distort the view so badly. I'll get the best pics I can tho.
Actually ordered my bulb from "dustinsfishtanks" . It arrived with 5 healthy leaves about 4" long, but went ahead and trimmed them off before planting. Planted in 2" gravel and give it a root tab and she's a rocking. The first leaf that grew kinda come in twisted, but the others are looking good. Believe I paid 9.99.
Sorry for horrible pics, this jar is tuff lol but here's trying!
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Little secret - there are 5 or 6 different species of plants sold as madagascar lace; two are quite common- they have fancy names but for simplicity we will call them narrow and wide leaf. Some of these random species can get quite huge - i once had a single leaf that was more than 8 inches wide and well over 18 inches long. Of course growing condition as well as specific species will have an impact on the leaf size.Around a month ago I picked up a madagascar lace bulb and it's doing great at room temp with moderate flow and low light.
Little secret - there are 5 or 6 different species of plants sold as madagascar lace; two are quite common- they have fancy names but for simplicity we will call them narrow and wide leaf. Some of these random species can get quite huge - i once had a single leaf that was more than 8 inches wide and well over 18 inches long. Of course growing condition as well as specific species will have an impact on the leaf size.
Great excuse!A store not far from here has Rosy loaches for a not too horrendous price - I am sooooo tempted. Been wanting some for a long time.
No idea if they have both sexes of the loaches or not - good excuse to go look at them, right?
Best I can tell the current belief appears to be that there’s one species, A.madagascarianus, which has 3 variants rather than multiple species. In botany changes like this are pretty common.Little secret - there are 5 or 6 different species of plants sold as madagascar lace; two are quite common- they have fancy names but for simplicity we will call them narrow and wide leaf. Some of these random species can get quite huge - i once had a single leaf that was more than 8 inches wide and well over 18 inches long. Of course growing condition as well as specific species will have an impact on the leaf size.
As far as i know there is only one species of a. boivinanus and it is by far my favorite plant. It can fill a 29 but the leaves are super dark and well i just like it a lot. I had hoped c. aponogeton woudl be similiar but alas it is not - the leaves are not quite as dark green and the leaves are less dense (fewer leaves?); the hope here is that crypts are sometime more predictable than aponogeton esp around hibernation and such. My boivinianus never went into hibernation after 4 years but the books i've read insist it will sooner or later. a. cripus the book i have indicate it won't go into hibernation and it loves hot water making it good for the discus tank (which is also one of my taller aquarium - though in the discus tank it easily reaches 25-30 inches long leaves and it was such a tiny thing a year ago i didn't even think it would grow at all.I know I once grew an aponogeton boivinianus and in a month and a half time it filled my entire 20T.
Thanks for insight!
According to Kassleman book the flower has different colours - violet, white and pink. One confusing thing is she notes the plant should be kept at the temperature of origin as there are some from highlands and others from coast but of course she provides no hint as to how you can determine the appropriate temperature. She also notes the substrate needs to be very rich but the water extremely soft and acidic. Last but least she talks about special treatment due to rest period. Given all these factors she concludes it rarely does well in the long term in the aquarium though she neglects to quantify long term. So we don't know if it has 50 years or 50 seconds to successBest I can tell the current belief appears to be that there’s one species, A.madagascarianus, which has 3 variants rather than multiple species. In botany changes like this are pretty common.
The names of the 3 variants appear to be Fenestralis, Bernierianus & Henkelianus but you’ll also see Major & Guillotii mentioned, though they won’t lead you anywhere particularly helpful if you search those last two.
As it happens. Aquasabi offers A.madagascariensis Fenestralis - which they describe as having broad leaves but not as tall as others.
Aponogeton madagascariensis "fenestralis"
There is an interesting article on them in TFH, and in the article a botanist mentions that observations of this plant in the wild show great variability in leaf form & size.
Length can be anywhere from a mere 2” to near 3 feet and the size, shape & number of frnestrations in the leaves are also extremely variable.
Secrets of the Madagascar Lace Plant | Tropical Fish Hobbyist Magazine
Incidentally, they are not true bulbs. They grow from a tuberous rhizome.
