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Yes but you can do more biotopes with 5x20 gallons
I find I can usually stock more interesting fish in multiple smaller tanks because in a large community they also have to be mutually compatible in terms of personality, tank space and temperature and so on.

That said at least one large tank is required for the big cool stuff. I concur.
 

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And you can do more stocks.

heres my dream fishroom of 5x 20 gal

20 long
wild type betta
20 long
female betta sorority
20 long
male betta with CPD's and boraras
20 long
pair of rams or apistos with cories
20 long
Shellies!!
 

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And you can do more stocks.

heres my dream fishroom of 5x 20 gal

20 long
wild type betta
20 long
female betta sorority
20 long
male betta with CPD's and boraras
20 long
pair of rams or apistos with cories
20 long
Shellies!!
Oh multies, nice!
I would definitely do one with wild bettas too.

*whisper* I'm hoping to find some at the convention on Sunday! Will let you know what I find.
 
Here's a spin!

So I wanted to keep my current 20 long with nano sized fish (besides the ram) and I decided to look at CELESTICHTHYS ERYTHROMICRON and apparently these can interbreed with the CPD's I have! wonder what the hybrid would look like. You guys think this is a good idea?
 
Here's a spin!

So I wanted to keep my current 20 long with nano sized fish (besides the ram) and I decided to look at CELESTICHTHYS ERYTHROMICRON and apparently these can interbreed with the CPD's I have! wonder what the hybrid would look like. You guys think this is a good idea?
Oh the emerald dwarfs? Isn't one actually a hybrid bred from the other?
 

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Here's a spin!

So I wanted to keep my current 20 long with nano sized fish (besides the ram) and I decided to look at CELESTICHTHYS ERYTHROMICRON and apparently these can interbreed with the CPD's I have! wonder what the hybrid would look like. You guys think this is a good idea?
They aren't really recommended due to the fact that they may be able to hybridise. Usually people aren't for this.
 
ok so would the blue emperor tetra be better? Or are they too active for cpds?
They may be fine. Don't know too much about them. They aren't really nano though. Another nano fish I love are blue axelrodI rasbora. Stunning imo.
 
Hmmmm ok ill look into those.

I want boraras too.

Am I the only one that just realized that boraras is "rasbora" but the "ras" is at the end os it is "bora"+ "ras"?
 
Hmmmm ok ill look into those.

I want boraras too.

Am I the only one that just realized that boraras is "rasbora" but the "ras" is at the end os it is "bora"+ "ras"?
Uhhh, yes? xD Pretty obvious, no?

I love how you sometimes get so used to words you don't realise what they actually say. Like when you read a character's name wrong in a book the first time, and three rereads later you suddenly realise that's not what is written there.
So I do get the feeling

I've read the miniature rasboras, like the chilI and the phoenix are very sensitive and die easily. I have no idea if it is true - never had them - but curious if anyone here has had that experience?
 

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Uhhh, yes? xD Pretty obvious, no?

I love how you sometimes get so used to words you don't realise what they actually say. Like when you read a character's name wrong in a book the first time, and three rereads later you suddenly realise that's not what is written there.
So I do get the feeling

I've read the miniature rasboras, like the chilI and the phoenix are very sensitive and die easily. I have no idea if it is true - never had them - but curious if anyone here has had that experience?

Wait, you do that too? I've made it several books into a series before thinking a character had one name, only to be talking to someone and have them correct me on the name. I thought that was just my terrible reading skills or something.
 
Wait, you do that too? I've made it several books into a series before thinking a character had one name, only to be talking to someone and have them correct me on the name. I thought that was just my terrible reading skills or something.
Nah, this is a general thing. Our brains are trained for pattern recognition and especially when it comes to being in the flow of reading, what actually happens is that you don't read words letter-for-letter but scan the first and sometimes last letter(s) and your brain just fills in the rest based on context. When a new word is encountered (so a fantasy name for instance) the same process happens (skip reading, you read maybe half the letters), but instead of recognising the word your brain tries to fit it into a box of similar 'type' names you already know. This is how you can accidentally misread it (often vowels in the middle of the word, double consonants or the final syllable are wrongly matched with other superficially similar looking name and word patterns). Once it is saved in your brain as "a word that roughly has this shape -> it is that name", you cannot undo it and will read it like that every time.
Until some time in the future you sit down with that book after a while and having forgotten the actual names, or reading at a slower pace for once, you actually take the time to spell out the name for yourself and realise the name you had in mind is not a fit.

Or you know, you watch the movie and go "HUH?!?"
 
