Canister filter recommendation ?
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Hmm, and it's blue!!! Love blue, but price, oh my gosh, for 1 filter. The cascade 1500 is 139.00 on Amazon and the 1500 Elite is 159 ish. Maybe I will find it on sale somewhere.
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Just about all the new canister filters these days have shut off valves or a connection block to isolate the hoses for disconnect to do filter maintenance. Media for them isn't that hard there's a course foam for larger particles, some form of bio media either ceramic rings or bio ball, most have some form of carbon that you really don't need. Then there's the fine floss for catching what hasn't been caught yet during filtration. I know my filters can go months between cleanings if need be.
First of all the canister filters I suggested have to be cleaned out every 3 months, the ones I have do not get dirty on the outside, and after 3 years they still look new! HOB'S have a function but if your dealing with only a few tanks you need to go with a canister. The set up on a 304B is, top basket is bio balls or ceramic rings, next is bio balls or ceramic rings next is a carbon or if you don't like carbon a medium sponge, and the bottom lair is a course sponge. I'm starting to reduce the amount of tanks I run because I'm getting to old. Until 2 months ago I was running 7 Fluval FX6's, 22 sunsun 304B's and 28 sunsun 603B's, on 50 tanks, If I can run that many tanks and filters at 69 years old, I think you can run a 40 and a 10. I have been in the hobby since 1969, 33 years of it as a professional, If you do as I say and stop believing all the horse pucky on the web you'll be OK.
Thank you. I use purigen in my HOB, can I put these in the canister filters? I buy the prepackaged 100 ml bags.
For the reticulated sponge, it has 3 differnt types, Blue 15 ppi, green 30 ppi, and black 45 ppi. Do I get any particular one or one of each or?
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fissh I just bought everything you said to buy. Be here in 4 days, hope it works out for me. Thank you again.
Few more questions if you do not mind.
Can I put Purigen in one of the levels? When I get it, I may come here and ask you to help me in figuring out what to put in what basket.
I assume the pads just need rinsing out for a while like HOB filters do, so one pad should last a while?
I can stuff seeded media from the HOBs in there right?
Few more questions if you do not mind.
Can I put Purigen in one of the levels? When I get it, I may come here and ask you to help me in figuring out what to put in what basket.
I assume the pads just need rinsing out for a while like HOB filters do, so one pad should last a while?
I can stuff seeded media from the HOBs in there right?
I have 2 from the Tidal I have kept in the AuaClear 70s pending buying a filter for the 10, then I have the two AC70 ones that are currently running, so yeah 4. Plus 2 pads in my betta tanks that I just have in there for forever.
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Changing water in 50 tanks must be quite a chore, it takes me over an hour to do 3. By they way your tanks look great.
you'll do ok with putting some purigen in a bag and putting it before the ceramic rings next to the sponge. If you cut your own sponges, the ones I recommended will last for years. Also if you want to spice up your canister, get some red and blue duct tape and stripe the can, you can call it "the all American made in China canister"!
I use a BIG PUMP and a garden hose!
I bought everything you said, even bought a black pad because I was itchy to buy it, so have the blue, green, and black, bought the canister for the 10G you suggested, and the balls you suggested for the 40 g one. The biggest part of weekly water changes I despise is the filter part, so it will be great to not have to do that so often now.
I forgot to mention that I also have, in addition to two AC70's, a green killing machine 24 volt in the tank, because I thought 9 volt would be too small. So, maybe I can take that horrible beast out of the tank since the SunSun that fissh recommended has a 9 V UV on it. Not sure how that works and how to make sure it keeps working, but that is for later.
I do 50% water change weekly on my 3 tanks 55,29,and 10 gallons. It takes me over a hour to clean them and replace the water that has been removed. All 3 are located right next to a bathroom in my basement so I syphon the water out of them with a python hand held with a prime bulb. By doing it this way I don`t waste any water and it is only about 10 steps to the toilet to empty the 5 gallon buckets, plus it helps to keep this 77 year old in shape. I do use the Python diverter at the laundry sink along with a collapsible hose for filling along with an instant meat thermometer to regulate the temp. After being out of the hobby for a very long time I decided to get back in and that was about 18 months ago.
I cannot wait. My order shipped already and is guaranteed to be here by Friday. Much cheaper than I thought it would be and got 2 canisters, one for 10 gallon and one for 40. Let's just hope my old, blonde, dumb butt can figure out how to install it.
