Discus Gang Updates

[jmaldo]

No "Beefheart" here.
When I got my "Brood" they were juveniles, fed 3x per day. Primarily Australian "FDBW", 2-3x per week I would give frozen bloodworms and brine or mysis shrimp. Occasionally, they would get 'Live" Brine shrimp and "Live" fry. Due to the shortage of the "FDBW" had to start cutting back and started feeding pellets, crumbles and flakes. They were rejected at first but... they eventually accepted the other food. After a year they were fed 2x per day.

Good Luck!

 

[86 ssinit]

No I still feed often. The year old 3 times a day and the younger as many as I can no regularity. Also mix up the foods. Try to feed the freeze dried black worms the most.

 

[coralbandit]

I ended up feeding once a day many weeks when my work hours were long .I fed heavy in the am and all food was eaten . You have to be able to keep up water changes with heavy feeding .If you can't change water often enough you should not over / power feed IMO .
I have a discus gang update ...
The new Hans I got have grown well over the last 8 months even without the ultimate care ..They were still treated well but you have to get real with 50 tanks that add up to over 1,000g and limited time ..
Here they were back in April ;

3 days ago the largest male German wonder spawned with a Brilliant Turq female on wood .

^^ The pair with eggs on wood .Male behind female .

^^ Better shot of the eggs ..
They defended the eggs for 2 days in a 65g with 10 other discus ..The male is probably 6 inches [no joke]..
This morning only the bad eggs were left but the pair was still defending [half heartedly] some remaining unfertile eggs . I will move them to their own tank this weekend [probably a 4x2 80 g] and see how they do from there ..

 

[86 ssinit]

Coral I’ll say Hans discus really are a step above. I recently bought 4 from Kenny and there no better than the US discus I got last year. Nice looking fish but not reaching the Hans potential. Hans fish grow big and eat most everything. I bought 8 more in July and all but the white leopards have doubled in size and the checkerboards have reached 5.5. Hoping now that theyre in the 125 I’ll see more growth.

 

[jmaldo]

coralbandit

Looking "Good"
Especially the "Blue Diamonds", as you know my favorite. And the Angels.
Maybe someday I'll give each of them another go. But right now will get just have to appreciate them through the "Gangs" pics/vids.

Continued Success to you.
I still say you got the "Magic" water. LOL

 

[coralbandit]

Coral I’ll say Hans discus really are a step above. I recently bought 4 from Kenny and there no better than the US discus I got last year. Nice looking fish but not reaching the Hans potential. Hans fish grow big and eat most everything. I bought 8 more in July and all but the white leopards have doubled in size and the checkerboards have reached 5.5. Hoping now that theyre in the 125 I’ll see more growth.

The male removed today .He and his first mate have their own tank now ,well they share with zebras ..

6 inches tail to nose ..Hans and German discus all the way !
Thought I saw the females tube so maybe eggs again soon ..I have seen this and know to be patient ..

 

[Gamer]

I have always been garbage at taking pictures but mine are still alive. I hope healthy.

theyve survived since the move to 125

there are 2 angels in there. So far no issues I’m aware of.
I need cories next.

 

[86 ssinit]

Nice looking group. How long have you had them?

 

[jake37]

What temp do you keep the tank. I know a lot of people keep discus around 86. If that is the case for yourself how are the angels adapting ?

I have always been garbage at taking pictures but mine are still alive. I hope healthy.

theyve survived since the move to 125

there are 2 angels in there. So far no issues I’m aware of.
I need cories next.

 

[Gamer]

Nice looking group. How long have you had them?

I forget the start date. Lol. It’s whenever I announced I got them and was quarantining them.

but I updated my tank info including the 125 they’re currently in. If that helps. Also
my large angelfish has adapted just fine from what I can tell from his appetite. He is almost super friendly toward my discus.

I have one smaller angel too who’s been there since I added the entire stock.
I keep temps 86-87 and water changes galore. I don’t notice a ton of significant growth since getting them. I’m afraid to overfeed. I attached the goods I do have that I give my 125 tank attached for the heck of it!

