Contemplating Canister Filter, Best To Get?

I have never used the g6 or seen anyone else have one, so do lots of research... the g6 looks way to fancy for me lol.

Lots of pretty pictures
 

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Hehe, I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't



I don't think it really matters. I'm all about real world application There is MORE than enough media capacity in 2 of the 304s to handle anything I will put in a 125, and I already know that they suck up all the waste in the tank and that they won't need to be cleaned more than twice a year. What else is there to want?

Sumps are nice - definitely a good option for larger tanks. I just don't have a need for one. I actually have an acrylic wet/dry sitting under my 125 (came with the tank). I think I'm storing things in it.

what else is there to want? what if einstein said that? you never know what theyll come out with next I'm just trying to find the best and the fx5 was by far the best when I was shopping imo.

I just wanted to know... the fx5 says its pump turns over 900 GPH but only delivers around 500 GPH when it is full of media and running. so I just doubt that the sunsun is actually 500 GPH.

I think I'm going to turn my 40 gallon breeder or my 33g long into a sump/refugium for my 75g. it will be if someone breeds and becomes to aggressive I can move them into the sump. and I have not had a sump yet so I have to fix that
 
I just wanted to know... the fx5 says its pump turns over 900 GPH but only delivers around 500 GPH when it is full of media and running. so I just doubt that the sunsun is actually 500 GPH.

No, it definitely does not. Especially when it's as packed as mine are. I'm just saying that they do everything I ask of them, and I ask a lot, so I have no interest in finding out
 
No, it definitely does not. Especially when it's as packed as mine are. I'm just saying that they do everything I ask of them, and I ask a lot, so I have no interest in finding out

gosh some people are so stubborn

I have gravel so I can't really see any dirt. so its hard to tell how much stuff would be sitting on my sand if I had any. I might actually switch to sand when/if I move. I did have a couple fish die.. a young severum and young RTS they both ended up in my fx5 intake so it must be working, lol and at the same time.
 

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So... Jaysee your thoughts on this?

ill be jaysee... its a overpriced, unnecessary gimmick. lol, but that might be a accurate description.

you know I'm only playing around jaysee

if I can't understand how it works I don't but it lol. that thing is a lil over my head if I had some time with one maybe I would think its the best filter ever. I looked at these when I was looking but could not find enough info/reviews on them.
 
ill be jaysee... its a overpriced, unnecessary gimmick. lol, but that might be a accurate description.

you know I'm only playing around jaysee

if I can't understand how it works I don't but it lol. that thing is a lil over my head if I had some time with one maybe I would think its the best filter ever. I looked at these when I was looking but could not find enough info/reviews on them.
There is only one way to find out. Someone buy it for me!
 
Its on sale? I have always been eyeballing it but was put off due to price. I will buy it and replace my aging 206 and of course report back on it. It might be overkill for me though because I have a 29g. The G6 alone puts me near10x lol.

Edit: looks like the G3 is also on sale. I am going to pick that one up instead.
 
ill be jaysee... its a overpriced, unnecessary gimmick. lol, but that might be a accurate description.

you know I'm only playing around jaysee .

Hahahaha, that's exactly what I said in in PM

If I thought that they were worth the money I would be using them. The first sentence of the product description says it all - it's a flashy techno filter. Put the filter on display?? Like anyone has room for that. The nice thing about cabinet stands is the clean look. And guess what, if the filter is out then so are the hoses.

Changing/changing the media is now easy! That's because you have to use cartridges. You cannot customize your media. Now I don't clean my filters more than twice a year, so that's not a selling point for me.

Conductivity meter? Who cares. I've not needed to know it yet - I won't in the future either. Just a gimmick IMO. Its got a ton of bells and whistles, but how necessary are they?? No one on the forum has a G6 that I've seen. It's amazing our fish are still alive without it That's the power of marketing.

I'm sure it's a very nice filter. If money is burning a hole in your pocket, then you definitely should get one. But, filters all work the same way - electricity spins an magnet in the motor that in turn spins the impeller, forcing water out of the filter and into the tank
 
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Its all fancy pants and it would be going into a cabinet... my concern is just my fish and what's best for them...
 

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The reason I see no value in it is because I have a very hands off style of fish keeping. I don't ever test my water - I do regular water changes, so the test results are meaningless to me. If you are someone that wants to know every little detail of your fish tank, then that is the filter for you. Are your fish better off because you know all that stuff? I don't think so, but maybe they are. You love your UGFs. Going from that to a G6 is like going from a biplane to an F16. Get one and let us know if your fish are better off than with the UGFs. Not sure how you would measure that though....
 
remember they aren't selling these filters to the fish if they were they would market them with built in auto feeders that feed every 5min lol.

id like to see more canisters with a spot to add a heater in the filter.

if I had the money I would look into dosing pumps. that way I would not have to dose my fertilizers in my planted tanks every day. now that is a worth wild thing imo.
 
Personally, I think that 'fancy pants' filter is just over-priced-techno-gadgetry for people who have too much money they don't know what to do with. That filter isn't going to provide any health benefit to fish, that other canister filters can't do for half the price. In the end I think most canister filters are basically very much the same... they all pump water in and out of your tank... while pushing it through various types of tubing and filter media. Water goes in dirty and comes out cleaner. The biggest question to ask yourself is how many GPH you want your system to have and then go from there.

Take my input with a grain of salt... I am a budget minded individual that is all about getting the most bang for the buck. I could never see spending so much money on something that isn't going to really provide any mechanical, chemical or biological advantage over what a SunSun or Rena Filstar can provide.
 
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LoL... I'm sorry guys.. The point of my post is just the fact I can aquascape and make sure my fishies are well taken care of...