Letsfish 77 huh? Amazing. Good for you.
fissh They came. I did the small one because puffers arrived today so had to get that one set up. Took me 3 hours to set it up. I had it level to the tank and it would not work so had to rework everything and move the rack with full fish tanks on it to make room on the floor next to the tank. Then, it kept leaking on me. I was so upset. Thought I overstuffed it. Opened it a kagilion times to see what I was doing wrong. Turns out, I was just setting the lid back on. I was not turning the lid to lock it in, I think. So, I have it in a bucket on the floor for now to make sure it does not leak but it seems to be working fine.
Tomorrow I will attempt the big one for the 40-G. I am hoping that one does not need to be below the tank because I do not know where I will put it then.
Thanks for all your help.
Letsfish 77 huh? Amazing. Good for you.
fissh They came. I did the small one because puffers arrived today so had to get that one set up. Took me 3 hours to set it up. I had it level to the tank and it would not work so had to rework everything and move the rack with full fish tanks on it to make room on the floor next to the tank. Then, it kept leaking on me. I was so upset. Thought I overstuffed it. Opened it a kagilion times to see what I was doing wrong. Turns out, I was just setting the lid back on. I was not turning the lid to lock it in, I think. So, I have it in a bucket on the floor for now to make sure it does not leak but it seems to be working fine.
Tomorrow I will attempt the big one for the 40-G. I am hoping that one does not need to be below the tank because I do not know where I will put it then.
Thanks for all your help.
Okay, calling all canister gods.
I have it installed. I think. It makes a whooshing sound. I have checked all connections, checked the levels of media, everything seems even, level. The cover is on.
What else can I check?
This thing is heavy when filled and so far I have it on the floor until I can stop the swooshing sound. Can low water level cause it? The hoses and intakes are bit demented right now because I have not moved it into place yet.
Wish there were handles or something on the side of the filter for carrying. It is so hard to grab.
It is fixed. I put it where it was going to go, fixed the tubes so they go down in like a U and it stopped whooshing.
I have it installed. I think. It makes a whooshing sound. I have checked all connections, checked the levels of media, everything seems even, level. The cover is on.
What else can I check?
This thing is heavy when filled and so far I have it on the floor until I can stop the swooshing sound. Can low water level cause it? The hoses and intakes are bit demented right now because I have not moved it into place yet.
Wish there were handles or something on the side of the filter for carrying. It is so hard to grab.
It is fixed. I put it where it was going to go, fixed the tubes so they go down in like a U and it stopped whooshing.
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Wow, You got them running, good for you. As said the swooshing sound is trapped air, the essayist way to clear the air out is the oval button on the top of the canister. Push it up and down 6 to 8 times and then hold it down until the noise goes away. It will always work better if the filter is well below the tank surface level, but I have run them even with the tank surface before and it will work except that you have to use the button every time you hear the swooshing sound.
fissh Yep, I did it. LOL. It is pretty much silent now. For this filter, there is no way for me to run it below the level of the tank. It is hugish, and tank is on a dresser in a corner, and nowhere else to put it, so would have to be run in front of the dresser if I put it below the level of the tank and those ugly green tubes would be an eyesore. It is still not pretty but maybe one day I will get rid of the dresser and buy a stand with an underneath to put the filter in.
So far it is working great. It cleared up cloudy water in 24 hours from messing with setting it up. At first I had the input/output switched and just kept pumping it over and over again, pushing huge air bubbles into the water and stirring everything up. I have not had to clean it out yet, so we will see how that goes first time.
Thanks so much for giving me such detailed information allowing me to buy one and figure it out.
I hate to admit it but I'm lazy and hate to clean filters. If you came into my fish store I would tell you to clean it every 3 mounts, but I don't clean mine for at least 4 months or more, depending on what the tank looks like. So I guess what I'm saying is you should play it safe and do it at 3 months.
I don't know yet when I will do it. I guess it will depend on if the tank starts looking gunky. Anywho, this thing is heavy and in an awkward place having to lift it up and over the corner of the tank to get it out so not sure yet when I will undertake that. I really wish it had handles. Might have to fashion some handles. The smaller one on the 10 gallon is easier to access.
Before I clean it out, will need to buy 7 packs of Purigen to put in it. I used up every last packet I had to go in these.
My fish love to hang out where the sprinkler is, above the sprinkler, out of the flow and they have a little ledge to rest on, LOL.
According to the specs on this filter, I am way overfiltered too, no? My tank is 40G, and the Sun Sun is for up to 200 gallons and processes 525 GPH.
So I have been really looking into switching to a canister filter from my HOB marineland 200. What do you guys run for a canister? I want something that will keep up with the tank and not break my pocket lol and be reliable. Any suggestions are welcome.
