Nart's Lagoon Build - Round 2!!! - Page 3

grantm91
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Fine tuning it and making a container would be a project haha, is it the reef glass nano? It would look great in your tank, all bubling and shiny.
 
Nanologist
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Just sourced the materials I'd need to make the exact same thing. I have an air pump, air tubing, and flow regulator already. It's less than $20 to buy a 1.25" Pyrex tube, rubber stopper with 2 holes, an airline fitting, the wood airstone, and a much nicer magnetic clip instead of the hang-on-rI'm bracket.

I was reading up on this particular style of skimmer though and it produces a slightly wet skI'm which required more top offs, so I'll probably just stay away from a skimmer all together. It's a 10 gallon afterall... I wouldn't be doing my job during weekly maintenance if I needed a skimmer on a tank this size!
 
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Nart
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Yeah - this particular style of skimmer does skI'm on the wet side. Definitely not needed in a small system, but if you were itching to DIY something...
I might make one for my 10G or... a GFO reactor.
 
Nanologist
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Although, in relation to the discussion on my build thread, I may not have so much GHA at the moment if I was running a skimmer or some sort of nutrient export!

A reactor that I can put on the side of the tank or stand is something I've really been debating. Definitely liking the sounds of a GFO reactor now that I'm seeing GHA...
 
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Nart
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Yeah. I haven't experienced bad GHA myself, just very very little when I had my Mandarin but it went away shortly afterwards. GFO reactor from what I heard is the way to go in defeating bad GHA.

Just boring stuff with the tank today. Missed my weekly water changes... so water change today along with some parameter tests

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Interestingly my magnesium usually drops from 1380 to 1320 by the end of the week. I haven't dosed at all and my magnesium went up some? What the? Lol. Everything else looks pretty normal
 
Nanologist
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I love testing and don't think it's boring at all, but I'm a nerd!

Decided to order this based off one of your recent purchases and the GHA in my tank:
 
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Nart
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Good move on the Hanna Checkers. I love using my Alk Hanna. Really easy to use.

So just to give y'all an idea of my chaeto... this is from about 3 weeks of growth and this is just from my smaller chaeto chamber.

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I utilize the over flow (smaller) chamber and the bigger) media chamber to grow chaeto. I usually trI'm about 1/2 to 1/4 of it off... this is the result of trimming about 1/2 my chaeto

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Oh man... I am so ashamed. I haven't tested Ammonia in so long that I forgotten how to

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Testing my rock curing to see how bad the dead organic die off is
 
Nanologist
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NART said:
Oh man... I am so ashamed. I haven't tested Ammonia in so long that I forgotten how to

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Testing my rock curing to see how bad the dead organic die off is
Do you test for phosphates released during the curing process as well?
 
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Nart
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Nanologist yeah. Ran out of time today so I'll have to get to it tomorrow. Strangely enough Ammonia is 0. Really curious of the phosphates now...
 
Nanologist
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NART said:
Nanologist yeah. Ran out of time today so I'll have to get to it tomorrow. Strangely enough Ammonia is 0. Really curious of the phosphates now...
I think my problem with GHA could also be contributed to residual phosphates leaking from my base rock that I didn't test for. It cured for over a month during the cycle but maybe I didn't export enough through water changes.

I've heard this Caribsea Base Rock can be high in phosphates but I've seen many report the opposite so...
 
KristaD
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My Hanna checkers just came in the mail today! Can't wait to try them. Any tips from you experts I should know?

NART said:
Good move on the Hanna Checkers. I love using my Alk Hanna. Really easy to use.

So just to give y'all an idea of my chaeto... this is from about 3 weeks of growth and this is just from my smaller chaeto chamber.

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I utilize the over flow (smaller) chamber and the bigger) media chamber to grow chaeto. I usually trI'm about 1/2 to 1/4 of it off... this is the result of trimming about 1/2 my chaeto

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Insane!
 
LJC6780
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Nanologist said:
I love testing and don't think it's boring at all, but I'm a nerd!

Decided to order this based off one of your recent purchases and the GHA in my tank:
I have the ULR one and love it.

