Dead guppy other fish gasping

Yeah we aren’t getting ay other fish. Just a few shrimp. I’m not trying to start an argument but quite a few people consider 2.5 gallons to be the minimum. Not saying a plakat or anything. But he has huge fins. I could potentially get my mom to get another 5 but she wouldn’t like it. I mean using the same plants and such it wouldnt cost a lot but still…
Those people are wrong, you definitely shouldn't keep any fish in a 2.5 gallon. I have a 5 gallon myself and I couldn't imagine imprisoning any fish in a space half that size.

What sort of shrimp are they? They're likely to become dinner for the betta if they're cherries.
 

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Blue dreams. They are going in the other side.
How tall is the divider? Is there water flow between them? If the answer is yes, shrimp will get to the other side and end up as lunch for the betta. They have legs and will find themselves everywhere in the tank unless the divider reaches several inches out of the water. Bettas are more predatory than similar-sized fish and will actively go for fry, shrimp and eggs they find that aren't their own. Small shrimp like neocaridina will in all likelihood be gladly on the menu for them, especially in such a small space where they might not be able to hide.
 
The problem with a 2.5 gallon tank is that it really only holds less then that, maybe 1.75g. Unless your mom is doing multiple water changes a week it’s very hard to keep that size tank stable, and tough to cycle a tank that size. I agree a 5g minimum and again, a 5g really only holds maybe 4g water but that’s a lot better. I know fish stores sell these tiny little aquariums for bettas but thats more about marketing. Try and convince her it’s better and kinder for her fish.

Bettas are super inquisitive fish. I have mine in a 20g with some neon tetras and he spends all day moving around and searching the tank for food. It’s full of plants and places to hide and forage about.

Betta’s all have different personalities. My last betta lived with a tank full of cherry shrimp. When I added them to the current tank he searched out and killed every single one of them. Saw them as food.
would it stress out the other fish? I’d rather not medicate the whole tank but the only “qt” I could use is a 1 gallon that the guppy was in. And for 4 endlers that could be bad dont you think?
I’d medicate the whole tank for parasites. Praziquantel is pretty mild when used as directed and then you’ll know all your fish are parasite free starting out.
 
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i will but I honestly don’t think she will. I’ll try

Okay I will medicate the whole tank. Im not arguing medicating the tank just saying that the seller pre quarantines.
 
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The betta is acting lethargic and seems to have a slight cloudy eye. What should I do? I gave him the first Dose of general cure yesterday (got behind). I think it was a little underdosed because I did it stupidly. I didn’t want to over dose though. What now? Continue as is? Dose the rest of general cure? He isn’t eating great but am still trying to make him eat more. Advice?
 

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The betta is acting lethargic and seems to have a slight cloudy eye. What should I do? I gave him the first Dose of general cure yesterday (got behind). I think it was a little underdosed because I did it stupidly. I didn’t want to over dose though. What now? Continue as is? Dose the rest of general cure? He isn’t eating great but am still trying to make him eat more. Advice?
I would get some freeze dried blood worms. Add a very small pinch of the meds to an ounce or so of water, stir well. Then soak/stir the worms in the medicated water for about ten minutes or so. This gets the meds in the food. Hopefully he will eat.
 
Okay thanks. I dont know if I can get the bloodworms though. would daphnia work? I dont have garlic flavor stuff can I make it somehow to see if it will make him eat more?
Anything dried should work. What you are simply doing is rehydrating the food with medicine in the water.
You can do it with flake food too, it's just more work. Make a paste with the med water, spread it out on something like aluminum foil to make one big flake. Put it in the oven on low like 200f or just let it dry. Then you can break it up to feed.
I've had good luck with an eating fish both ways.
 
The betta is acting lethargic and seems to have a slight cloudy eye. What should I do? I gave him the first Dose of general cure yesterday (got behind). I think it was a little underdosed because I did it stupidly. I didn’t want to over dose though. What now? Continue as is? Dose the rest of general cure? He isn’t eating great but am still trying to make him eat more. Advice?
I thought you were going to treat him days ago? General cure wouldn’t be my first choice for cloudy eye but since you started it, I’d finish the round and see how he looks. That medicine will work through his skin and gills. It doesn’t have to be mixed with food but is fine if you do.

Daphnia is good and they love blood worms. I don’t know where you live but you can buy frozen blood worms in cubes and thaw out one and feed a couple worms twice a day. It’s pure protein and they’re carnivores and need very few betta pellets.
 

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I got behind on the medicine. Bad me. I need to give him the rest tonight. What causes cloudy eyes?
 
Cloudy eye is usually caused by aerobic bacterial diseases and the metro in the general cure treats anaerobic bacterial diseases. Hopefully it will have an effect on that but if its being caused by this other bacteria it won’t work well.
 
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Okay thanks for the info. We will definitely try to get him a bigger tank in a few months. me and my dad talked it out. Maybe a 10g or so and a tank mate perhaps. Or we might try to remove the divider sooner.
 
Okay thanks for the info. We will definitely try to get him a bigger tank in a few months. me and my dad talked it out. Maybe a 10g or so and a tank mate perhaps. Or we might try to remove the divider sooner.
That would be great. Some tetras can be ok tank mates with bettas of the less aggressive varieties like black neons or cardinals. Some varieties like black skirt can be fin nippers so do your research.
 
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Oh thanks. I was wrong the divider is silicones in so I could cut it out but my mom doesn’t want me to. will he be okay for a few months? It has to be better than a cup. Heated and filtered. WCs and plants. Oh so many plants. Lol. Maybe when/if she gets a new tank I can take the five and cut the divider. Sounds like a killifish tank to me. :). On an unrelated and cool note I am going to a new LFS soon. Will be picking up bloodworms. His eye doesn’t seem cloudy. Shows little internet in food though.
 
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Frozen bloodworms acquired, we noticed the heater wasnt working. 72 not 78 would that make him not eat and lethargic?
 
Oh no. 78 would definitely be better. 72 isn’t very warm but no, I don’t think that would make him lethargic on it’s own.

Wiggle the bloom worm around if you can to get his attention. They normally love them! I give mine 2 twice a day.
 
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He ate two last night. Progress. He completely ignored it last time. Yah aqueon preset heaters suck. Will get a new one soon. What’s a cheap fairly reliable one? Then why is he lethargic. It’s not terrible but he’s definitely lethargic.
 
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