55 Gallon Asian Community and Aquascape

[Fishadict512]

Hello everyone! I want to keep a journal of my journey building up my 55-gallon tank, so other people can follow along with what I did as a guide. This tank is strictly Asian, with as many elements from that area. Here is what has already happened.

-I bought the tank for $50 at Walmart. It was a steal, so I drove to a far-out Walmart. The brand is aquaculture. The tank itself is pretty decent. The silicone is pretty messy, but that's my only complaint so far. I got it last week.
-I got the stand two days ago. It also came from Walmart, and its brand is Dextrus. It was $110. It was supposed to take about a week to get here, but it got it early. It is very cheaply made and most of the screw holes didn't line up. I had to drill holes into the stand for the shelf because they drilled the holes for the pins backward. The paint on the metal is already chipping up. I don't recommend this stand, but it was a cheap option and I'm on a tight budget.
-I bought of equipment from Amazon and Chewy yesterday. I will update as it comes. A lot of it will come tomorrow, so expect an update!
-So far, I've only gotten the rocks. They are Ohko stones, and are the cheapest you can buy from Amazon. I spent about $60 on 36.4 pounds. They are super messy and full of clay. 5 hours of scrubbing with a toothbrush and skewers, and I'm only 50% done. I mostly got rubble, so I bought some glue to make longer pieces.
-I should be getting aquascaping tools today, but they haven't come, and it's getting late. I will update if they come tomorrow.

I am going on vacation soon, so I won't fill up with water until I'm back.

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! A few updates today.

-I did get the aquascaping tools yestrday. The brand is Neptonion. I think I spent $30 on it and it has 6 tools (3 type scissors, two tweezers, & one two sided algae scraper) and a plastic rack. One of the scissors screw was to long so it wouldn't go in the plastic rack, so I widened the hole a bit. Another problem was that the rack only goes on 1/2 inch rim and mine is 1 inch. I will be putting it on some wood and mounting it on the wall.
-Cleaning more ohko stones. So far I've spent 8 hours on it. I'm estimating I'll have to spend 11 hours cleaning these dang rocks. I hope it's worth it as my back is killing me.
-I got the full API Master Test kit. I am glad to finally have a place to store loose bottles. The kit looked so much bigger in the pictures lol. Cost about $30 as its on sale right now.
-Got my frosted background! The brand is Current USA, the size I got was 48 inch plus, and it cost $70. The controller and receiver have to be very close for it to work. I havent put the fost on the tank yet. Was busy cleaning rocks.
-Got two out of three bags of gravel. Amazon has seemed to have to lost the last bag. They are Midnight pearl gravel and cost $25 for each 20 pound bag. More rocks for me to clean…yay…
-Got aquarium glue. The brand is Bondtech and it was like $4 for a pack of two. Not much to write about here, other than the manufacturing date on the box was a year ago lol.
-On a more personal note, I went to the doctor today becaue my ear was bothering me. Apparently, I have an ear infection.

Have a fishtastic day! (or night for me)
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Just some minor updates today.

-Cleaning more ohko stone. I'm finally done with cleaning them. It took me about 12 hours. The quality of my cleaning was slowly going downhill, so I will probally have cloudy water.
-Cleaned the gravel. for being triple washed they are pretty dirty. I got a solid inch of substrate in the tank. Can't wait for them to fnd the missing bag.
-Applied background. At first I put it on backward (instructions are vague & never done before) but then corrected. It looks super cool with the back light on. I'll hopefully show pictures tomorrow!
- Tomorrow's task is gluing the rocks together. I am going be doing a WC for 5 gallon and packing tomorrow so I'm not sure how much I'll get done. If anyone has experience gluing ohko stones please share!

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Mudminnow]

If anyone has experience gluing ohko stones please share!

Not with ohko stones precisely, but I've glued together a handful of other types of rocks. What I've used is cotton cigarette filters and superglue.

There're so many cool options to consider for an Asian community tank. Are you planning to go more general or emulate a more specific biotope?

 

[Fishfur]

Hello people of FishLore! Just some minor updates today.