 

[86 ssinit]

Do you have a thread going on the tank? Foods all good. On the Cali black worms they also sell black worm flakes. I mix those with the nutridiet flakes. They should grow big in the 125.
Angels are strange fish. I’ve witnessed them kill other angels a few times now when everything looked fine. For me I would not keep with discus. Angels are the stronger more aggressive fish. And there crazy!!! .

 

[jake37]

I've had my angels kill other angels (mostly it is the females that are the killers; males are just all bluff); but i've never seen them harass non-angels (other than chasing them away from eggs).

Do you have a thread going on the tank? Foods all good. On the Cali black worms they also sell black worm flakes. I mix those with the nutridiet flakes. They should grow big in the 125.
Angels are strange fish. I’ve witnessed them kill other angels a few times now when everything looked fine. For me I would not keep with discus. Angels are the stronger more aggressive fish. And there crazy!!! .

 

[Gamer]

Wow! I was unaware there was a benefit in choosing black worm flake over freeze dried. Good to know! Thanks

I have purchased a dozen black neon tetras. They are going in the 125!
They are quarantined with one large female rainbow fish , the rainbow was really good size and my current bosemani has been on his own in the 125 so I’m hoping when I introduce the new one that they’ll hit it off. I don’t know if I should add more buddies for him though. Iirc they don’t schoal that tightly as say.. rasboras or barbs for example.

 

[Gamer]

My bristlenose died.

I’m thinking of not getting a new one.

I removed my rainbow. Only because discus might not be the greatest community fish I seen that said here and I find myself agreeing with that. So I don’t think I’m going to try to stock a lot of fish in it anymore.

I got 4 Nerites and 2 SAE for algae control. If anything I can maybe up those of algae ever is an issue.

 

[MoshJosh]

My bristlenose died.

I’m thinking of not getting a new one.

I removed my rainbow. Only because discus might not be the greatest community fish I seen that said here and I find myself agreeing with that. So I don’t think I’m going to try to stock a lot of fish in it anymore.

I got 4 Nerites and 2 SAE for algae control. If anything I can maybe up those of algae ever is an issue.

The SAE in with the discus? My understanding is they can get pretty mean when they are older?

unrelated:
Here’s a few photos of the gang:


I forget when I got them, so not totally sure how old they are, maybe 8 months? Hope they color up a big more as they age, I tried some “color” pellets. . . Which they hated. . .

 

[jake37]

fly fox and cae i've heard can be a problem when older but sae are suppose to remain docile - at least mine has.

The SAE in with the discus? My understanding is they can get pretty mean when they are older?

 

[Donthemon]

I have sae and cardinals with my discus-no problems

 

[DarkOne]

SAEs aren't as aggressive but can still be a problem. They don't eat much algae as they get older.

 

[86 ssinit]

I’ve got SAE in all my big tanks. They do fine with the discus. At first the discus may stress from how fast the SAE swim but once they’ve been in the tank awhile the discus are used to the fast swimming and the discus are calmer. I think they’re a great dither fish. Temp doesn’t seem to bother them either. And yes they do t eat as much but they do still eat it. Mine are always chewing it off the leaves ends.

 

[Gamer]

https://imgur.com/a/6RKmi6T

Just sharing I hope they’re good. I just looked it appears I got them all in September. No deaths yet. These black neons are from Jack Wattley Discus. Ordered 15 but he threw in 5-7 more it’s over 25 altogether as I had a few already.

 

[Gamer]

I couldn’t edit my post but here’s a shot of when I got them in September!

also gonna add love plants I got new manzanita wood but it is not waterlogged so gotta use slate to keep underwater .

how is everyone’s discus Whether beginner, intermediate or expert ?

 

[86 ssinit]

Gamer is that a 125 they’re in now? It funny some people’s 10g look huge and 125s look tiny.
Your discus look great but you could probably need more . Mine are mostly doing good. Though 3 seem to be a little off. Water changing today and moving one into a 30qt to see if I can get it back on track. It’s a shame because this fish has great color but for some reason just isn’t eating like the others. I do believe it’s to late and it will be stunted non the less.

