CHJ's Tanks.

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Oh, hey. I guess I should have posted here quite some time ago.
So I have now cleaned the glass on the tanks to make them photo ready> Good idea!
I have also topped most of them off > bad idea! Mulm everywhere!

One post per tank? Except for smaller tanks.

Cory tank. 55 gal
Fluval 40x canister and emperor HOB.
Well you can see a loach in this one and the slime I'm at war with.
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Some cories lots of sterbs an and "I'm not sure? I got it for its high fine and beautiful green blue sheen" in the center. The I'm not sures got forgotten in a different tank for a few years.
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A hoplo who had all its whiskers eaten and so is healing and growing like no one's business. Once the whiskers come back it goes back with the other hoplos.
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Sterbs, duplicarious, an "I'm not sure" and some loaches. No Concolor (they all hid). I'm also going to have to move that sword out of the canister flow as I can't get it to stay planted. Never pull up your big swords if you can avoid it.
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Sterbs and the "I don't know". The big on is "Blimp fish" or one of her daughters.
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Sterbs (mostly) hiding in wisteria that was 2x as tall yesterday before I cut off all the parts that had "The Slime" on them.
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All in all I do not know how many corries are in the tank. With the new mop in the tank all the smaller cories are now hiding in it (before the mop went in they darkened the sand with their number. I'd say there are 70-100 corries in the tank, many of them babies.

This tank is built into the wall of my bar. No one sat at that section so my wife moved the tank in. The beautiful framing is also her work.
 

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CW130 Delphax. with freshly stirred up tank. As their name suggests they are little pigs. Ravenous. Messy. Contenders for a canister.
Unlike the rule of 6 we like, these like at least 12. I say at least 12 as I have 12 and they stay bunched up. 20 gal, foam.
They also bounce off the corrugated plastic cover a lot. When they gulp air they do it enthusiastically like they do everything. So consider them jumpers.
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Desk Fluval Flora with ~15 6 ray/false corries and over 5 Hastatus, I say "Over 5" as there were 5 but I have seen small groups of babies. Oh and a few shrimp.
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Equis tank. ~20 equis. Soon the daily water changes will begin (to get them to spawn). 20 gal. Foam.
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Green Laser tank. Now with stirred up mulm.
20 gal.
Foam
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Crime loach!
Man, I never thought I'd get to own another of these since they are banned (due to a mistake in shipping I have one!). It's mass is 2-4x what it was when I got it.. a week or two ago. Definitely out competing the lasers but not many things will put away food like a weather loach.
It is with the green lasers as it needs an unheated tank. It will move before I start the live food and daily water changes for breeding.
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The full length tank because I figured I could turn out the light on the tank below it and take a pic without washout. Derp. That is gym mat below the tank. Java mass is for breeding.
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L134 tank. 1 parotocinclus BriskI left in it. I'm not trying parotocinclus again.
20 gal. foam. Will be receiving large pannplax canister when I get the hose to inline a large canister foam.
12? L134s? After all the murders last breeding season and the one before they are now in a species only tank. Lost 6 breeding size adults each year. I think I have figured out who the murder is but will not know for sure until July/Aug, no murders this year means I have separated the culprit.
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The spinach is for the paroto.
 
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Ready for the boredom?
This is Nibble's tank until ~April. Nibbles is an Mbu.
75 gal. April will be a 500 gallon acrylic upgrade. Then this tank will become another pleco tank. I may wade into a local swamp/pond with an electric chainsaw for logs and go royal. I want royals.
Filter: FX6. will be 2 FX 6s when I hook up another one.
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You see it turns out that Mbu's are camouflaged and blend into wisteria really well. The "Something to look at since you can't see the puffer" fish are dwarf rainbows.
The clips on the intake hold the prefilter sponge on the huge ungainly intake.

And on the other end of the puffer world, peas. I throw about the same amount of snails in the pea tank every day as I do in the Mbu tank.
10 gal. Not sure about the HOB, it is for a 55.
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These 2 tanks are the reason I have so many snails growing in so many of my other tanks (and a 40-50gal snail pail that is off to a rocky start. It will eventually get mysis or scuds ~jan when the craigslist guy sells them by the gallon) . You really can't have too many tanks growing snails for your puffs. 1/8 cup per day, per tank.