Nart your parameters are similar to what mine were today when I tested ... water change was the other day but I don't remember when. Life has been a bit crazy around here with my son starting preschool, me having mouth surgery, my arthritis in my back and neck acting up and making me not want to do anything for most of the day, son getting sinus infection and staying home from school yesterday ... I'm so frazzle brained lately. I should probably do a good vac in the dead spots and change about 15 gallons. Good thing is that my dosing is holding well. Mag was a bit lower than I'd like based on where I want my other numbers so I bumped it up a bit and fixed the bubbles in the line on the calc line so I'll let that catch back up now ...

Question: if I'm wanting calc around 450-460, therefore mag should be around 1350-1380 ... what should Alk be around? It's currently like 8.3 I think. Calc was 410, mag 1305.

I also started up the Skimmer ... cleaned some pumps I thought were crapped out and they now work! And the gfo back up. I have a nitrate reactor and the pellets for it but I've got to see if I have a pump strong enough for it. I'm dealing with some sort of hair algae still and hoping all of this will help to starve it out!

Also, have you heard from stella1979 ? I'm worried about them! I hope she's able to check in soon and let us know what she needs.
 
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Nart
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KristaD I just started using my Alkalinity Hanna Checker... only tip I have is wipe your test tube with a paper towel or microfiber cloth each time before it goes into the checker. When I was at MACNA I was talking to a Hanna sales rep and they gave me the run down of how the device works. Basically there's a light inside that calculates the particles in the tube, so to get the most accurate reading is by having the test tube free of finger print smudge and etc.. I haven't forgotten to email you my light settings! wrote a note to myself that I'll do it today!

LJC6780 Alk at 8.3 is the perfect number to have. I used to have Alk at 13 when using RSCP lol. With all that stuff... you should defeat algae in no time.

Noo.... starting to get worried about stella1979
Melissa - please report in to your family here on fishlore!
 
stella1979
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Yes! I'm finally back. Missed you guys!!! Cell service is extremely spotty and power is out. Will update better when I can, but the house is ok and we have a car battery hooked up to the reef tank.
 
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Nart
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stella1979 soooooooooooo glad to hear from you and that ya'll are all okay. Let me know if you need anything.
 
Nanologist
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stella1979 said:
Yes! I'm finally back. Missed you guys!!! Cell service is extremely spotty and power is out. Will update better when I can, but the house is ok and we have a car battery hooked up to the reef tank.
I seriously just let out the largest sigh of relief in my life...
 
grantm91
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A car battery you cowboy !! No very good improv you guys are clever man, glad to hear things are ok, you should give us a big run down of everything on your thread id like to hear about your experience. The main thing is your fam and home are ok, its nice to hear back from you.
 
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Nart
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Just tested the water in the rock curing tub...

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Never seen phosphates this high haha. Looks like this curing process might take awhile...

On another note... latest mod to the tank..... stand

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Threw in a motion sensor light as it's always dark and hard to know what I'm reaching for. Best mod to date yet haha.

Edit: just did a phosphate dilution test and looks like PO4 is around 0.68ppm
 
Nanologist
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Yeah, I've heard PukanI can have quite a bit of phosphates and take awhile to cure. Wishing I cured my base rock longer since I didn't test it at all for phosphates... can only imagine.
 
grantm91
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**** my ride IM25 edition. I like the idea of the light good one haha, curing LR makes it leach a lot of phos, ive not done it but am looking into it for future reference, looks like il need another test kit .
 
LJC6780
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stella1979 said:
Yes! I'm finally back. Missed you guys!!! Cell service is extremely spotty and power is out. Will update better when I can, but the house is ok and we have a car battery hooked up to the reef tank.
OMGosh! So great to hear!

I finally have my rock going in the tub out back too. I drained water from a tank by the window directly into the tub to start! I figure the bacteria in the water can help to give it a kick start. It's been going a few days but I haven't checked anything yet to see where it is. I also haven't changed any water on it. Maybe I'll get around to testing it sometime in the next few days.
 
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Nart
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Nanologist Yeah... I expected curing PukanI will take a while. Even on BRStv they made an episode on curing the PukanI with 3 different methods and it still took a month or two.
It's okay though, gives me time to work on the frag tank.

grantm91 If you get a Phosphate test kit down the road... if I were you, I would opt for the Hanna checkers. My Red Sea Phos test kit is sometimes quite challenging to tell the colors apart. I think I am going to invest in a Hanna Calcium and Phosphate checker soon.