 

[Gamer]

I love them. Ya my pigeon blood might be a little off too right now.
Yep it could be poor photography skills or something but that’s my 125

https://imgur.com/a/TEcHdlB

I pulled the silk plants. Right now only hygro and am Anubis’s coffeefolia though.

 

[86 ssinit]

No not skill I think it’s just because we move back to get the whole tank.
Now if that was a 40b I would say those discus look small but being a 125 I’m guessing they are at the 4+” size.

 

[Gamer]

No not skill I think it’s just because we move back to get the whole tank.
Now if that was a 40b I would say those discus look small but being a 125 I’m guessing they are at the 4+” size.

yes except for one we call “Little Stripey” because he’s always got his black bars.
My largest is I want to say are 5” but my measurements may be off.

Maybe I believe in living dangerously but I had all 6 in that bare bottom 29 gallon for a good 2 weeks. Nothing but a sling filter a heater and a lot of water changes.

 

[86 ssinit]

No that’s the best way till they grow to about 4”. Much less water to change . Where did you get yours?

 

[Gamer]

Fishy Business in Longwood.

I am getting 4 more from Jack Wattley discus. Thinking 2 Marlboro and 2 yellow?
Then I want to say I’m done with the stock for awhile. Maybe a few sterbai Cory. A few black neons here and there if I ever notice the numbers dwindling .
The black neons are doing so good. I haven’t noticed a single loss.

 

[86 ssinit]

Fishy businesses is a local shop or online? If you do get more qt them for a month before adding to your discus. Also Jack isn’t as good as he used to be. I will recomended Hans discus. But again no mater who you get from you must qt your new arrivals. Many people have had major losses when adding new discus.

 

[Gamer]

Fishy business is a local fish store. He might ship too but I’ve only purchased in store.

I am looking at quarantining 4 new ones for a month then I read you need to add one fish from your established tank in with the new arrivals and make sure compatible that way?
I don’t know which one I’d like to select to be the hero of my 125.
Maybe I’ll send in the smaller angel!

 

[86 ssinit]

The smaller angel will work. But I don’t like angels with discus . Just never works. Angels are just to aggressive. But can still be used as a hero fish. First time I bought Hans discus I put them in a tank that had corys from my first group. No problems and no problems when added together.

 

[Solomonsolomon]

What's up guys, I'm new and here is my Angelfish and Discus tank, it's a 150 gallon and had it running for three years.
Just finished water change
Feels great after the change

 

[86 ssinit]

Welcome to fishlore! Great looking tank! Looks like a dark angel amongst your discus? And a golden wonder killifish. What is the temp of your tank?

 

[Solomonsolomon]

Thanks! I

Welcome to fishlore! Great looking tank! Looks like a dark angel amongst your discus? And a golden wonder killifish. What is the temp of your tank?

Thanks, I set it at about 85.

 

[86 ssinit]

How long have you had the killifish? I have one in my community tank. It’s old! 5+. I’ve got it at 78-79 and that was supposed to be above it’s limit. 85 wow! Did you put it in young? Killifish can adjust to a lot of different conditions.

 

[Solomonsolomon]

How long have you had the killifish? I have one in my community tank. It’s old! 5+. I’ve got it at 78-79 and that was supposed to be above it’s limit. 85 wow! Did you put it in young? Killifish can adjust to a lot of different conditions.

Yes.... Three years already... I also found out my discus and angels get along pretty well...

 

[86 ssinit]

Yeah I’m just not a fan of keeping them together. Discus tend to get stress bars and angels can get nasty.
Wow the killifish is a surprise. Great fish for the top of a tank. I had 2the female passed. When I put the fish in there 90 I took from 2 tanks. Angels were from one killis from the other. Angels would constantly hit the killis from below. Went on for 2 days. Than I watched both killis dive below the angels and attack them. Angels never bothered them again. One of the funniest and strangest thing I’ve seen happen in a tank.