-Cleaning more ohko stone. I'm finally done with cleaning them. It took me about 12 hours. The quality of my cleaning was slowly going downhill, so I will probally have cloudy water.
-Cleaned the gravel. for being triple washed they are pretty dirty. I got a solid inch of substrate in the tank. Can't wait for them to fnd the missing bag.
-Applied background. At first I put it on backward (instructions are vague & never done before) but then corrected. It looks super cool with the back light on. I'll hopefully show pictures tomorrow!
- Tomorrow's task is gluing the rocks together. I am going be doing a WC for 5 gallon and packing tomorrow so I'm not sure how much I'll get done. If anyone has experience gluing ohko stones please share!

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

The main issues with gluing any rock to any other rock are making sure the surfaces to be joined are very clean and that they are flat & even.

Any dust or debris will greatly weaken the bond as will any gaps between the surfaces.

Most glues you can safely use in a fish tank simply can’t fill gaps & any gaps will severely weaken the bond if in fact the surfaces bond at all.

Super glue is popular for good reasons and it excels at resisting vertical forces. Unfortunately, it sucks at resisting shear forces - they are superglue’s nemesis. Super glue can’t resist shear forces very well.

Use it to attach a rock to the side of another rock & it may hold for a bit, but not for long. Used to keep one rock firmly on top of another & it’ll last a long time.,

That’s where Mudminnow’s tip about cigarette filters fits into the picture - the filter material will help fill gaps so the surfaces meet up better. Cotton & the more common cellulose filter material react with superglues to form a strong bond if enough surface is involved to allow it.

But it still won’t resist shear forces very well.

Ohko, (aka dragonstone) is very challenging to glue because its surfaces are so extremely irregular, plus it has all those little pockets & tiny caves that tend to contain sand, grit & dirt.

The softer material that is the reason for all those irregular cavities also breaks rather easily so it needs some careful handling.

There are a couple of ways around the problems aside from cigarette filters.

One involves cutting the stones so you have very flat & even surfaces to join together. But not everyone has the necessary tools or the desire to cut stones.

The other way is to use a nifty heat mouldable plastic to make the joins.

The material has been around quite some time but using it to build aquarium hardscape is a pretty new application for it.

The ‘glue’ is a thermoplastic that’s very sticky when it’s softened. It’ll stick tightly to just about anything including stone & wood.

It hardens almost instantly to create a very strong, very stable bond. It is also an excellent gap filling material, so very irregular surfaces are not a problem.

It’s clear when melted but hardens to an opaque white. Handily, it can be coloured to make it match up fairly well with the stone if the joint can’t be completely hidden.

It can be melted and hardened over & over & over again. So unlike any other ‘glue’, it’s reusable a number of times and you can disassemble your pieces if need be, which is not possible with any other glue.

Melt with hot water or with careful use of a heat gun or even a hair dryer. You’ll probably want gloves as the stuff is quite hot for the first minute or so.

Reheat to adjust the positioning if you’re not happy with the first attempt.

GlasGarten offers this substance under the name ‘Hardscape Fix’. It comes in a very small jar at a stiff price,

It can be had for a good bit less cost under other brand names and some offer a sort of a starter kit that includes tinted pellets you can use to colour it.

Brand names include Polydoh, Polymorph & others. Amazon carries an assortment of brands of this stuff - which was marketed a few decades ago as ‘Friendly Plastic’.

Regardless of brand name, it’s all the same stuff - polycaprolactone plastic. I am not very fond of plastic overall but this stuff is hard to beat for building aquarium hardscape especially with stone as irregular as dragonstone is..

For surfaces that are flat & meet up closely, original gorilla brown glue is very good. It is 100% waterproof & nontoxic once cured.

Joins made with it need to have pressure applied for several hours or overnight to bond well.

But it need not be a clamp that applies the pressure, though a band clamp may work very well if you happen to have one.,

If mot, duck or packaging tape can do a nice job of applying pressure with irregular shapes & tape is easily removed afterward. Elastic such as bungee cords can serve pretty well too.

 

[Fishadict512]

Not with ohko stones precisely, but I've glued together a handful of other types of rocks. What I've used is cotton cigarette filters and superglue.