Nah, this is a general thing. Our brains are trained for pattern recognition and especially when it comes to being in the flow of reading, what actually happens is that you don't read words letter-for-letter but scan the first and sometimes last letter(s) and your brain just fills in the rest based on context. When a new word is encountered (so a fantasy name for instance) the same process happens (skip reading, you read maybe half the letters), but instead of recognising the word your brain tries to fit it into a box of similar 'type' names you already know. This is how you can accidentally misread it (often vowels in the middle of the word, double consonants or the final syllable are wrongly matched with other superficially similar looking name and word patterns). Once it is saved in your brain as "a word that roughly has this shape -> it is that name", you cannot undo it and will read it like that every time.
Until some time in the future you sit down with that book after a while and having forgotten the actual names, or reading at a slower pace for once, you actually take the time to spell out the name for yourself and realise the name you had in mind is not a fit.

Or you know, you watch the movie and go "HUH?!?"

Wow, thanks for the detailed explanation, that's exactly what my brain does every time. And I typically don't notice with the reread, it's pretty much always either a movie, or someone correcting me later.
 
Tetras are little jerks. There, I said it.

I'm expecting to come home with a bunch of new additions Sunday so I'm shifting some of my communities to free a large QT. Had to move out a group of bloodfin tetras from a 20 high. Heavily planted
Even after having drained the water to two inches it still took me well over an HOUR to catch them... all the while unnetting the poor cories and somehow way slower glowlights caught in the crossfire.

Edit: Can the mod that just edited my post please send me a message. I'd like to have a talk because the rules about language on this site are getting increasingly confusing to me.
 
Tetras are little jerks. There, I said it.

I'm expecting to come home with a bunch of new additions Sunday so I'm shifting some of my communities to free a large QT. Had to move out a group of bloodfin tetras from a 20 high. Heavily planted
Even after having drained the water to two inches it still took me well over an HOUR to catch them... all the while unnetting the poor cories and somehow way slower glowlights caught in the crossfire.

Edit: Can the mod that just edited my post please send me a message. I'd like to have a talk because the rules about language on this site are getting increasingly confusing to me.

I agree they can be a bit much sometimes, but it is a survival adaption. If they can’t catch you they can’t eat you.
 
Tetras are little jerks. There, I said it.

I'm expecting to come home with a bunch of new additions Sunday so I'm shifting some of my communities to free a large QT. Had to move out a group of bloodfin tetras from a 20 high. Heavily planted
Even after having drained the water to two inches it still took me well over an HOUR to catch them... all the while unnetting the poor cories and somehow way slower glowlights caught in the crossfire.

Edit: Can the mod that just edited my post please send me a message. I'd like to have a talk because the rules about language on this site are getting increasingly confusing to me.
Using "special characters" tends to be seen as profanity. So its not really tolerated. Though I feel the same way about tetras - not just because they are hard to catch. I don't see much appeal in most of them anymore.

Is there anything in particular you are going to get? I've never been to a convention myself.
 
Using "special characters" tends to be seen as profanity. So its not really tolerated. Though I feel the same way about tetras - not just because they are hard to catch. I don't see much appeal in most of them anymore.
I agree they can be a bit much sometimes, but it is a survival adaption. If they can’t catch you they can’t eat you.
Ah, no, it is more that I am very genuinely confused about what 'alternatives' are allowed and which are not. That is what I wanted to ask about (confirm whether some specific words are okay)
I guess it is a cultural difference, I'm not American (in my culture swearing is no big deal and isn't censored on tv or in songs on the radio) and my Americans friends are all adults who don't really care for such sensibilities so it is rather hard for me to judge which words that are alternatives are 'family friendly' and which are not. I deliberately did not use 'jerk' or another equivalent word because I was afraid they would be against the rules, only to see a mod edit it in. Thought completely uncognisable self-censoring would be better, but apparently these are considered worse. I will keep that in mind. Bit orwellian that censoring is censored

Also sometimes it is late and I've had a glass of wine and I'm chatting rather uncensored-ly to some other friends and flop back to FL and my U.S. censor goggles glide over the words. Whoops.

Is there anything in particular you are going to get? I've never been to a convention myself.
Really hoping they have some special labyrinth fish I have a tank ready specifically curtailed to liqorice gourami (or wild betta) and I could order a handful different ones from a wholesaler through my LFS. But would be cooler to just buy them from a breeder ^^
Also reeeeeally hoping they happen to have some quality paradise fish!
Will probably also end up buying a few new bettas (as in splendens).

Probably will end up buying some quality foods. I also still need some small LEDs for a few 5 gallons but don't want to pay premium so not sure if I will end up getting them here.

As for the rest, we'll see what is on offer
 
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I have a question, so my tank has been doing pretty good but...
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Did my Rabbit Snail somehow have babies???
 

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And assassin snails kill like assassins.

Just as long as the assassin snails don't breed like rabbits and the rabbit snails don't kill like assassins. Then what would the world be coming to?
 