Edit: found Nibbles! He saw the camera and his colors faded. Nibbles really likes it under the foam prefilter but if it gets filled in with sand, can't dig like a cichlid, and so hides until we dig the pit back out. I plan to build him a dog house and reorg the plants for it.
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Now for something more interesting
Pleco grow out tank.
75 gallons
Filter: Foam tower/ tower of power/whatever. it is a maxI jet with a bunch of foams and a polishing pad (no media in core). I briefly ran a second but the flow made the rainbows hide from it.

The "gives people something to look at" fish, Congos and rainbows. That slice of pumpkin is almost gone.
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And now we spin the filter because you are here to see plecos
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Sorry that is the best I could do. Every time I get them out front they all shoot behind it again.

More pleco hunter. Oh I didn't see the 3rd right in the foreground until now. Starlight and cactus.
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A better starlight
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The mops. Now that the one on the right is just coming to life (~6 months) the bristles like to suck on it. The one on the left is new and just beginning its journey to live mop.
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Oh, I didn't get any bristles in any pics. I was hoping to get at least one of ElI (long fin with a neat morph, it has a cool black spot on its head. I will see if I can breed for this when it grows up)
 

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Phantom tank.
55 gal
Filter: 2 x Emperor HOB.
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OK that is boring. Lets see if we can at least see some.
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Mmm snails.

Well that looks terrible. How about some historical footage of them?
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Love the blue fins on green morph. Probably a few years to breeding age I'm guessing.
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This is the less good looking yellow fins on green morph. I wish the nice one wasn't hiding.
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As it is I have removed the greenery mostly and plan to move to rock work for these guys. Also plan to jack up the flow either with a spare FX 6 (probably) or a maxijet (maybe). As the tank is in transition it looks WAY worst than the earlier pics that had lots of plants. Well and the other plecos and fish went away. Just some angels I got ripped off on left that I'm waiting for to die (how long do angels live? they should be gone in 5-6 years right?)
 
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Blackwater
60 gallon
Filter 2x Emperor.

Has some clowns.
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Has a yoyo that the LFS thought was a chain.
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It has the murder suspect. I believe this gold nugget killed all the l134s and another nugget. Whoever it was pinned the other plecos in their caves and sucked all the scales off them. Also a rabid spinach eater. Not so much on the protein foods
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The tank also has what I though was cotton but I have hit it with fungicide and general cure and it does no good, so I will have to ask in the disease forum about this. Probably not supposed to post diseased fish in an aquarium thread. It makes it sound like you fish get diseases. At this point I'm ready to salt dip them.
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Shoaling/holpo tank.

55 gal
Filter: fluval 406 (7?)
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They should take my camera away from me.
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The tank looked much better last week but the Fluval took a nap and the tank got blasted with Ich wiping out most of the shoaling fish. Let this be a lesson. If you always brag that you never get ich, even with clowns.. You know what is coming.. oh you know. The other angels and rams are in a hospital tank breathing ich cure. After 2 days they are looking good.
 
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Oh I forgot the supers. Everyone loves supers!
20 gal
Filter: foam.
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Supers!

For future plans.
I'm hoping the LFS gets in the CW111 this week. You say you like to high fin? This is how you high fin! They would go in with the green lasers.

Black water will move to plecos and loaches only. Since I got ripped off I really hate those angels. Sorry angels, it isn't your fault.

In April the big acrylic build is planned. When the stand is built the 2 75s will get drained. Nibbles will spend a little time in the blackwater.. yeah nibbles will not like that.
I will pallet jack the 2 75s and their stand to where a couch is now and then build the 3x3x7-8 (8 if I want to move a wall a little. I like 8 as that is the length of an acrylic sheet) into its current space. Once moved they will get refilled and nibbles will go back in until the acrylic is done.

After than acrylic tank is done, half of the 75's sand will go in the acrylic to get mixed with the new sand the the FXs will get moved over.

So when that is complete..

The bar. My bar has needed a rebuild since I bought the house. Right now I'm thinking a curved acrylic heat formed over a masonite form. This tank will only be 16-18" tall and run the length of the bar. It will be a high flow river/stream tank so I can finally have all those cool high flow fish like hillstreams. Top lit from the edges with LED strip lighting. Many ported PVC pipes with increasing port number and size as they get to the far end. Each will have a maxijet 1200 at one end. They will all be covered in landscape cloth before sand, then pea gravel here and there, some field stones, and a bit of drift wood. For full biofilm that will have to age in what 6 months? more?

Or my attempts to heat form the acrylic will end in bubbled or wrinkled disaster and I will build the new bar out of wood and not have fish in it. Then I will complain a lot and be able to tell other people who want to try this sort of thing how it went wrong for me.