 

[Solomonsolomon]

Angels and Discus

 

[Gamer]

That is a truly good collection of fish. I love them, I’ve had angels pair in smaller aquariums. I had to remove them or evacuate the entire tank because one pair can terrorize the whole stock while guarding their eggs. Yours look exceptionally beautiful.

rainbowfish at the top?

 

[Solomonsolomon]

That is a truly good collection of fish. I love them, I’ve had angels pair in smaller aquariums. I had to remove them or evacuate the entire tank because one pair can terrorize the whole stock while guarding their eggs. Yours look exceptionally beautiful.

rainbowfish at the top?

Thanks! That's golden wonder killifish.

 

[86 ssinit]

You’ve got a great looking tank! How often do you water change and how much? What type of filter system? Your breaking all the rules !!! It’s great to see a tank like yours. You’ve got everything but plants! I see a goldfish. They are great for eating other fishs waste. Also a young clown loach. Most would say they are to aggressive at feeding times and the discus would be timid with it constantly attacking the food. What else is in there? Where did you get your discus?

 

[Solomonsolomon]

You’ve got a great looking tank! How often do you water change and how much? What type of filter system? Your breaking all the rules !!! It’s great to see a tank like yours. You’ve got everything but plants! I see a goldfish. They are great for eating other fishs waste. Also a young clown loach. Most would say they are to aggressive at feeding times and the discus would be timid with it constantly attacking the food. What else is in there? Where did you get your discus?

Once a week about 30%, I use a SunSun Canister Filter + wet and dry also two sponge filters with power heads, the loaches works out fine in my tank, but if they get bigger I will sell them, I travel to 5 different LFS to get my Angels and Discus in Los Angeles area, the gold fish is just a gift from my six years old cousin which he came all the time checking out the tank......
Two Trumpet knifefish 12 inches

 

[86 ssinit]

Do you qt them before you add them to your tank? If so how long.
Well please stick around! Your tank is a success story to be told! Everybody want a tank like that. Would bring more people into keeping discus.
Me I’m changing 50% every other day in the new tank and every 2 days in the older tank.
Do your fish breed in the tank? Angels or discus?

 

[Solomonsolomon]

Two Trumpet knifefish 12 inches

Do you qt them before you add them to your tank? If so how long.
Well please stick around! Your tank is a success story to be told! Everybody want a tank like that. Would bring more people into keeping discus.
Me I’m changing 50% every other day in the new tank and every 2 days in the older tank.
Do your fish breed in the tank? Angels or discus?

Wow.... So much work! I'm not much in to the breeding, just want a colorful relaxing tank......I use a 30 gallon tank to qt new fish for 15 days.

 

[jake37]

What is the temp of your tank; the plant in the foreground and lighting system ?

Once a week about 30%, I use a SunSun Canister Filter + wet and dry also two sponge filters with power heads, the loaches works out fine in my tank, but if they get bigger I will sell them, I travel to 5 different LFS to get my Angels and Discus in Los Angeles area, the gold fish is just a gift from my six years old cousin which he came all the time checking out the tank......
Two Trumpet knifefish 12 inches

 

[Gamer]

Didn’t notice the goldfish lol. Some of them are cute. I’ve seen them live with musk turtles. They look a bit out of place in with discus. But I dig your setup it’s crystal clear!

 

[jake37]

I'm more surprise the goldfish is happy at 86+

Didn’t notice the goldfish lol. Some of them are cute. I’ve seen them live with musk turtles. They look a bit out of place in with discus. But I dig your setup it’s crystal clear!

 

[86 ssinit]

Yes goldfish can adapt to the warmer water. Some discus keeper use them in their tanks for waste removal.

 

[jake37]

Don't bother siphoning just add a dozen goldfishes

Yes goldfish can adapt to the warmer water. Some discus keeper use them in their tanks for waste removal.

 

[Solomonsolomon]

Regular LED lights and fake plants, just add in those so-called lucky bamboos...

 

[coralbandit]

I am most surprised seeing the Mono sebae ..
NICE ! I have managed groups of 3 two times for over 5 years and they are a great active fish that gets big .. One of my personal favorite fish I have good memories about .
Just one in the tank ? Mine tended to really bully each other so 1 may be best ...