There're so many cool options to consider for an Asian community tank. Are you planning to go more general or emulate a more specific biotope?

I'm trying to go for more genral, but a lot of fish come from SE Asia.

The main issues with gluing any rock to any other rock are making sure the surfaces to be joined are very clean and that they are flat & even.

Any dust or debris will greatly weaken the bond as will any gaps between the surfaces.

Most glues you can safely use in a fish tank simply can’t fill gaps & any gaps will severely weaken the bond if in fact the surfaces bond at all.

Super glue is popular for good reasons and it excels at resisting vertical forces. Unfortunately, it sucks at resisting shear forces - they are superglue’s nemesis. Super glue can’t resist shear forces very well.

Use it to attach a rock to the side of another rock & it may hold for a bit, but not for long. Used to keep one rock firmly on top of another & it’ll last a long time.,

That’s where Mudminnow’s tip about cigarette filters fits into the picture - the filter material will help fill gaps so the surfaces meet up better. Cotton & the more common cellulose filter material react with superglues to form a strong bond if enough surface is involved to allow it.

But it still won’t resist shear forces very well.

Ohko, (aka dragonstone) is very challenging to glue because its surfaces are so extremely irregular, plus it has all those little pockets & tiny caves that tend to contain sand, grit & dirt.

The softer material that is the reason for all those irregular cavities also breaks rather easily so it needs some careful handling.

There are a couple of ways around the problems aside from cigarette filters.

One involves cutting the stones so you have very flat & even surfaces to join together. But not everyone has the necessary tools or the desire to cut stones.

The other way is to use a nifty heat mouldable plastic to make the joins.

The material has been around quite some time but using it to build aquarium hardscape is a pretty new application for it.

The ‘glue’ is a thermoplastic that’s very sticky when it’s softened. It’ll stick tightly to just about anything including stone & wood.

It hardens almost instantly to create a very strong, very stable bond. It is also an excellent gap filling material, so very irregular surfaces are not a problem.

It’s clear when melted but hardens to an opaque white. Handily, it can be coloured to make it match up fairly well with the stone if the joint can’t be completely hidden.

It can be melted and hardened over & over & over again. So unlike any other ‘glue’, it’s reusable a number of times and you can disassemble your pieces if need be, which is not possible with any other glue.

Melt with hot water or with careful use of a heat gun or even a hair dryer. You’ll probably want gloves as the stuff is quite hot for the first minute or so.

Reheat to adjust the positioning if you’re not happy with the first attempt.

GlasGarten offers this substance under the name ‘Hardscape Fix’. It comes in a very small jar at a stiff price,

It can be had for a good bit less cost under other brand names and some offer a sort of a starter kit that includes tinted pellets you can use to colour it.

Brand names include Polydoh, Polymorph & others. Amazon carries an assortment of brands of this stuff - which was marketed a few decades ago as ‘Friendly Plastic’.

Regardless of brand name, it’s all the same stuff - polycaprolactone plastic. I am not very fond of plastic overall but this stuff is hard to beat for building aquarium hardscape especially with stone as irregular as dragonstone is..

For surfaces that are flat & meet up closely, original gorilla brown glue is very good. It is 100% waterproof & nontoxic once cured.

Joins made with it need to have pressure applied for several hours or overnight to bond well.

But it need not be a clamp that applies the pressure, though a bald clamp may work very well if you happen to have one.,

If mot, duck or packaging tape can do a nice job of applying pressure with irregular shapes & tape is easily removed afterward. Elastic such as bungee cords can serve pretty well too.

Thanks! I will look into it. Is it safe for plants to grow on/ near?

Should I just scape with the little rocks I have? Do you happen to have a picture of someone scaping with little rocks in a big tank?

 

[A201]

I use Sechem's Reef Glue when dealing with aquarium stuff. It's manufactured to hold underwater things together.

I think you got a pretty good deal on your rocks, but next time check out your local commercial rockyard. You'll usually find much cheaper prices as well as a huge selection of rocks of all different sizes. That way next time you might not need to glue rocks together.

Years ago I bought nearly 200 lbs. of honeycomb limestone from a couple of nearby rock yards. I paid between 25 - 35 cents per pound.
Some of those rocks are huge and would sell for at least $200 a piece or more.