But this is a long way down the road (like koi/high fin shark pond in my backyard). This year the big tank.

So many fish to get, so little time.
 
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I forgot the breeding tank.
20 gal
Filter: foam
Currently occupied by Mr and Mrs albino checkerboard Hoplo. He doesn't attack my hand so the tank is a little cool for breeding (heater just died).
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I didn't want snails in there but snails.

The grow out tub. Because a plastic tub is just a cheap aquarium you can't look into. In the summer I want to put down 12'x12' worth of gym mat and then get an 80$ 12'x18" deep pool for summer grow out.
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filter: foam.
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The snail pail. It got off to a rocky start when I though I killed it by dumping too much garbage like green mussel shells in it. I dropped a foam in and it has cleared up. Dumped in the rest of my cuttlefish bone. So much calcium. Grow snails, grow!
The original clip on grow light didn't grow any algae. The next one off Amazon was a rip off (they added 50% to its actual power in their listing), that light couldn't even grow old, let alone algae. So now it is just running an LED overhead from Costco and the algae grows.
I think I need to saran wrap it to get the humidity up for the mystery snails?
Basically it works like a worm bin but you dump less compost into it. So any food the plecos are tired of like pumpkin rinds goes in the snail pail. All the wisteria that was coated in slime, into the pail.
As it is now January I have to check Craigslist for the scud or Mysis shrimp guy and buy a gallon from him. all I have to do before that is add about 3 inches of leaves at the bottom. Because who doesn't love tasty shrimp/scuds?
I smashed up some egg crate to get more surface to grow algae on. I should add more.
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Ah yes, I forgot the bronze machine. This is a tank that generates bronzes at an alarming rate. I'm trying to replicate it in my breeders so they are also half full of java moss. It is in the only air conditioned room in the house so hopefully that is not the trick.
15 gal. This was the first tank I got. I was 9, this tank is old.
Filter: some HOB for a 55.
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I don't remember what kind of cory the other one who crawled into the shot is. Some cheap 6$ cories that I thought looked nice. They have not bred and seem pretty unhappy about being in a tank with bronzes that drive over them like trucks every time food shows up.
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I love bronzes so much. So beautiful. I suspect they would be terribly expensive if they didn't breed like rabbits.
 
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After millions of years of evolution plecos have become perfect at blending in with their prey.
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And I finally got a picture of Eli. Not a good picture but a picture.
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The black disk is nice and round. I'm excited by this breeding project I just need the fish to get to breeding size.
 
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The apisto in the ex-shoaling/hoplo tank was nice enough to make himself visible.
The LFS says I grow monster apistos. This one is only ~3" long so not to bad. My pandoros had 1/2-1" on him.
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He normally looks like a tiny green terror. Today he decided to be blue with red cheeks for some reason. Sadly he is the only apisto left out of their group. Several years ago I got him, another male and ~4 females. all the others have passed. Even worse, I removed the 2 largest hoplos to the breeding tank which made the rest of the herd stop laying like a pile of logs and take over all the coconut shells displacing the apisto and the rams. Poor fish is now homeless and alone.

I was looking for an adonis or better a Acanthicus hystrix as I want to grow another big pleco. LFS said this is like it but better.
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Mustard spot, because a fish hoarder can't just go to the LFS for black worms. Looking it up max size.. 5". I guess "just like it but better" means prettier lyre tail. It is unfortunately a single when I usually like to buy 6 of any pleco for future breeding. I made it out without buying any Queen Arabesques or Sultans!!
Well it is the fish my wife was talking about for weeks so she is delighted. Still want a male Acanthicus hystrix for maximum pointy face. Good looking fish, it just will not grow freakish odontodes.

Fish hoarder finds bucket list fish in a tank.. uh oh.
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Now how many red wigglers can each eat in a night? They shall be GLORIOUS! (Harlequin Lancers, if you were wondering)

And as I mentioned that there is a craigslist guy who sells gamerus/scuds every Jan, I realized it is Jan so I checked craigslist. There he is like clockwork. So I grabbed all the dead leavs from outside my house and stuffed them in the snail pail. I will let them age in a week then contact him to see how much he charges for a gallon of scuds.
 
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While this is not a tank, I feel it is important.
This is my worm bin.
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That is where all the duckweed and coffee grounds go.

In exchange I get fish lunch. just put the worms in a strainer and rinse them until the dirt is gone.
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Now I have talked to people about this a lot and most have a huge worry about "The smell". I was worried with my first worm bin so I built a charcoal filter into it. It turns out this is not needed.
No smell at all when closed. When open there is a smell of rich earth with a hint of coffee. I would describe the smell as pleasant.

