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This is going to be a question for people that have been fish keeping since before the internet took over the world.

How the heck did you possibly run a successful tank without information so readily available as us spoiled people nowadays.

Cycling, water changes, medicating etc...
I'm just curious to hear some stories from the veterans of the hobby!!
 

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Just as everything else was done before the internet, it was mostly through trial and error. We are all definitely very spoiled by having all this information right at our fingertips now.
 

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We had local fish stores, who sold nothing but live fish, aquariums, and supplies. I would hang out in the fish stores, and pick the brains of the owners. There is nothing like browsing a dark store, with isles upon isles of beautiful aquariums, filled with beautiful, quality fish. You could easily spend an hour or more chatting with other hobbiests. I also had a pretty extensive library of books on tropical fish. A lot of it was trial and error, but mostly I would follow the advise of fish store owners. When Pet Smart became a thing, most of the local fish stores in my area didn't survive, which is unfortunate. You can't find quality fish at the big box chain stores like you could at your local fish store. I really miss having the small, independent stores to do business with.
 
This is going to be a question for people that have been fish keeping since before the internet took over the world.

How the heck did you possibly run a successful tank without information so readily available as us spoiled people nowadays.

Cycling, water changes, medicating etc...
I'm just curious to hear some stories from the veterans of the hobby!!

To some extent, it may have been easier without the MANY different opinions folks find on the Internet about most every subject in fishkeeping.
 
Yep, as mentioned, local fish stores/pet stores and lots of books.
I don’t have any now because all the ones I used were actually library books that I had to return. Our mother took us to the library every week!
 
I did try my luck way back then with an aquarium. I did enjoy it while it lasted, but like your saying I had no way of learning except for books and mags of which I never purchased. I didn't buy fish for the tank, I caught them locally, it was really cool at first but later turned out being a horror film. I gave up on it and gave the tank away. But this was way, way, way, back there when I was twenty something. You remember those days, when candy bars cost a nickel.
 

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I was just starting with the hobby when the internet really took over and forums were a thing. I would also rely on the fish store employees for info and everything I 'need' to start out. When I discovered fish forums, I was blown away with all the available info and took advantage of it. With what I know now, I look back and wonder how I kept fish alive. I really don't think I learned about the nitrogen cycle until the forums. Crazy to think.
 
There were these things called books written by actual fish experts. Not that I read one before getting some fish, but I did later on. lol
 
Yep lots of trips to the library or bookstore. I still have the books I bought! One is a 2 inch thick book of Aquarium fish.
 
There were these things called books written by actual fish experts. Not that I read one before getting some fish, but I did later on. lol
True haha!
But I never thought to look for info on the nitrogen cycle.
 
Never heard of the nitrogen cycle till I joinEd here. Always fish in cycle. Almost 20 years later was at a discus symposium in the 90s and got into a discussion about wether or not you could start a tank without fish. It was just a science experiment. Was shocked when I read here that it’s a serious option.
Fish keeping was less informed back than. Most info came from pet store owners. I started at around 12. Nobody used meds (to expensive) it was aquarium salt. Still don’t use any meds . Funny the aquaclear hob filter was my first hob and they still make them. Before that it was a coner filter with floss and charcoal fed by an air pump. Heaters had sand in them. Lighting was incandescent. Very hard to grow plants. Very few plants available. Nobody did water changes. Once a month was enough. 6 of a kind was never heard of. I use to have one of each. Best you did was look in your book to see if they could stay in the same temp water. Lot of hit and miss. Good times . No rules.
 

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I heard of the "cycle" as fish stores told you how to do it wrong! I never knew of the real way to do until I came here. Books explain the process but don't tell you how to do it!!!!
 
Very early on I found fish clubs, where you had people who had been keeping fish for decades before I started, and folks who specialized in certain types of fish that were almost never seen in stores - KILLIFISH!!! But I also loved the other types of fish. Pretty much everything fascinated me. The books told me where the fish came from, but the people I met told me how they lived in the wild. Some of these people actually went and collected fish, you see. I guess I lucked into meeting the right people at the right time.

Most of the people I knew were big water changers. However, these were people who bred fish. The general consensus among community tank people was that once a month, and then only if it looked dirty. I think the fact that community tanks actually can get by with fewer water changes caused this attitude. The limits quoted for Nitrates these days are from the Marine hobby, where the fish really are much more sensitive to those chemicals. In FW, the tolerance can be nearly 5-6 times as much for most of your common species, without harm.

The term "nitrogen cycle" didn't even really enter the freshwater hobby until the 80s or early 90s. It came in with some of the Malawian Cichlid keeping. Someone had noticed the similarity between these and Marine environments. Marine keepers were already "cycling" their tanks with live sand and live rock before overloading them with fish. Malawi tanks, with their lack of vegetation, presented a similar opportunity. How it managed to spread to the community tank hobby I do not know, but in a relatively short time everyone was convinced that it was necessary. I suspect that the advent of the Internet was somehow related. (IMO, it was not and is not always necessary.) It was in the late 90s that they first started marketing bottled bacteria for FW. It had to be kept refrigerated, but the marketing said it would "instantly" start the cycle in an aquarium. Some tests showed it doing just that; others, not so much. Again, there are other factors that probably made it work inconsistently.