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How long have you had her again? They can carry sperm for quite some time. And only release a single egg every 6 weeks. That's why they don't tend to overrun tanks.
I’ve had it since 7/12/2019.
 
Oh man, today's awesome! I got a bag of Anubias nana petite for $10 at my LFS. The bag had over 14 pieces of Anubias, which is equivalent to 3 pots from what I've been told.
 
Oh man, today's awesome! I got a bag of Anubias nana petite for $10 at my LFS. The bag had over 14 pieces of Anubias, which is equivalent to 3 pots from what I've been told.

Wow, I don't know how much Anubias costs in your area, but around here you'd be lucky to get two plants for $10!
 

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I’ve had it since 7/12/2019.
Uggghhhh. Dates are the wrong way around! Looks so wrong....

She could have been releasing an egg or two every 4-6 weeks then. There shouldn't be too many. If there is a whole army of them I would say not rabbits.
Oh man, today's awesome! I got a bag of Anubias nana petite for $10 at my LFS. The bag had over 14 pieces of Anubias, which is equivalent to 3 pots from what I've been told.
That's a bit mad! A single anubias would be 6 euro here. 25 if I want wood included......
 
Uggghhhh. Dates are the wrong way around! Looks so wrong....

She could have been releasing an egg or two every 4-6 weeks then. There shouldn't be too many. If there is a whole army of them I would say not rabbits.

That's a bit mad! A single anubias would be 6 euro here. 25 if I want wood included......

Yeah, I find the date system rather confusing too, and I've had to deal with it my whole life. That's just not the logical order to put them in.
 
got 2 anubius nana petite for 6 USD over here. CrispiI That's a good bargain right there.
 
Uggghhhh. Dates are the wrong way around! Looks so wrong....

She could have been releasing an egg or two every 4-6 weeks then. There shouldn't be too many. If there is a whole army of them I would say not rabbits.

That's a bit mad! A single anubias would be 6 euro here. 25 if I want wood included......
You need to buy from other people selling them plants in one go that have no idea (nor care) about what is in there.
I bought a whole bucket of crypto wendtii, anubias nana and java ferns for 15 euros this summer from a young couple emptying out their tank for a move. I spread them out over 4 larger tanks and put one plant each in all of my dozen bare QTs/growout tanks. Still have a 3 gallon stuffed with the leftovers (no stock cause there is no space for that).
 
You need to buy from other people selling them plants in one go that have no idea (nor care) about what is in there.
I bought a whole bucket of crypto wendtii, anubias nana and java ferns for 15 euros this summer from a young couple emptying out their tank for a move. I spread them out over 4 larger tanks and put one plant each in all of my dozen bare QTs/growout tanks. Still have a 3 gallon stuffed with the leftovers (no stock cause there is no space for that).
Wow. You all seem to have great luck with buying plants. Where do you find these people? People I've met have either had bad plants or bad prices. I've only got tanks for amazing prices. Though I haven't met many people in the hobby here.
 
Wow. You all seem to have great luck with buying plants. Where do you find these people? People I've met have either had bad plants or bad prices. I've only got tanks for amazing prices. Though I haven't met many people in the hobby here.

Same here, I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere, so no one seems to keep fish around here. I did get a full 75 gallon set up for just over 200 dollars, though, so that was pretty cool.
 
My 20 gal all expenses were 200 dollars. Not including the hand me down equipment.
 
Wow. You all seem to have great luck with buying plants. Where do you find these people? People I've met have either had bad plants or bad prices. I've only got tanks for amazing prices. Though I haven't met many people in the hobby here.
Same here, I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere, so no one seems to keep fish around here. I did get a full 75 gallon set up for just over 200 dollars, though, so that was pretty cool.
Yes, unfortunately a lot of it is down to location. It's not so much about a hobby network (which does exist over here, but I only know a handful of people) as there is just a thriving online marketplace of your average LFS buyer and both official and hobby breeders selling, buying and trading stuff. Kind of like the early days of ebay? It is a completely different environment from aquabid, even though the idea is similar. if you want to look around, but not sure if you can read much because no english version. There are hundreds of ads for both fish and equipment/tanks placed on there every day, even though they are spread throughout the country, it only takes about 4 hours to drive from the nothernmost to the southernmost point. If I'm looking for particular plants or fish, or sometimes just because, I refresh the site every hour or so and scroll through the new ads looking for bargains or quality fish. Really good ones can be gone in under that one hour.
We just have an insanely high population density, which helps with this sort of stuff. There are 6 different LFS within 15 miles of my home, and I live in one of the less populated areas.

So, that, pretty much =#
If it makes you feel better, online purchases isn't a thing here. Virtually no store will ship live fish bar one or two that ask a lot of money, because there are very strict rules for the shipping of live animals.
 