So how do you make one?
1. go to the hardware store and buy 2 bins that look kind of like that. Also buy a 2x4 and a bag of peat moss (if you didn't already have one for your blackwater/killie tank)
2. Cut the 2x4 into lengths that will fit in one bin.
3. Drill a ton of holes through the bottom of the other bin.
4. Put the bin with the holes into the other bin with the 2x4 to keep the top bin from settling too far into the bottom bin. This is so any extra liquid can drain into the bottom bin (liquid and fruit flies killed my first bin and lead to this design)
5. add peat moss about 1/3 of the way up.
6. Throw in your red wigglers. Note: Normal earth worms and night crawlers do not have the heat tolerance of the wigglers so those would be a gamble if you try them.
7. You probably want to buy a trowel to turn it over every so often to make it look prettier and to dig for worms.

After that throw in vegetable scraps and egg shells from your meal prep. Coffee grounds are also great.
No meat, bones, etc. Bananas (fruit fly explosion and bin death) are also a no no. You can look up other forbidden things (onions?) on the internet. I don't throw in all my hot peppers as I do not think the worms will enjoy it and I'm not thinking my fish want spicy worms.

The King of DIY said he spends ~500$ per month feeding his fish. Me, I want to make feeding fish as affordable as possible. Also worms you grow you know are safe, they are also more nutritious than filler loaded canned food. Besides fish love worms.

This bin has died once when super tiny centipedes got into it and ate all the worms. So these may have to be restarted every so often.

Hopefully the snail pail successfully grows scuds and I can further cut food bills.
 
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Looking at the coloring on red neck spotted ancistrus their color spot looks the same shape and location as Eli's black disk so I'm wondering if this one area has a specific gene(s) that I can breed for.
If so planning to breed him develops better odds of retaining that trait.
 
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Wish me luck, so much luck. WISH IT TO ME NOW!!!!!!

I noticed the sumo exhibiting very bumblebee gobyish behavior with a terracotta pot.
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OK, they have been aggressive with each other since they moved in. Now this one threatens all the cories who get close (short charges, circling/spinning on the pot, and bounces). I have no idea why a loach would want the top of a pot that has a cory hiding in it. My wife then said "That is not a cory in the pot."


Oh..
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I know this behavior in other fish.
OK she looks like a smudge or shadow there and you can't tell that she has dug out the back and is moving the sand forward. I'm not going to point a flashlight in there for a better pic or change my routine in any way.

If those cories eat the eggs I'm going to punch them. I love my cories, but if they eat sumo eggs they deserve a punching.

Sadly I do not have any acceptable cam I can set up and run 24x7 to document this. So enjoy your stills.
 
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The hoplos have finally gotten used to the big male having left for the breeding tank and are now back to piling under a log.
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This has allowed the apisto to reclaim his home
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And the angels are actively staring at where their breeding post was a second ago. I'm just reusing the posts I used for breeding discus. All I had to do was pop the ceramic tile off the bottom and then chop off a bit so they would fit.
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The empty snail free tank the post went into.. had snails. The snails showed up and cleans both posts over night. Blahrg! Those snails shall pay! OMG I didn't take a terrible picture this time!
So the posts are back in the tank and both pairs can defend their future eggs as mother nature intended.
 
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So I said
I'm not going to point a flashlight in there for a better pic or change my routine in any way.
Yesterday I added ~2 5 gal pails of RO to top off the tank.
Now the loaches are not interested in spawning anymore.. Blahrg.

Note to self: Follow own advice. I guess trickle next time if I can get them interested in spawning again.. or if it was the reduced splash from the canister run the tank 5+ gal low until breeding is complete. At least I can now work on tuning their cave opening to prevent cory entry. Time to boil some river rock.
I was surprised how fast a full grown concolor fled that pot after fleeing into it. I Ms Loach is very aggressive in her house. I do not associate long loaches with aggression but mating fish are different fish.
 
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It was not the RO add that stopped the breeding.
The loaches are dead and my first post shows what I did. I'm kicking myself for not thinking about what I was doing.
This is the tank now.
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You are seeing it aren't you.
Yeah if your tank is way overstocked because your sterbs wanted more sterbs and you remove 95+% of your plant material.. Nitrates through the roof. The last straw was removing 95% of the massive sword so that I could get it to stay planted. I have had to do this every time I pull up a massive sword, I tried everything to avoid it. When I saw the roots were dying I went choppy choppy and planted it.
I should have seen what I was doing. So now it is months of water changes while the plants grow back. I will also be taking 30-40 sterbs to the LFS along with a similar number of bronzes from the bronze machine.