I'm looking forward to seeing your Asian themed tank. My main tank is currently Asian themed. Lots of Barbs & Loaches as well as rocks, driftwood and gravel.

 

[Fishadict512]

I use Sechem's Reef Glue when dealing with aquarium stuff. It's manufactured to hold underwater things together.

I think you got a pretty good deal on your rocks, but next time check out your local commercial rockyard. You'll usually find much cheaper prices as well as a huge selection of rocks of all different sizes. That way next time you might not need to glue rocks together.

Years ago I bought nearly 200 lbs. of honeycomb limestone from a couple of nearby rock yards. I paid between 25 - 35 cents per pound.
Some of those rocks are huge and would sell for at least $200 a piece or more.

I'm looking forward to seeing your Asian themed tank. My main tank is currently Asian themed. Lots of Barbs & Loaches as well as rocks, driftwood and gravel.

I looked for a rock yard. The nearst good one is a long drive.

I think my game plan here is to go to the lfs to get 2 large pieces and fill the rest in with the small rocks. I want to creat a valley. it is $4 per pound.

 

[Fishfur]

I'm trying to go for more genral, but a lot of fish come from SE Asia.

Thanks! I will look into it. Is it safe for plants to grow on/ near?

Should I just scape with the little rocks I have? Do you happen to have a picture of someone scaping with little rocks in a big tank?

Virtually all plastics are inert & thus not a concern with respect to plants or livestock in terms of leachate or toxicity. .

That doesn’t take into account microplastic particles, which are already within us, animals & plants. It is a global problem that won’t be solved anytime soon.

All plastics contribute to it ( this includes super & polyurethane glues among others) & every plastic that’s used to make filters, filter media & all manner of other aquarium gear & decor items (never mind clothes etc.).

Unfortunately, my curiosity about how the microplastic issue will turn out will never be satisfied in what remains of my lifetime, which annoys me, but such is life.

As I get older I find things like this bug me more but not using friendly plastic to bond rocks isn’t going to make a particle of difference. Do please pardon that dreadful pun .

 

[Fishadict512]

I use Sechem's Reef Glue when dealing with aquarium stuff. It's manufactured to hold underwater things together.

I think you got a pretty good deal on your rocks, but next time check out your local commercial rockyard. You'll usually find much cheaper prices as well as a huge selection of rocks of all different sizes. That way next time you might not need to glue rocks together.

Years ago I bought nearly 200 lbs. of honeycomb limestone from a couple of nearby rock yards. I paid between 25 - 35 cents per pound.
Some of those rocks are huge and would sell for at least $200 a piece or more.

I'm looking forward to seeing your Asian themed tank. My main tank is currently Asian themed. Lots of Barbs & Loaches as well as rocks, driftwood and gravel.

Can you also post a picture of what your tank looks like?

 

[A201]

Depending on the size of your tank, consider stocking Giant Danios, Rosy Barbs, Black Diamond Barbs, Tiger Barbs, Denison Barbs & yoyo loaches.

I keep all of these Asian species together, as well as a few others, and they do really well.

Here's a pic of my tank. Sorry about the sharp angle. I tried to avoid the glare.

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Just some more minor updates.

-Amazon refunded my order of gravel...So I had to try to find somewhere else to buy it as Amazon ran out. I actually found it a few bucks cheaper at Petsmart. I went to Petsmart to pick it up and the guy gave me two 10 lbs bags. Oh well it works I guess.
-Cleaned the gravel and put it in the tank. Gave some depth to the tank.
-Going to suck it up and spend more money at the lfs and buy large ohko stones. It seems eaiser to just buy bigger ones than spend the same on making bigger ones.

I probally won't update untill I get around to the fish store.

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512
(Image 1 is yesterday and 2 is today.)

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello everyone!

If you've been wondering why I have not been around fishlore for a week, It's because I've been on vacation! I was on a cruise so I've had no cell service.

But I'm back now and more movated than ever! But I still have to unpack...

Will update when I get around to the lfs to buy those big rocks!

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Very minor update.

