I have a guppy problem.

[Newbie3141]

hello guys,
ummm.....so I hv got a female guppy problem.....
So, here's a lil timeline of wht happened....I bought 4 female guppies frm the store on the sunday mornin....as soon as I got home one of em inside the bag wasn't movin...she was breathin tho....I acclimated em n put em inside my tank....the othr 3 were doin f9 but that one wasnt movin n jus layin at the top of the tank...she died within like 12 hrs.....the othr 3 were doin f9 the ntire day but today whn I woke up I saw of em already died n the othr 2 ain't movin n jus layin at the top...they all hv lost their tail colors...n their tail seems a lil ripped too....
This mostly happens...nearly 50-60% of the fish I buy die within 2-3 days of I buyin em.....n the rest r still alive....what do u guys assume is going wrong? Is their somethin wrong at my side or the stores r keepin em in bad condition?
I hv 5 male rosy barbs, 2 male guppies in a 12 gallon tank....

 

[SinisterCichlids]

Hello, might be best to answer these questions first and then more people will be able to help you! Best of luck
Aquatic Emergency Template | Freshwater Fish Disease and Health Forum

 

[Noroomforshoe]

Hello, welcome to fishlore hope we can help!

Do other species die or were the guppies the first with this?
How did you acclimate the fish and how long were they in the bag before you opened the bag,?
Is the tank cycled?

Do you have rosey barbs or did you mean cherry barbs?
Cherry barbs could be kept in a 12-gallon, but I would personally not recommend a less than 20 gallon for them. But rosey barbs are very large fat chunky fish that get to 6 incheas each. a school of 6 could be kept in a 55 gallon/48 inch long tank, but even then they are cumbersome large fish.

can you copy, paste and fill out the emergency template please?

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[Newbie3141]

Thnk you so much for the reply….
Water volume is around 12 gallons….
Yes I do have a power filter
Yup I do have a heater but I m not usin it currently as its hot out here already
The water temp is around 30C/86F
I have 2 male guppies( have for nearly over a month), 5 male rosy barbs( 2 for nearly 3 mnths, 3 for nearly 2 mths)
I'v change around 50% of the water the day before I got the female guppies
I normally do around 30% of water change once every 2 weeks but this time I did more because I saw few white spots on one of the barbs….have been treating it for nearly a week & the spots are still there (on only that particular barb), did some research, asked few ppl on the internet and I’m thinkin those are not ich & something else….
so discontinued the treatment (meth blue)…( bought the guppies the next day because I went to the pet store to get some salt & couldn’t resist, I know, I‘m stupid & I should have waited for a few weeks after the treatment)
I use dechlorinated & nothin else
Yes I do vacuum the substrate
The tank wasn't cycled when my parents bought it from the store( 3 months ago)
I don’t have a test kit, I have a thermometer, a tds monitor some ph papers & that’s it…..( its hard to find a test kit here
I don’t have any idea ammonia, nitrite & nitrate Ph-around 7
I feed them Twice a day around 2 flakes per fish per session
It’s a pop brand floatin flakes called optimum….ocassionaly I feed em peas/veggies
Nope I don’t feed them frozen/dried foods I‘ve had the female guppies for less than a day
They all lost their colors, some pieces of their tail got ripped off and all of them seems to be staying at the top at of the tank every time and 2 of em are already dead
One of my rosy barb has a few white spots on his fins, other than that he seems healthy, eating & active…recently I saw one of his right fins has a red mark( I don’t know what that is)
I got no time for the treatment of the guppies as they died so quick…but I have been treating the barbs & the 2 male guppies I had for around a week for Ich with meth blue & acriflavin before I got the guppies…
All of them had slight tail discoloration upon purchase, one of them had a very small part of its tail missing but nothing else…. 1 of the female guppies wasn't moving at all since she was in the bag she came in, rest were doin fine, she died first & just after 12 hrs or so another one died( the next morning) & the rest aint moving at all, just stayed at the top and also lost all their tail fin colors....I have also attached the before and after image of the fish....
I have also attached the fish with the white spot

 

[Noroomforshoe]

You need to get a test kit. Your tank may not be cycled.
You need to get a much larger tank, at least 48 inches long within 3-6 months, or you need to return or rehome the rosy barbs. You can replace them with cherry barbs or other small fish after the test kits confirm that your tank is cycled.

 

[Newbie3141]

You need to get a test kit. Your tank may not be cycled.
You need to get a much larger tank, at least 48 inches long within 3-6 months, or you need to return or rehome the rosy barbs. You can replace them with cherry barbs or other small fish after the test kits confirm that your tank is cycled.

ohk, So is the tank size too small for the barbs? I didn't realize that...

 

[Noroomforshoe]

Rosey barbs are very large fat chunky fish that get to 6 inches each. a school of 6 could be kept in a 55-gallon/48-inch long tank, but even then they are cumbersome large fish that take up a lot of room and make a lot of waste.

 

[Newbie3141]

Rosey barbs are very large fat chunky fish that get to 6 inches each. a school of 6 could be kept in a 55-gallon/48-inch long tank, but even then they are cumbersome large fish that take up a lot of room and make a lot of waste.

oh! I didn’t know that before…I did some research before buying them and expected them to not grow more than 3 inches....but I will have to upgrade my tank in this case
Thank you