As this week is totally cursed I took the small caves from the L134 tank and pitched them into the pleco grow out tank.
I didn't think the BNs were big enough to be interested in mating and that they would just like some caves..
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Cave kill. Such a beautiful fish, I really wanted to breed it, look at those ondontodes and he doesn't even have whiskers yet. Amazing length of fins and tail.
So I have now pulled the caves from my other pleco tanks seeing as apparently it is now mating time. Only flower pots remain in all but one pleco tank. This is why we can't have nice things.
I think going forward I'm going to start making caves like I saw at the LFS. A raised square area with flat plates sticking out all around it so the plecos burrow into the sand under it. My L134s love digging so much I suspect they are half cichlid.

The 2 fungus angels lost their battle this week after weeks/months getting bombed with all the common treatments.

It is not just the fish that the reaper is visiting.
I was drawing down new media in my vacuum chamber.
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After the first draw the pump died. So now I have a canister full of floaty perlite. It usually takes 3-4 draw downs to get the stuff to sink.

Car's tire is flat and the air pump died.

My wife sent a list of fish for her sister to put in her 55 that she dug out of the garage after seeing my tanks. So much carnage will happen with that list. Not to mention the temp differences with the fish. So she has to send a correction email today.

This all started when my Fluval 40x took a nap and the tank got blasted with ich wiping out my shoaling fish. At least all the other affected fish went into hospital were fine in 2 days.

This is so frustrating after years of stability with the exception of the July/Aug pleco murder fest during mating season. Now, all kinds of problems. At this point I do not want to touch anything for fear of it exploding.

As this update was a downer, to try to end on a positive note, cory blob! Everyone loves cory blobs.
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I couldn't get one of the big blobs as when I get close to the tank they get scared and run to sand. My wife used video to get stills to try to count and got one blob with 30-40 cories in it.

And now after a work meeting people are worrying we are all getting fired. I'm telling you this week(s) is cursed.
 

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Well to see if the curse has passed.
Leaking car tire is fixed and no longer leaking so maybe it was just a bad week.
To see if something I touch explodes lets build a filter.

So to make a power tower/foam tower/needs a better name filter
You order the biggest cheapest foams you can find along with a maxijet 1200 and some polishing pad (optional)
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Next you pull out the cores
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Looks like some flow obstruction in these.
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Only remove the cap obstruction if you ever want to run these with air in the future.

Grab your tools
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Chop out all the obstructions then grind to niceness or what ever smooth pleases your OCD.
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Now here is the choice. You can cut enough polishing pad to wrap your core 1 layer thick or you can skip this. If you do this you will have to be one of those "I wash my foams once a week" folk and not one of those "I think I washed my foams once.. once" folk. The reason is the 50 micron polishing pad will clog up much faster than the foams.
Then there is cleaning the pad.. such fun.
Even without the polishing pad you will actually have to clean this filter more often than an air stone driven foam just due to the amount of water flowing through it. This means keep an eye on your output and if it looks like it had dropped a bit haul out the filter and clean it. It will be heavy like a log and mostly solid when the flow drops.
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After the first one just add the others. You may struggle a bit, this is kind of a pain.
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Then go get your MaxI jet
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OMG he is cheating! He already built this! I see the new foams in the box still! There is some crud on that filter, I think he was already using that one! The MaxI looks new though.

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So that is about what it will look like.

Into the tank it goes.
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It is running and didn't explode. Lets call the cursed week over!

Now you may be asking "Can I just build the tower and run it off an air stone?". I wouldn't the air stone can't even come close to moving as much water as the maxijet. The power head is what makes this an awesome filter.

PS: Always remember to keep your power head below water for lubrication and cooling.

One day I want to build a whole log out of these that runs the length of the tank with a power head in each end and just lay it on the back bottom edge of the tank so the plecos can hide behind it.
If I do this I would have to run a large air pump for the air as the power head's venturI will not draw air down that deep I suspect.

Next stupid filter project?
I think pulling out all the foams in one side of my Emperor filters and replacing it with water hyacinth or potatoes (if it is still cold).