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30g heated 1 plant
4 Molly’s females
5 female platys
When I first was looking for canister for my 55 gallon I was going to get a name brand but the price was a bit much for me....especially considering I wanted to get a larger one. I ended up going with an off brand from amazon... I think it was called a polar aurora or something, my understanding was it's the same as the budget sunsun canisters just different name but same model HW-304b. The instructions were badly translated broken english and since it was my first canister I watched some youtube videos on setting it up properly. After a year and a half it started to leak slightly and I did have to replace a sealing rubber ring but that was $7 and it was fine after that, I'm still happy with it...Good luck!
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I ran a fluval 206 on a 20 gallon high.. it's good for up to 45 gallons.. when I upped to my 55 gallon I bought a second one to run in conjunction with the one I had I liked the first one so much.
Easy to use, easy to maintain. Practically silent. You'll never go back to HOB again.
Easy to use, easy to maintain. Practically silent. You'll never go back to HOB again.
I do run dual cartridges in the HOB along with a big sponge. I don’t trust the hob to last or do as good of a job. I bought it as a cheap get me going filter. Plus it’s loud.
The fluval is slightly higher the budget but it is a contender. Have you found any cons? Also the marine land caught my eye from the other guy along with the sunsun hw303b
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I think I got my first 206 on sale for $89.. the second one, 3 years later was $139, but was advertised, same store, online for $119 so they game me that price.
The only con is possibility of leaking. So keep it in a container.. you'll notice the water level in your tank drop before the container fills. I had one with a slow leak and I simply returned it and took the next one off the shelf. It worked great.
In all, I've have 2 fluvals, and aside from the one that leaked a little water when I first turned it in, you hardly know it's even running.
Got a question. I am noticing on my 40G with the 304B that although there is flow, it is not a lot of flow. that could be because it is level to the tank, I assume, and the tank looks great water wise, but noticing dirt on the plants and what not.
Let me remind you all I have way too many mystery snails in this tank. At last count, think there were 10 or 11. They are huge. They are piggies. So, I assume the dirt is their poop. I think I need additional filtration. I have no room for another canister. This canister is supposed to do 525 gallons per hour. They say you should go 10 times your water capacity, so 400 gallons per hour I should have but then there are these mystery snails. Is there a good internal canister type filter that would move around the middle of the tank more?
Let me remind you all I have way too many mystery snails in this tank. At last count, think there were 10 or 11. They are huge. They are piggies. So, I assume the dirt is their poop. I think I need additional filtration. I have no room for another canister. This canister is supposed to do 525 gallons per hour. They say you should go 10 times your water capacity, so 400 gallons per hour I should have but then there are these mystery snails. Is there a good internal canister type filter that would move around the middle of the tank more?
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Yes, just nowhere to move it to, and even if I had a spot, the tubes won't reach around to the end of the tank, end of stand, and then down to the floor. I'd have to get longer tubes, as they are only 5 feet long. The tank is on a dresser right now so no way to use it to store the filter, unless I bought a stand. It is in a corner, the tank sits in middle of dresser, the corner of dresser next to tank is where filter sits. The other side of tank, is a door to my outside patio, so cannot put it there. There is nice flow, I just don't see how it can suck up from the plants. For now, I sort of go in with my hand and swish the plants so it can go into the filter. I thought if I shot the sprayer bar down into the tank rather than up out of the tank or level with top of the water, it might unseat the dirt allowing the filter to suck it up, but then there is like no surface agitation.
The only thing I might be able to do is turn the dresser so it is on the long wall, just have to see if it fits there, then might have a spot next to the dresser to put the filter. Cannot do this with the tank full unless I had my sons to help me so will have to wait till water change day.
Edited to add about 2 hours later, that for the time being, I added my Seachem Tidal 75 to the tank, adding 250 GPH filtration to the 525 GPH the canister gives me, total of 875 GPH total filtration minus some for the canister being level with the fish tank. Hope that is enough for now.
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I know this is a highly debatable subject but here it goes.
I currently have a 60gl tank with 2 Bala sharks. Estimated length is about 7" in length. Filtration was a Marineland 360 canister. I need a new canister as the 360 is leaking. I don't want to, or care to, replace parts and all that.
So... What do you all think I should get. As far as money? I can spend around $160.00.
I currently have a 60gl tank with 2 Bala sharks. Estimated length is about 7" in length. Filtration was a Marineland 360 canister. I need a new canister as the 360 is leaking. I don't want to, or care to, replace parts and all that.
So... What do you all think I should get. As far as money? I can spend around $160.00.
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