-Still haven't gotten the the lfs...Instead, I sepnt most of my money on random meds and other stuff I need.
-Will get around to lfs probably next month.

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Very minor update.

-Still haven't gotten the the lfs...Instead, I sepnt most of my money on random meds and other stuff I need.
-Will get around to lfs probably next month.

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

To add onto this post,

-Went to home depot to get some buckets for water changing. I got two buckets. I have nowhere to put them so they sit in front of the bookcase next to the tank.
-Bought ferts from co-op on Friday. They should be here this Tuesday.

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Lots of stuff happend!

-Got my lazy bum to the lfs to get ohko stones. Spent about $30 on exactly 8 lbs of rock.
-I got them all cleaned (unhappily). After I let them dry I found that one rock is a lot darker than the others.
-Hardscaped. Took me quite a while to finish because I kept rearranging. It's in now and looks decent.
-Ordered plants from Aquarium Plant Factory. They had everything I wanted and more. I spent a little much… $153. I'll list all plants at the bottom.
-Receved those plants 3 days later. I was out when they got delivered so they sat in the shade for a bit…
-Planted the plants! I got sent so much rotala I don't know what to do with it all. The only plant that was brown was the java moss. It looks a bit better today though.
-Filled the tank yesterday. It took my way longer than I expected. Put water in a 5 gallon home depot bucket and took out and into tank with a one gallon pitcher.
-Dosed root tabs, liquid fertilizer, and liquid ammonia
-I have the lights on a 7 hour timeframe. I have to turn off and on manually... Can't wait to get new lights.
-I accidentally got some aquarium glue on the glass. That was fun getting off.
-Cut melting leaves of some plants. Made sure to have no leaves floating.
-I realized I made a bit of an oopsie with the heater. I originally had it on the back where the frosted film is. I realized that you can't see how high the heater is even though there is a knob to ajust and there is no on light. Found out these two things are on the back of the heater, so moved it to a side.
-Currently day two in cycling. I realized tht I've never actually cycled a tank before lol.
-Tested parameters today. Ammonia 3 ppm, Nitrite 0.25 ppm, and Nitrate 25 ppm. I'm thinking the ferts caused the Nitrate to be so high.
-The filter is great! Although I'm not sure where the good bacteria will grow as there is no white circle things that I can find.

PLANTS
-Bucephalandra Sanggau Green Jade x2
-Cryptocoryne Lucens x3
-Cryptocoryne wendtii Brown x2
-Cryptocoryne wendtii Green x2
-Hygro Willow x2
-Hygrophila Difformis x3
-Java Fern x2
-Java Fern Lace Windelov x2
-Java Moss x3
-Nymphaea Stellata x2
-Rotala H'ra x4

No pictures today. I'll post them tomorrow!

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Lots of stuff happend!

-Got my lazy bum to the lfs to get ohko stones. Spent about $30 on exactly 8 lbs of rock.
-I got them all cleaned (unhappily). After I let them dry I found that one rock is a lot darker than the others.
-Hardscaped. Took me quite a while to finish because I kept rearranging. It's in now and looks decent.
-Ordered plants from Aquarium Plant Factory. They had everything I wanted and more. I spent a little much… $153. I'll list all plants at the bottom.
-Receved those plants 3 days later. I was out when they got delivered so they sat in the shade for a bit…
-Planted the plants! I got sent so much rotala I don't know what to do with it all. The only plant that was brown was the java moss. It looks a bit better today though.
-Filled the tank yesterday. It took my way longer than I expected. Put water in a 5 gallon home depot bucket and took out and into tank with a one gallon pitcher.
-Dosed root tabs, liquid fertilizer, and liquid ammonia
-I have the lights on a 7 hour timeframe. I have to turn off and on manually... Can't wait to get new lights.
-I accidentally got some aquarium glue on the glass. That was fun getting off.
-Cut melting leaves of some plants. Made sure to have no leaves floating.
-I realized I made a bit of an oopsie with the heater. I originally had it on the back where the frosted film is. I realized that you can't see how high the heater is even though there is a knob to ajust and there is no on light. Found out these two things are on the back of the heater, so moved it to a side.
-Currently day two in cycling. I realized tht I've never actually cycled a tank before lol.
-Tested parameters today. Ammonia 3 ppm, Nitrite 0.25 ppm, and Nitrate 25 ppm. I'm thinking the ferts caused the Nitrate to be so high.
-The filter is great! Although I'm not sure where the good bacteria will grow as there is no white circle things that I can find.

