That is the whole thing with the "DD" . Liz knows I am not understanding genetics but there is still no way to tell by looking if a dark ram is "DD" ?
See that's the thing "D/D" is in angelfish. I don't know how it works with rams. With angels, the dark gene and the gold gene are on the same locus.
So you can have DD or D/g or g/g (the marble genes for angels are also on this same locus but we aren't talking marble right now)
Are dark and gold on the same locus on a ram as well? I don't think so personally. Because if it were, it would be nice and simple. You could use punnet squares or genetic calculators just like with angels. A DD would create 100% single darks. Regardless who it is paired with. A D/D and a D/D should make 100% D/Ds.
What I do find very interesting is that the gold rams are involved in this. It is very similar to angels in that the gold gene makes a single dark angel look like a double dark angel. So if you put a DD and a g/g together you get 100% D/g which will look almost like a double dark, because the dark gene dominates the gold gene.
So I just find it interesting that gold and dark together provide more dark with both the rams and the angels.
I am leaning towards the dark rams simply being selective breeding. Sort of like breeding
koi angels selectively to get the most vibrant color with the most coverage. The genetic code of the full coverage red koi angels is exactly the same as the genetic code for a panda koi...which has ZERO color on it. Just black and white.
bizaliz3 - I am located near the cities! Just south of the cities actually but I work a little closer to the north end of things. I'm guessing you probably don't live that far from me if you are north of downtown. I also would love to hear your recommendations on shops and I wonder if they are not some of the shops that I already visit. If I have the opportunity to buy though you and have a pair of your "legacy fish"....hey I don't know if I could pass that up!! I am so excited to get some rams in my tank I can barely stand it.
Water parameters are still all reading steady and if that continues through the end of the week I'm calling this tank cycled. As for the angelfish....I've always loved angels but never owned them. I'm afraid that with my current setup (32.5 gal tank) that I wouldn't be giving them adequate room considering I want my pair of rams and
cardinal tetras.
I just saw something about the Minnesota Aquarium Society and the auction. I would love to go but I can't seem to find anything about the date/time on the website...do I need to be a member to see that info?
The auction last week was a bust. So you didn't miss anything. But the one in October is an all day auction on a Saturday and there is always a huge turnout for the October auction. All the people itching to get back into the hobby after taking a break over the summer. Go to the MN aquarium society website for more details on that.
But ya, if you are interested in a pair or two of my rams, let me know!! I've got a few pairs left!
I'll send you a PM about the stores and stuff so we don't bother the non-Minnesotans. haha
Oh and as for the angels....I think a 32g is ok for a single angel, a school of
tetras and a pair of rams. But no pressure! haha
EDIT: Never mind!! I can't PM you because you haven't had 50 posts yet....so here is what I said but wasn't able to send...
I love finding local people here! its so rare. There are a ton of east coasters here. But not many Midwesterners.
My favorite store at the moment is Quality Aquatics. Its has the best selection with the best prices and a super clean environment.
I also like Forest Lake Pets a lot.
Tamed waters is a nice shop, but pretty small.
There are a few shops south of the cities over on the Minneapolis side that I don't go to because they are just too far for me.
But Quality aquatics is the best in my opinion.
I live in Little Canada which borders Roseville. If you are interested in getting some rams, let me know!