Btw - these shirts describes us perfectly...




I bought this one from MACNA
 
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Nart
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Coradee is my thread broken?
 
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Coradee
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How do you mean broken?
 
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Nart
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Coradee If you go to my Page 6, it'll say that there's "4 more messages" so when you click on it... you'll just see the 2 messages here... don't see the other 2 messages.
 
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Coradee
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Ooh you're right it seems a couple are missing, that is odd.
I'll go have a look at some other threads to see if maybe there's a general glitch or just this one, brb

NART It does look like it's just this thread for some reason, maybe the missing ones will reappear at some point, spooky!
 
thesoulpatch
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NART also love the picture with the lid that says "1.025ish" hahaha
 
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Nart
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Coradee Appreciate you taking a look at it. Thank you.

thesoulpatch hahaha... It's my little mason jar of fresh saltwater that I have to put back in the tank when I do a large scale water tests. Not often, but some times I'll draw anywhere from 50-100 ml of tank water to run tests so I don't like to inadvertently kick on my ATO to fill up the tank since I use Kalkwasser in my top off water.
 
LJC6780
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NART said:
Nanologist Yeah... I expected curing PukanI will take a while. Even on BRStv they made an episode on curing the PukanI with 3 different methods and it still took a month or two.
It's okay though, gives me time to work on the frag tank.

grantm91 If you get a Phosphate test kit down the road... if I were you, I would opt for the Hanna checkers. My Red Sea Phos test kit is sometimes quite challenging to tell the colors apart. I think I am going to invest in a Hanna Calcium and Phosphate checker soon.

Btw - these shirts describes us perfectly...




I bought this one from MACNA
Actually I've heard the Hanna isn't all that accurate on the calc. I'd go salifert personally. Hanna for Alk and phos (ULR). I use salifert for nitrate, calc and mag.

We had our meeting today and a guy mentioned the "I'd frag that" shirt. He was wearing one that said, "salt creep." Lol

Coradee said:
Ooh you're right it seems a couple are missing, that is odd.
I'll go have a look at some other threads to see if maybe there's a general glitch or just this one, brb

NART It does look like it's just this thread for some reason, maybe the missing ones will reappear at some point, spooky!
Actually the Tapatalk app seems broken. Pics show up as links and there are all of these auto links (in blue) added in. Also, many posts are showing up doubled. Look at my last quote of Nart. His post was doubled.

NART said:
Coradee Appreciate you taking a look at it. Thank you.

thesoulpatch hahaha... It's my little mason jar of fresh saltwater that I have to put back in the tank when I do a large scale water tests. Not often, but some times I'll draw anywhere from 50-100 ml of tank water to run tests so I don't like to inadvertently kick on my ATO to fill up the tank since I use Kalkwasser in my top off water.
That makes total sense, but why so much?! What are you testing?! My tests use 5ml (if I use an API test for something), 2ml, 2 use 1ml and 2 use 10ml.
 
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Nart
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This was mighty tempting when I was visiting LFS down in Virginia Beach... totally could go back into freshwater for rays. One day.

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LJC6780 Ah, good to know on the Hanna Calcium checker. I have Salifert for Calcium, so I'll probably keep using it.
LOL! - that[s a funny shirt.

Well, Red Sea's Phosphate checker alone requires 2 x 17ml per and I'll double check some parameters if it looks off so that's why I draw so much sometimes. Not often, but sometimes I do.
 
stella1979
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Well shoot Nart, if you're talking hundreds of gallons for rays... why not make it salty and get a Blue Dot hangin' under a huge reef? Recently saw an Aarons Aquarium video showing a monster tank at Aqua Depot in London. My dream tank! I'd totally put a ray or two in there.
 
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Nart
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I was thinking of a whale shark tank build next... but then thought of the chaeto I had to grow so ehhhh... maybe in the future
stella1979 what's sad about that ray is that you can totally tell that it's malnourished. Broke my heart a little... the way you can tell is the two hip bone towards the back, right before it's tail. One should not see 2 hip bones sticking right up from it's body. I would've totally saved it too had I had a spare 100G laying around to keep in the interim.