Bottom line is the SunSun seems to be the Solution though I am still trying to understand the point of 2....
 
because one is not enough for a 120 gallon tank. did you see all the filters I have on my 125 gallon? I do think my 125 is a lil overstocked though...
 
More gallons per hour moved through a filter means cleaner water. 2 just doubles your filtration and in the case of those SunSuns, doubles the amount of time your water is hitting UV rays killing bad stuff!
 
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Okay ...

NEXT...

Noise... we already had a few people talk about canister noise in which I can rattle off hand ginger saying he had to put her ear up to her fluvial to hear it running...

How is the noise on the SunSun?
 

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They're quiet. When I first got them I had to check that they were still on.
 
One thing you want to be aware of, is that the rubber feet underneath can come off. The filter is very heavy when full of water (it's a big filter), and pulling it out of the cabinet is cumbersome, so that shear strain can pop them off. The fit back in and don't go anywhere, but that's a heads up.
 
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They're quiet. When I first got them I had to check that they were still on.

When you first got them? So they are a little noisy now?
 
When you first got them? So they are a little noisy now?

Hahah no, I don't check anymore My sunsuns spraybars are mounted vertically, pushing water along the back of the tank to the XP intakes (their spraybars are mounted on the side glass). That's why I wasn't able to really tell just by looking at the water surface.
 
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Well... Then its settled... you guys have been great and I appreciate all your input... So to take a new step...

Could you guys post pics of how you have your canister tubing set up in the tank so I can get idea's to correctly install...
 

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Thank you Jaysee...How does the tubing look on the outside... If you can't tell I am stressed about this move a little...
 
That's one big ol' java fern afro you got there.

Used to be bigger - had to cut it back. It spans substrate to surface. Used to be front to back, and more than 30 inches long. Now it's just 20 inches long.


The tubing of the filters? It just runs down the back of the tank to the filter.
 
Used to be bigger - had to cut it back. It spans substrate to surface. Used to be front to back, and more than 30 inches long. Now it's just 20 inches long.

That's some high maintenance. I use to have one about half as big, but decided on removing it due to the constant trimming, and pulling of stray fern leaves off , well, everything that wasn't the fern. lol

Looks great though -- extremely healthy!
 
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I am thanking god right now because those bars look putrid and I have 2-6 inch wide black strips on the left and right side of my tank... that will hide those nicely
 
Yeah, I'm not thrilled that the XP intake is blue - I just never got around to painting it black. To be honest, I don't even notice them because of the fish...

 
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Even my UGF bothers me seeing the clear tubes... BUT it has always been a better option than an HOB for me... big ole chunky box hanging on a tank...

No lie the fact that this is black and thinner than my ugf tubing in my tank, I could conceal this better...this really is beginning to interest me in a more positive way...
 
Sorry to be off-topic Jaysee, but love the rainbows!
 

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Okay ...

NEXT...

Noise... we already had a few people talk about canister noise in which I can rattle off hand ginger saying he had to put her ear up to her fluvial to hear it running...

How is the noise on the SunSun?

I can't even hear my SunSun at all. It is completely silent.
 
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I just thought of something very important... with all these canisters and all of them basically the same shape and design... what about the media filters? Do they all fit each other?
 
Mechanical media is specific to the filter. The rest is interchangeable.
 
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So in layman's terms the parts are not interchangeable but the actual filters are?
 
So in layman's terms the parts are not interchangeable but the actual filters are?

What parts?

The things that are specific to the particular filter you get are the media baskets, the mechanical media, and the quick connect part (connects the hoses to the filter). Any hose will do, as Lon as its the right diameter, and any intake/spraybar/nozzle will work, as long as it fits the hose that fits the quick connect.
 
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Ugh okay here goes a bunch more questions...

1x Input and Output Discreteness
1x Barrel Head
1x Canister Filter
2x 5 feet lengths of flexible tubing <--- can this tubing be bought at a local store for longer length
1x Draining Tray Cover
4x Draining Trays
1x Output Curvy Bar <--- what is this?
1x Input Curvy Bar <--- and this?
2x Connected Bars
2x Spray Bars
1x Spray Bar Cover
1x Dirtiness entrance <--- lost me on what this could be?
1x Joint of Dirtiness entrance <--- and this lost me...
1x Input Bars
1x Input Cover
3x white-fine Pad Cottons pads <--- are these made specific & types or can you pick up any brand to fit?
4x Suction Cup
1x 9W UV light Bulb
 
Flexible tubing. It is my reading that the longer than recommended tubing = less effective filter

The curvy parts are the things that hook onto the back of the aquarium to hold the tubing coming up from the filter and over the tank top to down into the tank. Basically the u-turn of the intake and outtake
 
Ugh okay here goes a bunch more questions...

1x Input and Output Discreteness
1x Barrel Head
1x Canister Filter
2x 5 feet lengths of flexible tubing <--- can this tubing be bought at a local store for longer length
1x Draining Tray Cover
4x Draining Trays
1x Output Curvy Bar <--- what is this?
1x Input Curvy Bar <--- and this?
2x Connected Bars
2x Spray Bars
1x Spray Bar Cover
1x Dirtiness entrance <--- lost me on what this could be?
1x Joint of Dirtiness entrance <--- and this lost me...
1x Input Bars
1x Input Cover
3x white-fine Pad Cottons pads <--- are these made specific & types or can you pick up any brand to fit?
4x Suction Cup
1x 9W UV light Bulb

There's only one way to set it up . Everything comes together.

The pads are the mechanical media and are specific to the filter. You could cut out pieces from a sheet to fit, like the blue and white filter media.
 
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Now... I see why I stuck with UGF's whenever I had a fish tank...I knew what I was doing...

BUT then again never had a tank this big either... though even all the big aquariums used UGF's as well...
 
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