What’s the title of that Kasselman book? My reference library went missing when I moved - hope it’ll turn up one of these days.According to Kassleman book the flower has different colours - violet, white and pink. One confusing thing is she notes the plant should be kept at the temperature of origin as there are some from highlands and others from coast but of course she provides no hint as to how you can determine the appropriate temperature. She also notes the substrate needs to be very rich but the water extremely soft and acidic. Last but least she talks about special treatment due to rest period. Given all these factors she concludes it rarely does well in the long term in the aquarium though she neglects to quantify long term. So we don't know if it has 50 years or 50 seconds to success
Henkelianus is the one i associate as being large leaf. I've never seen one with pink flowers![]()
Aquarium plants; she only sells via her website and it is ok i guess. It misses a lot of uncommon plants which i encounter more these days.What’s the title of that Kasselman book? My reference library went missing when I moved - hope it’ll turn up one of these days.
Thanks! I’ll have to take a peek at it.Aquarium plants; she only sells via her website and it is ok i guess. It misses a lot of uncommon plants which i encounter more these days.
It is less expensive on her website.Thanks! I’ll have to take a peek at it.
I peeked - it looks very nice - Amazon was offering it for close to $300 CAD. Too rich for my blood unless that elusive lottery win comes my way.
Thanks, that is a big improvement but it’ll have to wait until a few other essential expenses have been taken care of.
I really like pencilfish as dithers - or Kubotai rasboras.Guess you'll have to settle for the 30g breeder. Never cared for species only tanks, especially cave dwellers. Not enough action, Dither fish add a nice dynamic and keep the tank lively. Most like zebra danios are quick enough to avoid confrontation. Galaxy rasboras are my new choose for small Dither fish.
Dang been waiting for pangio meyersi for 2 years; however they did get (wetspot) pangio sheffordi in stock this week (also been waiting 2 years) so i ordered a pile of them.Went to a great LFS to pick up an order & left with more.
No Rosy loaches so instead, half a dozen Hara jerdoni (Anchor cats), some giant kuhli loaches (P.meyersi), six more Ruby tetras, and happened to notice a tank marked T.espei which contained T.espei but also had Purple harlequins mixed in with them - shipped that way.
So now I have 9 more purple harlequins - 3M & 6F. I rather hope I can coax them into producing some purple fry when they’re a bit more mature - they are only about half adult size.
Got a bunch of nice plants too - mostly 40% off. Yay Boxing Day sales.
This store had P.shelfordii awhile back but I didn’t find out ‘til it was too late. I hope they’ll get more at some point.Dang been waiting for pangio meyersi for 2 years; however they did get (wetspot) pangio sheffordi in stock this year (also been waiting 2 years) so i ordered a pile of them.
Purchase endlers online from a breeder. Breeding pairs or trios are usually somewhere between $6-$20 each (varies depending on the supplier and the strain) plus shipping. It's quite a lot for a few fish but the price is worth it in the long-run because they usually come disease-free and they will breed and produce many fry.I wanted to get endlers or guppies but at my LFS they're like 7$ a piece and imma be real, I aint paying that for one fish so Im gonna get some other nano fish for in my shrimp tank (recommendations welcome)





Orange is female, the dark one is male.Picked up a couple new platy and 5 guppies. 3F/2M. Some really nice colors on them hopefully they fill our 55 back up. Miss seeing 20-30 babies of all different colors. If anyone can id the platy sexes that would be appreciated. Not sure if they’re still too young to tell. Thanks!
Picked up a couple new platy and 5 guppies. 3F/2M. Some really nice colors on them hopefully they fill our 55 back up. Miss seeing 20-30 babies of all different colors. If anyone can id the platy sexes that would be appreciated. Not sure if they’re still too young to tell. Thanks!

What are those fish?I picked up a group a these guys the other day; seem to be doing well enough - they are in the discus aquarium which is nice and warm and very soft (ec 20 ph 4.7):
Dicrossus maculatus; the past two weeks they have just begun to colour-up.What are those fish?