Next actual filter project is just chopping down the intake on a cascade 1000 so it fits in a 20 Long. I'm still trying to decide if I want to put a clear prefilter can full of java or riccia on the output and then wrap it in LED strip lighting facing in as a nitro filter?
Nah, it would look funny with a can on the intake and the output. It would also take up space I do not have near that rack. I'm still trying to figure out how to fit I a bin to hold the cascade, the can, and a GFI suicide extension cord for it to prevent flooding (the cord plug in gets wet it goes pop and shuts down the filter).

Why is that heater vertical? Well off to go fix that.
 
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Well seeing as the shrimp I have for Nibbles are cleaned I'm wondering if he is getting enough vitamins from shrimp and snails.
I have arbitrarily decided he may not be.
So I waved a carrot outside the tank. He was not amused. Same for all the veggies I feed to plecos.
So it is time to trick Nibbles into eating his veggies.
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He doesn't even know there is spirulina in them. Silly fish, I got you to eat healthy!

I'm not sure if head on shrimp are better as I do not know if they are starved for a few days to clear their digestive track. I plan head on in the future but will be breaking one down to see if anything is in it and then most likely injecting spirulina.

And for those who like catfish that snuggle.
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They are always cuddled up together.
 
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Went to the LFS, first open day of the week is always chaotic and parking is rough due to the crowds.

I just went for black worms, get in and get out. Just the worms.
But then the LFS Keeper asked "So are you going to get one?"
I was a litttle confused adn he mentioned the text message he sent me. Well turns out the tiny fish in the bad picture with "1.5" LOL" as the caption was not a mustard spot.
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Ill try to get a better picture later, he was terribly uncooperative just giving belly shots on the glass the whole night. That said it looks like my next "grow a large pleco" project now has a new favorite and the albino gibbiceps were doing so well.

Then I noticed a familiar fish
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I saw the dario dario and though about the L134 tank which has a nice carpet of black worms because the L134s won't eat them. I figured it would be funny one tiny predator in a L134 species only tank just spending its life pulling up black worms.
Got home and checked the temp for dario dario. Nope, not running the little guy 11 degrees over suggested temp. So into a different tank he went.
When I released him he went straight to the bottom of the tank and began biting a black worm. So he should be happy. Well, happy and alone. Apparently this shipment had girls but the first person to spot them bought them all.
Oddly when I went to turn off the lights he came to the glass and begged. I have never had a dario dario beg for food before.

And then we figured we could add the original rainbows I wanted in a tank when I had to settle for parkinsonI instead.
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2 OK boys and a really amazing girl.

LFS now plans to try to get CW111 in in 2020 as it didn't happen last year. I have been warned that if they can be acquired the price will be horrific.
LFS guy showed me a picture his "guy" in SA sent him. I think these should be coming in and I'm moving fish around for them. The thing was amazing. Searching the internet it looks like it is ancistrus wabenmuster. I crave this fish!

A Vietnamese guy started up a conversation with me and began showing me the pictures of guppies in Vietnam that he can get for 1$ a piece over there. Yeah.. never seen guppies like that. crown tails and ones with color patterns like I have never seen and tail lengths/sizes that if I saw them online I's say they were photoshop. Insane stuff.
We talked for quite a bit and then he and his friends bought the 3rd most expensive fish in the store. Not a guppy. ~24" Albino arrowana (weird that it had normal colored eyes instead of albino eyes, I didn't know arrowana worked that way). I never get to see the top end fish sell, so that was really cool.
I love gregarious people who show me cool fish out of the blue.

Got lots of flattery from hearing how many people had tried to buy the java moss I gave him. I guess it is NFS and not getting broken down into golf ball sized lumps for sale. It is spectacular in his bosmanI tank and the rainbows seem to love it though they look a little small to breed to me.
And then he went on and on with great energy to another customer about the hulking pandoros I used to sell him. "I'm not kidding you they were as big as sunfish!" (they were not as big as sunfish)
It was a good day for my ego.


And after getting home hours later I realized I forgot to buy the black worms....
 
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Installed pre-prefilters in my war against the slime. Hopefully they starve out the slime on the prefilters.
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Refishscaped a tank.
Before :
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After:
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I feel bad for hating those angels so much but when Anglemania.net rips you off for 4-500$, you hate being reminded about it when you look in a tank. Now all the rip off angels are in one tank. Emperor Tetras now own this tank (not that my camera skills show that off.

When things thaw I shall be adding much more rock work in one end. Time to fill the open space with flow tolerant plants.
 
