Snow White guppy body color?

[TonyY]

Aren’t the female suppose to be blonde base like the male? I’m confused.

 

[Latrell]

She’s is a blonde just not the standard “yellow” blonde. She’s more of a “white” blonde, probably her Xanthophores are muted more over her Iridaphores because of the platinum gene she carry, typical in Snow White morphs. Not 100%

 

[emeraldking]

Not all Snow Whites have a blond base color with sufficient xanthophores which results in this base color. This is normal in this strain. It can also happen in males. There's a difference in these socalled Snow white guppies in comparison to the normal platinum white guppies. The commercial bred Snow Whites also carry the magenta gene. Which the higher grade platinum white guppies are lacking.

 

[TonyY]

Not all Snow Whites have a blond base color with sufficient xanthophores which results in this base color. This is normal in this strain. It can also happen in males. There's a difference in these socalled Snow white guppies in comparison to the normal platinum white guppies. The commercial bred Snow Whites also carry the magenta gene. Which the higher grade platinum white guppies are lacking.

Got any male pics with this base color? Most commercial Snow White male carry “yellow” mouth with them, which confused me a lot when I first saw them.

That reminds me of three color variations that blue topaz has.

 

[emeraldking]

Got any male pics with this base color?

The two pics above show males with a normal blond base color.
Th pic below shows a white base color with a low concentration of leucophores (white color cells) which makes the body look translucent. These are seethru guppies. And the most known ones of seethru guppies are the glass belly guppies. In this case the white base color is a combination of double recessive, blau + gold + albino.

Most commercial Snow White male carry “yellow” mouth with them, which confused me a lot when I first saw them.

That's because second color doesn't always cover the whole blond base color. Which happens a lot around the mouth. If you want to have a 100% coverage of white, you need to linebreed them selectively. For the ones you have access to through retail are mass produced specimens where no selection on quality is at hand. This means that the better phenotypes will remain mixed with the lower grade ones. And the reality is that when lower grades are mixed, the lower grades will outcompete the higher grades. But that can be fixed by selecting the best ones and linebreed them. And cull in every generation until it's a full white body phenotype.

Note: The base color is the color they are born with. The color(s) they'll get when aging is/are the second color(s).

 

[TonyY]

low concentration of leucophores (white color cells)

So leucophores is the silver layer of the belly while iridophores is the metallic greenish/blueish on the body?
I have heard that panda guppies carried the blau, right?

 

[emeraldking]

I have heard that panda guppies carried the blau, right?

Yes. But there are two different panda guppy strains when we look at the black/white males. The most common one is the dwarf panda guppy where males carry blau, pink and moscow. The females however carry pink. The bigger panda guppy strain, the males carry blue and moscow while the females carry blau and moscow as well.

 

[TonyY]

The commercial bred Snow Whites also carry the magenta gene. Which the higher grade platinum white guppies are lacking.

Are these snow white who lacks the magenta gene?

 

[emeraldking]

Are these snow white who lacks the magenta gene?

Yes, these lack the magenta gene. But I believe I've already answered that elsewhere.

 

[Whitewolf]

Alot of my snow white females are just clear rather plain looking

 

[emeraldking]

Alot of my snow white females are just clear rather plain looking

That's quite normal. And again, the blonde base color comes in several intensities (both sexes). This can also effects the second color (white in this case). But most females won't get this second color unlike the males. But in case you're dealing with XY females (so, not XX), such females can also show a second color on top of the base color. This could be in the skin (mostly the saddle or total flanks) or even the dorsal (for most females have a clear dorsal and a white tail when they're XX females).

 

[TonyY]

That's quite normal. And again, the blonde base color comes in several intensities (both sexes). This can also effects the second color (white in this case). But most females won't get this second color unlike the males. But in case you're dealing with XY females (so, not XX), such females can also show a second color on top of the base color. This could be in the skin (mostly the saddle or total flanks) or even the dorsal (for most females have a clear dorsal and a white tail when they're XX females).

Like this?

 

[emeraldking]

Yes!