Two Tanks, One Betta: Advice please

MagnifcentBett

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I'm in a bit of a dilemma and hope for friendly advice. I've been creating tanks since last spring. I've done quite a few, and currently am trying to downsize from six. My five gallon Bettta tank has been very stable for months, then a few weeks ago the Nitrates shot up to 80ppm. All other parameterts, including GH and KH are in normal range. The pH is low, though, 6.7. TDS 103. I don't know what went haywire. I've been in the process of building a new tank for him. That's been cycling since this Saturday. I am running a well seasoned sponge filter from another tank, and doing a fish in with embers and bacteria. Here are the two tanks' stats.
My question is, which tank is better for the betta? the nerites will have to go elsewhere until the ten gallon is more mature.

Tank 1: Current Betta tank.
I think he should come out of here since I can't get the Nitrate level down. He seems fine, but it's certainly not good for him
What is the water volume of the tank?: 5 gallon
What type of water are you using in your tank? (tap, well, RO/DI, other): distilled
When did you start cycling the tank?: October 2025
What type of filtration are you running on this tank? (sponge, HOB, canister, other): AIO
If canister or HOB list all the media you are running in it. (manufactured cartridges, sponge, etc.): sponge and bio rings
Do you have good water agitation/surface movement?: yes
What is the water temperature?: 82.4F


If fish in cycling
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts): one halfmoon plakat male, 2 nerites
How often do you feed them and how much?: Twice a day, 5 pellets Bug Bites, 6 days/week
Are they showing signs of distress? (fish hiding, staying at the top, looking pale, torn fins, etc): None
Do you have live plants in the tank?: yes
If so are they healthy and actively growing?: Yes

Using

Microbe-Lift Nite-Out II Nitrifying Aquarium Bacteria after water changes​

Testing and cycling process
What was your knowledge of the nitrogen cycle before beginning to cycle your tank? (none, beginner, intermediate (please explain), advanced): Intermediate
What do you use to test the water? (API liquid, test strips, other): API Masterkit, GH KH TDS
Did you test your tap water for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH, if so post the results below?: Not recently
Have you done any water changes and if so, when?: Yes, every couple of days, the last being today
How much water did you change?: 30-50%
Did you vacuum the substrate?: yes
Did you clean your filter, filter media, decorations and/or glass?: filter media and filter box, sponge
If using disposable cartridges have you replaced one recently?: NA


*Parameters - Very Important
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.
Tank water:
Ammonia: 00
Nitrite:00
Nitrate: 80
pH: 6.7

Explain your cycling problem in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the problem leading up to now).

It's been fine until 10 days ago, when nitrate shot up to 80. I've. been doing water changes and bacteria every othger day but they are not helping. Did it crash? All critters acting fine


Tank 2: The new tank for the betta.
Would he be better off in here. I've done many fish in cycles
What is the water volume of the tank?: 10 gallon
What type of water are you using in your tank? (tap, well, RO/DI, other): Distilled
When did you start cycling the tank?: 3/29/26 3 days
What type of filtration are you rning on this tank? (sponge, HOB, canister, other): sponge filter from another stable tank with established bacteria colony
If canister or HOB list all the media you are running in it. (manufactured cartridges, sponge, etc.):
Do you have good water agitation/surface movement?: yes
What is the water temperature?: 80.4F


If fish in cycling
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts): 5 ember tetras
How often do you feed them and how much?: once a day, a pinch of AC Magic Small Fish Food
Are they showing signs of distress? (fish hiding, staying at the top, looking pale, torn fins, etc): none.
Do you have live plants in the tank?: yes, and driftwood and rocks, see photo
If so are they healthy and actively growing?: the plants, yes


Products used while cycling:

Microbe-Lift Nite-Out II Nitrifying Aquarium Bacteria​

Testing and cycling process
What was your knowledge of the nitrogen cycle before beginning to cycle your tank? (none, beginner, intermediate (please explain), advanced): intermediate. I've been fishkeepibg and cycline tanks since June, 2025
What do you use to test the water? (API liquid, test strips, other): API Master Kit, GH and KH, and TDS meter
Did you test your tap water for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH, if so post the results below?: NA
Have you done any water changes and if so, when?: Yes Saturday and today
How much water did you change?: 20%
Did you vacuum the substrate?: No, it's a new tank
Did you clean your filter, filter media, decorations and/or glass?: No, it's a new tank
If using disposable cartridges have you replaced one recently?: NA


*Parameters - Very Important
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.
Tank water:
Ammonia: 0.5
Nitrite: 0.25
Nitrate: 5.0
pH: 6.4

Explain your cycling problem in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the problem leading up to now)
 

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Add pothos, monstera, philodendrons, syngonium from the top. End of story.