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That "After" tank today when a sword was getting transplanted from a 20gal it out grew to that 60.
So many baby emperors were hiding in the big blob of java moss. All the mulm in the water is from moving the java blob.
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That is just a few. My wife counted 17 that fled the moss when it got moved. No idea how many stayed in the moss.
So it turns out the emperors are breeding. They were just added to fill in the open area in a pleco tank. Moss + fish = babies.
 
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Yeah chubbies! Now I get to spend the next many years trying to world first.chubbies255.jpg
 
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Lets get ready to Mbu!

So you want a big adorable puffer but don't know how to go about it?
Here is a guide.

Pre planning.
1. You will need 5000$ You will not need this immediately but having it on hand before hand will relieve stress of trying to scrap it together further down the road.
2. You will need a big space for the final tank. A space that can support a lot of weight, say in your basement.
3. Start growing lots and lots of pond snails. Salt every tank you have with them get a trash bin "snail pail" going.
4. Put a worm bin in your kitchen for all your veggie scraps.
5. Start aging your starter tank in. You can start with a cheap craigslist 75-150 gal tank.
6. You will also need local Asian Groceries. Nice big ones. Blessed be the Asian Groceries.
7. If you can grow huge quantities of mystery snails this will be really good down the road. I have had no luck at breeding them.
8. Start looking at craigslist every day for a big tank over 300gal.
In a few months when you have lots and lots of snails and red wigglers you can move to the next step.

Starting out:
You do not need the final tank to begin with as long as you have the 5000$ making interest somewhere.
So you go to your LFS and meet your 200-300$ Mbu. Make sure it is eating. Mine lived at the LFS eating snails I'd bring it for a few months before coming home. Your LFS probably doesn't work this way unless you and the owner are friends. Always make friends with the LFS owners.
When you get home you will have something that looks like this
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Tiny and adorable.
If you can start it in a small tank like a 20 gal so you can blast it with general cure. Hit that thing with the API General Cure (or your preferred anti-parasitic) because ALL puffers come with parasites. After 2 weeks hit it again. Follow the directions of course.
Once it has been totally cleansed of unwanted internal fauna it can move to its first tank and will start eating snails as you can see from the belly on that one looking like a bag of marbles.
If yours is to small to handle large pond snails that is where the worms come in. Worms are also good as filler food. You will not feed worms for long but when the fish is tiny they are a real boon.

when they are small they may even bury themselves to be even more adorable.
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How much does it cost to feed an Mbu?
It costs ~20$ for the first 6 months if you have your snails and worms waiting. The ~20$ is a 5lb block of small shrimp from the Asian Grocery (get head on if you can, if they have horns just pull those off before feeding). when you get you block take it home and thaw it in a sink of cold water. Now throw some silicone sheets in half sheet pans and lay the shrimp out 1 layer thick and not touching and freeze them again. When frozen put them in a gallon ziplock or two. You will have to freeze many sheets worth of shrimp to refreeze all of them so plan a night of Netflix.
Once your Mbu is ~3" long it can eat shrimp (remember we do not count the tail in the length). Watching your little fish scarf up a shrimp that is 1/3-1/2 its size is funny. Your Mbu will love shrimp.
Shrimp only gets fed ever few days for 2 reasons.
1. Your Mbu loves shrimp and will begin to pout if you feed shrimp every day and then try to get it to eat crunchies like snails.
2. Well I guess there was just one reason. Shrimp will really help you conserve snails while it grows large enough to move up the crunchy chain to the next food.

Also with shrimp you can sneak in veggies in the form of spirilina. I also consider adding astaxanthin to see if that gives a color change that is pleasing.
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Your ~6 month old Mbu will looks something like this
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When they are ~4-6" you can begin buying cockles and sea snails from the Asian Grocery. You will have to open these but your puffer will learn they are food. snails you just pull the snail out a bit. Cockles you pry half open. Man I wish I had some mystery snails.
If your Asian Grocery has little 1" frozen clams you can try these.
When they are this size you will want to train yourself to feed them with stainless tongs. when it gets big enough to casually eat and adult clam your wrist is not nearly as durable as the clam and your fingers are not as durable as your wrist.