Both then and now, the most important route to knowledge is people. Back then, the really good people were fewer, but more widespread. With the Internet, there are perhaps too many people, and it is difficult for the beginner to choose the right path. You will have to go down a couple of them for yourself to see where they lead. If it leads to fortune, you can learn from it. If it leads to disaster, you can learn even more.
 
I've been in the fish hobby quite some time but when I very first started we just kinda went all in. Trusted the pet store, if things didn't work we tried again. I didn't know about the nitrogen cycle or anything like that for the longest time.

My first tank was a hot mess, I had a 10g tank it had angel fish, kissing gourami, balloon mollies, common pleco, a betta, a few random tetras and guppies.

Everything is so much easier now as we can really research individual fish needs!

EDIT: ....now that I'm thinking about it I also had catfish in that tank.....not like cory cats either they were blue channels and such
 
Yep. A lot of trial and error. Everything from setting the tank up to begin with to mixing fish i probably shouldn't have...took me awhile to figure out my tetras were disappearing because my catfish would eat them when i was at work overnight...
 
Before internet!??!? I thought internet was made in 1764! Nothing was before! Right?
 
We used books. Talked to people at the LFS. Went to trade shows. But mainly BOOKS!

Ok, admittedly, in Germany we had a wide variety of books since the early sixties and in the nineties when I started there were libraries worth of books. You might know some of the authors and some pioneers of fishkeeping from fish names: Hans Baensch, Rüdiger Riehl, Hans J. Mayland...
 
When I started we did not have test kits and all the fancy stuff they have today and I bred angles,disks and kribs before they really took on, and books lots of books, I have mainly reverted back to way I took care of tanke before the internet, I use no test kits anymore, once your tank is established and you keep it clean and stay on top of your water changes you should be fine, I run 16 tank the "old way" for years, I do have and use my TDS meter.
 
I started this journey with a 10 gallon tank and the leaflet that came in the kit long before the internet was a thing. It didn't call what I was doing a nitrogen cycle but did stress the importance of fresh clean water. I bought a test for ammonia and pH. If I saw ammonia I did a water change. I knew nothing about nitrites or nitrates. Once I no longer saw ammonia I knew I could cut down on water changes but the habit of changing water was deeply ingrained in me thus the 50% weekly water changes most of y'all have seen me post often. Once a tank is established testing the water usually isn't necessary. I just assume my 50% water changes each week and once monthly change out more keeps the numbers in the safe zone.
 
When I started we did not have test kits and all the fancy stuff they have today and I bred angles,disks and kribs before they really took on, and books lots of books, I have mainly reverted back to way I took care of tanke before the internet, I use no test kits anymore, once your tank is established and you keep it clean and stay on top of your water changes you should be fine, I run 16 tank the "old way" for years, I do have and use my TDS meter.
What is a TDS meter?
 
I started this journey with a 10 gallon tank and the leaflet that came in the kit long before the internet was a thing. It didn't call what I was doing a nitrogen cycle but did stress the importance of fresh clean water. I bought a test for ammonia and pH. If I saw ammonia I did a water change. I knew nothing about nitrites or nitrates. Once I no longer saw ammonia I knew I could cut down on water changes but the habit of changing water was deeply ingrained in me thus the 50% weekly water changes most of y'all have seen me post often. Once a tank is established testing the water usually isn't necessary. I just assume my 50% water changes each week and once monthly change out more keeps the numbers in the safe zone.
I have only been fishkeeping for a four plus years now and using the API Master Test Kit. After awhile I would stop testing for ph, ammonia, and nitrites. But I went on testing for nitrates, just to help figure out water changes. Well having to use ten drops each of the nitrate test bottles, I ran out of it, but still have plenty left in the rest of the bottles. Anyway I ordered another complete test kit just to get the nitrate test bottles.
 

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This is going to be a question for people that have been fish keeping since before the internet took over the world.

How the heck did you possibly run a successful tank without information so readily available as us spoiled people nowadays.

Cycling, water changes, medicating etc...
I'm just curious to hear some stories from the veterans of the hobby!!
Old timers,I have an old friend of the family in his mid 80s full of fish info and he still keeps and breeds like 40 or so tanks this man is a walking fish almanac to the point where some of the things he tells me are almost unbelievable
 
I have only been fishkeeping for a four plus years now and using the API Master Test Kit. After awhile I would stop testing for ph, ammonia, and nitrites. But I went on testing for nitrates, just to help figure out water changes. Well having to use ten drops each of the nitrate test bottles, I ran out of it, but still have plenty left in the rest of the bottles. Anyway I ordered another complete test kit just to get the nitrate test bottles.

If you are going to continue testing the nitrates you may want to cut the number of drops and amount of water in test tube in half. By doing so you can do twice as many tests with your new bottles. I tested it to make sure I got the same results and I did. I do the same with the ammonia test.
 
If you are going to continue testing the nitrates you may want to cut the number of drops and amount of water in test tube in half. By doing so you can do twice as many tests with your new bottles. I tested it to make sure I got the same results and I did. I do the same with the ammonia test.
You can do that!!!, cool. Thanks mattgirl..
 
Back in the day we use to pass around stone tablets that had lists of the best fish for a 10 gallon tank.
 
I almost forgot something really important: We had the DATZ, the "Deutsche Aquarien und Terrarien Zeitschrift" (German Aquarium and Terrarium Journal). The L- and C-Number system was introduced by them.
 

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