Angelfish or Goldfish

[LHAquatics]

For future references, I am planning a 40g breeder tank. Should I get 2 oranda goldfish, or should I do a community tank with the angelfish as the center piece fish?

 

[WagglePets]

For future references, I am planning a 40g breeder tank. Should I get 2 oranda goldfish, or should I do a community tank with the angelfish as the center piece fish?

Goldfish! Sorry I’m a softie for them lol

 

[LHAquatics]

Goldfish! Sorry I’m a softie for them lol

Pros and cons for goldfish (If there is a misunderstanding in any, tell me)
Pros:
Packed with personality
Cuties
Underwater puppies
Cons:
Waste Machine
High Maintenance
Need a lot of filtration
Eating Aquarium Plants

 

[RedOnion]

I love community tanks! I would do an angel with peaceful community tank mates

 

[Passionfish]

I probably going to get a goldfish myself in a 29 gallon, unless it is too small, so yea go for goldfish. They are so freakin cute.

 

[WagglePets]

Pros and cons for goldfish (If there is a misunderstanding in any, tell me)
Pros:
Packed with personality
Cuties
Underwater puppies
Cons:
Waste Machine
High Maintenance
Need a lot of filtration
Eating Aquarium Plants

I’ve had luck with anubias and Java fern because the leaves are too thick for them to eat

 

[Adavachi]

I think that goldfish are really cool and they are super cute! as LeotheGoldfish said there are a lot of plants that you can end up putting with goldfish that they won't eat as well.

 

[LHAquatics]

Which fish is less maintenance? Angelfish are like the royals with their majestic movement and looks. Goldfish are cuties and are adorable.

 

[SouthAmericanCichlids]

Angels, they produce a lot less waste. I vote a pair of angels, I think 4 in a 40g would be too small. But a mated pare of angels would work fine. But when laying eggs they can get aggressive, so something out of their sightline like cories, a pleco, kuhlis, and other bottom dwellers would work well.

 

[LHAquatics]

Angels, they produce a lot less waste. I vote a pair of angels, I think 4 in a 40g would be too small. But a mated pare of angels would work fine. But when laying eggs they can get aggressive, so something out of their sightline like cories, a pleco, kuhlis, and other bottom dwellers would work well.

If I do choose Angelfish how much do I get? If I get one, what other fish should I add? Or if get a pair, how do I even pair them up? And can any other fish go with that pair?

 

[NotSoAggressiveAquatics]

I would do a goldfish tank. They looks so cute and there are tons of different varieties

 

[SouthAmericanCichlids]

Angels are really social fish, so with one they can get bored, though if they had a companion, they might want to murder them. But with 2 unpaired one is stronger and the other never gets a break and eventually dies this dilutes at about 4 fish. But if you do do 1 angel then pretty much anything can go with it as long as it can't fit in their mouths. I have this suspicion from multiple people's experience, that they haven't made conclusions of, but I have not yet tested this, that if you raise small fish from when they are young with the angels they will survive with them. But again, not tested. But the way to tell if they are mated, is to just go through, get 2 return one and get another, until you find ones that don't constantly attach each other. But they have to be older to pair up so this could take a while. And as of other fish with the pair, bottom dwellers and plecos definitely could.

 

[AcornTheBetta]

I vote for 2 Ranchu goldfish since they are so freaking adorable! The way they swim and their big, cute eyes really are what makes me love them so much. If I had a 40g, it would be 2 Ranchus all the way.

 

[Lebeeze]

I want goldfish, plus you get the added benefit of not needing a heater. Unless fancy goldfish need heat I'm actually not sure.

 

[LHAquatics]

A couple of questions about angelfish:
If I get one (it says on googleI can have one ), what other fish can I add?
Are they hardier than goldfish?
Any tips?

And Questions about goldfish:
What kind of goldfish can I get? (I want the hardiest, least maintenance, and funnest type)
How many goldfish?
Can I add any other fish?

 

[Onpots]

Hi! What is your water like? Angel Fish like soft water and gold (I never had one) I think they like water to be kind of hard.

It is easy to harden de water than to soften it, so I will recommend to take that also into account. The fish you enjoy more are those you see grow and thrive in your tank.

As I said, I never had gold fish, but I had many many other fresh water fish and one of the best things I have ever done lately is set an amazon aquarium.

Not only the angels are majestic but you can also stock the tank with Rams or Apistos which are beautiful, best species to interact with and if water and feeding is right even easy to breed. But I'm sure it takes more effort than a gold fish tank...

 

[Lvmyfsh]

For future references, I am planning a 40g breeder tank. Should I get 2 oranda goldfish, or should I do a community tank with the angelfish as the center piece fish?

Angels for sure way less issues more tank mate options and there just all around good fish they are said to be sensitive to water conditions but I've had several survive tank emergencies that all other fish haven't so I vote angels besides we all need a few watching over us right mine recognize me to

 

[LHAquatics]

This is really an interesting battle

 

[SouthAmericanCichlids]

But, I am sure if you tryed for a while, you'd eventually be able to find 2 really not aggressive angels. They are kind of like bettas imo, some are angels, and some are demons. But towards each other, not so much other fish.