After your Mbu is around a year old you have a 9-10" fish (don't count the tail) that looks like this.
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At ~8" the world of food really opens up. You can start buying green mussels or black lip mussels at the Costco or local fish monger. With these up can just pinch off the tip of them to get them to sink if they float. When you bring home your live mussels just freeze them all immediately. These are soft enough you puffer should be able to deal with them itself.
Your fish monger may also have live crayfish. If you get these put them in an empty 20 gal and blast them with General Cure. Crayfish are raised in outdoor ponds so who knows what is in them. Also keep the top of the crayfish tank sealed. You will not believe how good crayfish are at escaping. If they escape they will roam your house until they die in places where you cannot find them but you can smell them.
Someone here said to put out bowls of water to attract them to avoid this.
If you have crayfish living where you live time to get crayfish traps and a fishing license. Remember to blast wild caught with GC>
Adding live crayfish to your puffer's tank is the best thing you can do for its brain. It now has something to hunt and they love hunting. Always remember to remove the flexible part of the claws on the crayfish so they can't injure your puff.
At this size your puff can also begin to handle smaller ~2" frozen clams from the Asian Grocery. Even at this size you will still have to open up cockles because they have really thick shells.

At this point you should be looking at deploying the final tank. Right now I see a 350gal (about as small as you would want to go) on craigslist for ~1,500$.
Odds are you will want to go a lot larger than this and that is where your 5000$ comes in. You are looking at building it yourself for that money. How you want to build it is up to you and Youtube is full of videos.
Hopefully you can build out ~1000gal with massive filtration.


Friends for your Mbu.
Mbus don't seem to care about small fish in the tank with them. Adding larger fish is a gamble. Adding larger fish that will go after the Mbu's food is putting their lives on a timer.
I also wouldn't add something that may attack the Mbu. No Doviis and such.
What about another Mbu? Some people make it work, I wouldn't gamble it. If I was rich I might have a few in tanks next to each other to see if there was hate. The end problem is how large a tank/pool you would need to have several of them. Even with a 5000 gal tank I'd consider a herd of Mbus in there to be a time bomb. If you want to try breeding, time bomb is a risk you'd have to take. If you want to try breeding odds are you know a lot more about puffers than I do.

How can I make my Mbu more active?
Feed it less. Mbu are responsible eaters and will eat until they are full. Then they power down to sleep it off. A full puffer is not interested in you or anything else, all it cares about is sleeping off its Thanksgiving meal.

Do I need air in my tank?
Yes, this is a big fish with big air needs. 2 FX6s agitating the surface of the water will not bring in enough air.

Do I need plants?
Need? No, but a giant pile of greenery to hide in will please the fish and it forgives a multitude of sins when it comes to the nitrate generation.

Do I need a litter scoop?
Not starting out but you will.

Can I put my hand in the tank when the puffer is full?
I do, sometime you have to shove the fish around to clean up. Always be ready to move fast though and never take your eyes off the fish.

Can I pet the puffer?
Yes, you will end up petting your puffer. You will break down and be unable to resist. Never touch their tail though, they do not like tail touches.

If I forget to use tongs and my fish eats my finger can I get it back?
At that point it is your finger or your fish, which do you love more? ALWAYS USE TONGS! That said I often forget to so I consider counting to 10 on my fingers to be an ephemeral thing.

How long will my Mbu live?
Plan for 10 years. This is not a big pleco where you have to figure out who to leave it to in your will.

How big will my Mbu get?
I plan for 3 feet. The internet says 30" but I know how wrong it is about species that are not common/popular. Nothing like being told a rhino pleco gets to 9" max, while you are looking at the 18" rhino in your tank. Long ago I saw a site that said Mbus get to 48" but I can no longer find that site.

Do I need to cover my tank?
Your puffer is expensive and you love it, so yes. Mine has never jumped enough to hit the cover but that doesn't mean it can't.

So about that Tetrodotoxin?
Well they say that they only get it in the wild from stuff that is in nature, so you home fish should be safe. I wonder about that because mine will eat wild caught food from that same mentioned nature. Don't try eating your puffer and don't touch it with open wounds just to be safe. Do not lick the puffer!

They don't have live crayfish near me but the grocery has a 5lb bag of Cajun boil crawfish can I use those?
No, just no. Eat those your self.

Why does the internet say it costs 300$ per month to feed an Mbu?
They are feeding it special seafood for fish that has the fish tax applied. If you feed it human food from the Asian Grocery it is much cheaper. Also growing/catching your own food saves a bundle. If you catch pile of crayfish in the summer freeze the extra ones live.

Can I save money by feeding it fish?
I wouldn't give it a taste for fish if you have or will have other fish in the tank.

Should I thaw frozen food before feeding?
I do. I hate biting into frozen things.
 
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Nibbles food.
You will find that the Asian groceries are the place to get your puffer food affordably. It is much cheaper to feed
Nibbles than it is to feed a big pleco that eats a zucchini a day.
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