Once submersed plant biomass grows and the substrates depletes, you can take the terrestrial plants out and you'll soon be adding nitrates to support plant life...
 

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I'd probably go with the 10 gallon. It will give you more options in terms of scaping and stocking. There's nothing wrong with the 5 gallon though.

Also, considering your betta would probably be perfectly happy in a pH of 5.0, I don't think your pH of 6.7 is low.
 
This ^^^. 6.7PH is perfection unless you’re shooting for a more blackwater type tank.

Is that pic current 5 gal?

My thoughts if that is the correct assumption. Aquasoil way to thick on left end. Aquasoil is very heavy in organic matter. At 5-6mo in as this tank is I would fully expect nitrogen conversion of that organic matter to escalate. Should be no deeper than 1-1.5” max anywhere in this tank.

Also the lack of any floating/high metabolism/betta friendly plants that will literally suck down any nitrates/nitrogen compounds to near zero in this tank is concerning to say the least, especially from someone who calls themself MagnifcentBett.

I wouldn’t even consider that tank for a betta habitat without them.
 
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No that was the 10 gallon in the OP. which I have since shifted him over to. I see that the pic of the 5 didn't up load

I created the contouring left and back with bags of leftover controsand. so the substrate isn't actually that deep. But on the right I could take some out.

More plants have been planted. I'm floating some extra Ludwigia repens (a good nitrate absorver) while I look for the floaters I want, including water spangles and miniature water lettuce. I love hornwort but it might be too large for the tank.

DaveKS, you have been a great help to me since I joined and I've really appreciated your input. But the end of your post here was jarring. SInce you commented the followoing in public, I will answer here after much thought.

You wrote:
Also the lack of any floating/high metabolism/betta friendly plants that will literally suck down any nitrates/nitrogen compounds to near zero in this tank is concerning to say the least, especially from someone who calls themself MagnifcentBett. I wouldn’t even consider that tank for a betta habitat without them.

Now I know that you thought you were were looking at a five gallon. As I said, it's a 10. That's beside the point. This paragraph came across, regardless of your intent, as rude and seriously condescending, "especially from someone who calls themself MagnifcentBett." is shaming. This is one of the few forums that doesn't have much of that type of rudeness. Let's keep it that way, shall we?
 

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This ^^^. 6.7PH is perfection unless you’re shooting for a more blackwater type tank.

Is that pic current 5 gal?

My thoughts if that is the correct assumption. Aquasoil way to thick on left end. Aquasoil is very heavy in organic matter. At 5-6mo in as this tank is I would fully expect nitrogen conversion of that organic matter to escalate. Should be no deeper than 1-1.5” max anywhere in this tank.

Also the lack of any floating/high metabolism/betta friendly plants that will literally suck down any nitrates/nitrogen compounds to near zero in this tank is concerning to say the least, especially from someone who calls themself MagnifcentBett.

I wouldn’t even consider that tank for a betta habitat without them.
Ugh I have like 5” of Amazonia Ada version 2 in my now cycling tank. I have since added many more plants. IMG_0373.jpeg
 
This paragraph came across, regardless of your intent, as rude and seriously condescending, "especially from someone who calls themself MagnifcentBett." is shaming. This is one of the few forums that doesn't have much of that type of rudeness. Let's keep it that way, shall we?

I agree and sincerely apologize. Sometimes, heck, many times I just blurt out my opinion without tempering the output language into a more civilized tone. You are not the first person to accuse me of being condescending either online or even in person regardless of subject.

Again, I’m sorry and really am trying to learn to filter the wording of my responses better.
 
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I agree and sincerely apologize. Sometimes, heck, many times I just blurt out my opinion without tempering the output language into a more civilized tone. You are not the first person to accuse me of being condescending either online or even in person regardless of subject.

Again, I’m sorry and really am trying to learn to filter the wording of my responses better.
I really appreciate that. Apology accepted.
 
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