If I get one (it says on googleI can have one ), what other fish can I add?
Are they hardier than goldfish?
Any tips?

I have my angels thriving in 8.2 ph water. So ph isn't really a big deal. With one, while not advised, I would say anything that can't fit in their mouths when they're full grown. I would say goldies are one of the hardiest fish ever, so no, but they are very hardy fish in general. They prefer hotter temps. but can thrive in 78 degree water.

 

[AcornTheBetta]

And Questions about goldfish:
What kind of goldfish can I get? (I want the hardiest, least maintenance, and funnest type)
How many goldfish?
Can I add any other fish?

I would say that pretty much all fancy goldfish are pretty equal, but I love Ranchus.
2 Fancy Goldfish
I would say no...

 

[KayBee3]

Hi!

If you're interested in goldfish I highly recommend you check out this link! It has information on stocking, tankmates, plants and goldfish, nutrition and much much more. The Complete Goldfish Care Guide

 

[Fishnturtleguy933]

Goldfish. Angels need a taller tank than a 40 breeder. If it wasn't for that i would say angels.

 

[LHAquatics]

Goldfish. Angels need a taller tank than a 40 breeder. If it wasn't for that i would say angels.

Yeah, that was what I was about to say. Now, what goldfish should I get? If I get 2 goldfish, can I add any other fish?

 

[SouthAmericanCichlids]

Goldfish. Angels need a taller tank than a 40 breeder. If it wasn't for that i would say angels.

I'd have to disagree with you there. Though I would say a 40g would be a bout the minimum for angels, do to height.

Yeah, that was what I was about to say. Now, what goldfish should I get? If I get 2 goldfish, can I add any other fish?

With Goldies you can't have too small fish or they'll be eaten. I'm not actually quite sure in terms of Bioload wise, but if it's not too heavily stocked you could probably do a clown/BN pleco.

 

[phnx314]

I’d go with goldfish. I love my angels but I have them in a 46g and feel like in that size tank there’s not much room for success. They’re just SO mean and it’s easier when you can have a group, not just a pair.

Also, a 40 breeder might be a little too short for angels. They prefer tall tanks.

 

[LHAquatics]

Will this work, @ oranda goldfish, and 6 wcmm

 

[Fishnturtleguy933]

I'd have to disagree with you there. Though I would say a 40g would be a bout the minimum for angels, do to height.

With Goldies you can't have too small fish or they'll be eaten. I'm not actually quite sure in terms of Bioload wise, but if it's not too heavily stocked you could probably do a clown/BN pleco.

I could see that. Especially if you start them in there as a juvie and upgrade later. I wouldn't keep a full grown adult in there though imo

 

[SouthAmericanCichlids]

Oh, I just looked up the dimensions of a 40 breeder to verify what I thought was correct, and they are a lot shorter than I remembered, I thought they were like 20 in. But in that case, I would definitely go goldfish. I don't know why I thought they were so much taller.

 

[Ouse]

Angelfish by far. They’re very personable fish with striking colours. I’ve never kept goldfish, and the use of the word “goldfish” is pretty vague. You could be describing common goldfish or fancy goldfish, each varying drastically from one another.

 

[veggieshark]

I would say hands down angelfish, but after seeing maintenance discussions, I think goldfish is a pretty good option. You can get by without a heater with them as well. The only concern is their ultimate size. It depends on what you like though. If you like a planted community then go with the angelfish. Even though 4-5 adult angels may be too many, still the best way to raise cichlids is to get a group of young. I would say get 4-5 quarter size angels and separate them as they start pairing and become aggressive. This is one thing about having cichlids in community, they will want to breed and become aggressive. With goldfish you won't have the same issue. If you are content with limited selection of fish, plant and decor, go with goldies (just don't get one that grows to common goldfish sizes).

 

[LHAquatics]

I decided on 2 oranda goldfish. I will experiment with different types of plants. WIth 0.75in of sand subtrate. The decor will be smooth large river rocks. Food will be Fluval goldfish pellets and occasionally peas, cucumber, and zucchini. The FIlter is an aquaclear 70 and maybe an Eheim heater. Fist time keeping goldifsh and am super excited. Now, I am on to save money . pretty broke rn

 

[Fishnturtleguy933]

I decided on 2 oranda goldfish. I will experiment with different types of plants. WIth 0.75in of sand subtrate. The decor will be smooth large river rocks. Food will be Fluval goldfish pellets and occasionally peas, cucumber, and zucchini. The FIlter is an aquaclear 70 and maybe an Eheim heater. Fist time keeping goldifsh and am super excited. Now, I am on to save money . pretty broke rn

With goldfish you don't really need a heater as they are cold water fish. You should be able to save money there. Stick to sturdy plants like java ferns and anubias, they have a better chance of surviving being eaten by the goldfish.