Yes, unfortunately a lot of it is down to location. It's not so much about a hobby network (which does exist over here, but I only know a handful of people) as there is just a thriving online marketplace of your average LFS buyer and both official and hobby breeders selling, buying and trading stuff. Kind of like the early days of ebay? It is a completely different environment from aquabid, even though the idea is similar. if you want to look around, but not sure if you can read much because no english version. There are hundreds of ads for both fish and equipment/tanks placed on there every day, even though they are spread throughout the country, it only takes about 4 hours to drive from the nothernmost to the southernmost point. If I'm looking for particular plants or fish, or sometimes just because, I refresh the site every hour or so and scroll through the new ads looking for bargains or quality fish. Really good ones can be gone in under that one hour.
We just have an insanely high population density, which helps with this sort of stuff. There are 6 different LFS within 15 miles of my home, and I live in one of the less populated areas.

So, that, pretty much =#
If it makes you feel better, online purchases isn't a thing here. Virtually no store will ship live fish bar one or two that ask a lot of money, because there are very strict rules for the shipping of live animals.
Well it's a good thing that I learned German in school. I can now look at that Dutch and safely say that I have enough knowledge of it to recognise it without understanding a thing. Years of study have put me in a good place after all! At least my browser auto translates it for me though.

And I agree about location. Seems aquariums aren't too popular here. The nearest aquarium shop is an hour or two away. The best I've been to is four or so away. There are sites similar to what you linked I think, that's where I get my tanks. Never seen any good fish or plant ads there though. I've tried to order online too. Nowhere in Ireland sells what I want. Places in the UK say they won't ship. My lfs orders for me, but I've been asking for more gobies for months without results.
 

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Wow, I don't know how much Anubias costs in your area, but around here you'd be lucky to get two plants for $10!
One pot cost around around $12 at my LFS.
 
Well it's a good thing that I learned German in school. I can now look at that Dutch and safely say that I have enough knowledge of it to recognise it without understanding a thing. Years of study have put me in a good place after all! At least my browser auto translates it for me though.

And I agree about location. Seems aquariums aren't too popular here. The nearest aquarium shop is an hour or two away. The best I've been to is four or so away. There are sites similar to what you linked I think, that's where I get my tanks. Never seen any good fish or plant ads there though. I've tried to order online too. Nowhere in Ireland sells what I want. Places in the UK say they won't ship. My lfs orders for me, but I've been asking for more gobies for months without results.
(How great it is to have totally pragmatically useless language skills right? This is why school-taught languages are just eh)

That is too bad, you would hope that also being in the EU would help. But too sparsely populated, I guess.
I hear Germany has a really thriving aquarium history and current business. Aquarium Glaser seem like one of the real quality wholesalers in the fish business.

Sad, though, that I wish I could just pop over and bring some. If I ever take a trip to Ireland I'll warn you in advance! ^^

Hmmm... I think the few shops that we have that do ship only do so to continental Europe and maybe the UK, but ireland is probably not on their list.
 
(How great it is to have totally pragmatically useless language skills right? This is why school-taught languages are just eh)

That is too bad, you would hope that also being in the EU would help. But too sparsely populated, I guess.
I hear Germany has a really thriving aquarium history and current business. Aquarium Glaser seem like one of the real quality wholesalers in the fish business.

Sad, though, that I wish I could just pop over and bring some. If I ever take a trip to Ireland I'll warn you in advance! ^^

Hmmm... I think the few shops that we have that do ship only do so to continental Europe and maybe the UK, but ireland is probably not on their list.
At some point in the future I'm hoping to buy a spotted congo puffer, in that case I'm going to try find if somewhere actually ships here. So fingers crossed. If it doesn't then that sucks.

From what I've seen from Germany, their aquarium hobby seems great. I was told before that if I could ship from anywhere, that may be the place.

Haha! I'm sure smuggling fish into the country will go well. Let's get on that! Jk

I've since been browsing the site I mentioned earlier. That was a mistake. I've been seeing some nice tanks there......
 
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No clue what is on my tanks glass.
Almost like worm shaped?
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Is it moving? Could just be a type of algae.

>> back from the convention Guess who spent waaaaay too much money?
Nope the flow seems to be the only thing moving it.

What did you buy?
 
No clue what is on my tanks glass.
Almost like worm shaped?
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Nope the flow seems to be the only thing moving it.

What did you buy?
I used to get things like this. Either algae or debris. I would wipe it off and it would come back. I got rid of it by wiping and then sucking it out. I also stopped feeding so much and made sure to do a good job cleaning the filter and water changing. That's if its the same thing.
>> back from the convention Guess who spent waaaaay too much money?
Spill the beans.
 
Is it moving? Could just be a type of algae.

>> back from the convention Guess who spent waaaaay too much money?

Yeah, if you're going to spend too much money, you really need to show off what you got from it.
 

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