Any who, not much to update on my tanks. Finally shut down my last freshwater tank so my 10G frag tank build will continue.
Watching the dry PukanI rock cure is worse than watching grass grow lol.
 
Culprit
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That's sad.

Only $250 ahhhahah. That would be stinking expensive.

Haha I enjoy watching my grass grow lol. My favorite part of Freshwater is the plants.
 
stella1979
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Awww, I didn't notice that on the poor little guy. I hope he finds the home he needs very soon.

I feel your pain in trying to find patience. I've loved the color purple my whole life, but I am beginning to hate it these days.. stupid nitrites!
 
Nanologist
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stella1979 said:
I've loved the color purple my whole life, but I am beginning to hate it these days.. stupid nitrites!
You too! Royal Purple has been my favorite color since high school. It was just plain green before that... but I don't think I gave it much thought until art classes and such in high school. That's when I learned about purple being the color for royalty because it's the most expensive color to make. It was originally made from a "species of sea snail now known as Bolinus brandaris, and it was so exceedingly rare that it became worth its weight in gold."

I got a kick the first time I saw the nitrite test turn about the same color as Petal... I was like, "well this color isn't on the chart"
 
grantm91
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This is strange I am also a huge fan of purple I loved that colour of the nitrite test, and look at my profile pic that's why I love that nem so much.
 
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Nart
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All of ya'll crack me up... luckily no one's favorite color is blue... because boy, if you had blue colored Phosphate tests with Red Sea, you're in for some serious algae trouble across the board lol.

Culprit Dropping $250 on a ray is on the cheap side. I walked out of my private coral seller's store once with $200 less in my pocket with just 2 small corals lol.
 
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Oh dang haha. That's crazy

errrrr my favorite color is a crisp bright but royal blue. Like a perfect fall sky. So I guess I'd better never see the blue colored phosphate test... HA
 
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Nart
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Just a quick side tank shot from my couch. Sick and lazy..

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Still curing.

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Phosphates looking a tad bit better.

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Nart
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And this is why I don't like using API test kits for saltwater...

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Can y'all tell me what is the Phosphate ppm? (This water is from the rock curing tub)

Update: no trace of Ammonia, Nitrite, or Nitrates. Not a whole lot of dead organics on the rocks.. probably a lot came off during the bleach and vinegar bath.
 
stella1979
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Cheese and rice... I hate those API tests sometimes too. Looks like it could be anything 1 or below, but not zero. Not too helpful, huh.
 
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Nart
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Also, going to try out my buddy's Tanks and Plants bio-media called "Biohome Filter Media Hawaii"! Can't wait to get it cycled and going. Thanks for letting me try out your product Brandon


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grantm91
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That's British, I have the gravel version. No apparently its been contracted to that pond guru another youtube hero A British one lol, no he is quite liked I'm just not a fan.
 
Nanologist
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I'd say somewhere between .25 and .5 but closer to .25... lol .35?

lol, I've seen those Pondguru videos. He's big into filtration.
 
Culprit
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Looks between .5 and .25. Haha I don't like them either. I mean on Freshwater nitrates you can barely tell between 5, 10, and 20. You would think they would make the test tubes in a square or something/
 
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Nart said:
Also, going to try out my buddy's Tanks and Plants bio-media called "Biohome Filter Media Hawaii"! Can't wait to get it cycled and going. Thanks for letting me try out your product Brandon


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Hope you like it!
 
KristaD
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.25-.5 is my guess as well. Ugh! Time for the Hanna Checker
 
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Nart
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I guess we can expect too much on a $30 test kit that comes with all the basic essential tests.

So to give y'all an idea of how hardy pods and chaeto are... I was low-key cycling rocks in a small bucket, but scraped the idea because I had to top it off every few days. I had removed the heater about a month ago and turned off the power-heads for it too. Basically the water was around 67 degrees, no airation and had a lid over it, leaving just a small crack. I go over to check it today.. I'm looking at the chaeto to see if it is still usable... it's still fluffy green! And I saw pods darting around.

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Tossed it right into the new tank

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Nart
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Check out my big RBTA when the lights were about to go out. The porcelain crab guarding its home.

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stella1979
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Aww, he looks to be almost camouflaged too.
 
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