PLANTS
-Bucephalandra Sanggau Green Jade x2
-Cryptocoryne Lucens x3
-Cryptocoryne wendtii Brown x2
-Cryptocoryne wendtii Green x2
-Hygro Willow x2
-Hygrophila Difformis x3
-Java Fern x2
-Java Fern Lace Windelov x2
-Java Moss x3
-Nymphaea Stellata x2
-Rotala H'ra x4

No pictures today. I'll post them tomorrow!

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

Pictures!



(Initial day of planting)

(Today)

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello People of FishLore!

-I went out and bought new lights and a new lid.
-The lid is H2Pro. It unfortunately has a slight overhang, but it was very cheap. It was torture to cut the vinyl backing.
-I bought the Hygger 957 light. I set it up and heard a high-pitched noise. I am talking with hygger about this.
-A lot of plants are starting to melt and maybe rot a bit... I created another thread for help.
-I did the tank's first water change today. Changed 10 gallons. Will test the water tomorrow.

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Long time since an update.

-Some of my stem plants have been giving me a load of trouble…Stem rot. I have lost a few plants but I'm trying to keep the rest alive. I have a bunch floating so they can grow roots.
-I have so much algae. At this point, my tank is coverd in a layer of brown. I also have a bunch of hair algae growing.
-Light is decreeased to 7 hours to combat the algae
-I added more media to the filter. It doesn't exatly fit but it's really close.
-I just want to complain about my algae farm again. I checked parameters today and had some pretty high levels…That's probably a factor. Will do a WC tomorrow.
-My java ferns are already propagating! So many babies!
-I seem to have gotten a hitchhiker. I'm pretty sure he's a blaadder snail. He has a vibrant gold shell that curves to the left. He seems to be the only one.
-My water lilies have taken off! They have alread reached the top.
-I made a cool holder for my scaping tools. I'll post pictures when I remember.

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Here is my diy setup for my scaping tools. My tank's frame is too large to hang the plastic on, so I screwed the wood into the wall.




And this is my one snail (bladder snail, I think), Gary. I hope there isn't any more Garys in the tank... That could get bad fast.

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore!

-I did a water change yesterday and checked the water today.
-Parameters are 0.5-0-30
-I added about 2 ppm of ammonia today
-I will check the water tomorrow night and see how far along I am in the cycle

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore!

-I am on day two of adding 2 ppm of ammonia and it droping to near zero in 24 hrs. (about 0.1 ammonia left)
-Nitrite has stayed zero ever since a few days after I added extra stage 3 filter media.
-I don't wat to get ahead of myself, but I think I'm going to call that cycled!
-I will get some fish on the weekend, so I have time to clean up the load of hair algae.
- I think I will start with about 8 (maybe more >: D) Harleyquin Rasbora.
-After 3 weeks I will add my 2 corydoras from my 5 gal in. (I know not Asian... but I need a qt tank. And they are pretty old so I think I'll let them live out the rest of their lives in the 55.)

Have a fishtastic day! (I know I am )
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore!

-I got fish in the tank!
-They are lambchop rasbora and I got ten of em.
- I'll see if I can get some good pictures tomorrow

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512

 

[Fishadict512]

Hello people of FishLore! Long time since an update!

-The Rasboras are doing great! They are a lot less scared of movements in the room.
-I had huge hair algae explosion, so I had to give the tank a 3 day blackout.
-After the blackout, 99% of my rotala has died. ( Not because of the blackout. Mosly set rot before it.)
-I got more plants. I got some diffrent rotala, azolla, and salvinia.
-I moved my two corys over. They seem to be doing really well and appear to be ruling the tank.
-I bought 10 kuhli loches today! Their in a 5 gal qt currently. I cant wait to add them in!

Have a fishtastic day!
-Fishadict512