Anubis’s Plants

[Anthony1976]

hI just wondering if anyone can help me my Anubias plants aren’t looking too good at the moment and I’m at a loss as to why this is. I dose with flourish twice a week and also add potassium and iron. I have very hard water in my area and am trying to reduce my ph slowly. Could you please take a look at the picture and give me your opinion . It’s a low tech 165litre tank and I don’t have co2. By what I’ve been reading it looks like a magnesium deficiency but doesn’t flourish have this in it?
Thanks in advance

I’m just wondering if too much light is the issue? I don’t have a very strong light it’s just a aqua one eco glo 29 w

 

[kallililly1973]

Not 100% what the deficiency is but Flourish only has tiny traces of "some" plant nutrients. You would be much better off either using up your bottle and switching to NilogThrive. It is a great all in one easy to use fertilizer that has all the nutrients your plants need to flourish.
Also what size tank and how long has it been set up for. Can u reach in and rub any of that stuff off the leaves gently with your fingers by chance?

 

[WillR1496]

Mine used to look like that. I cut back on how long I kept my lights on, lowered the temp and I switched to Niloc ThriveC. The day I started all that, I did a water change and scrubbed the plants with a soft toothbrush. I got what I could off the plants and put them back in. Since then, I haven't had it happen again.

 

[Anthony1976]

Not 100% what the deficiency is but Flourish only has tiny traces of "some" plant nutrients. You would be much better off either using up your bottle and switching to NilogThrive. It is a great all in one easy to use fertilizer that has all the nutrients your plants need to flourish.
Also what size tank and how long has it been set up for. Can u reach in and rub any of that stuff off the leaves gently with your fingers by chance?

Thanks for the reply it’s been running for around 7 months and it’s a 165 litre just over 40 gallon I do try to clean the leaves with with a sponge when I do water changes it does come off but the veins stay dark I’m baffled as to what is wrong

Mine used to look like that. I cut back on how long I kept my lights on, lowered the temp and I switched to Niloc ThriveC. The day I started all that, I did a water change and scrubbed the plants with a soft toothbrush. I got what I could off the plants and put them back in. Since then, I haven't had it happen again.

Oh right so you think maybe too much light?

Oh right so you think maybe too much light?

I have tried to get the thrive stuff but it doesn’t seem to be available here in Australia

 

[WillR1496]

Oh right so you think maybe too much light?

That could be 1 issue. I also had a temp "issue" as I kept the temp around 80F. I lowered it so that it's around 74-76F. The fish and shrimp in my tank are okay with 72-76F. I was also using Flourish and didn't see a difference in anything. When I changed to ThriveC, my plants started to grow like crazy for being a low-tech tank.

 

[Anthony1976]

That could be 1 issue. I also had a temp "issue" as I kept the temp around 80F. I lowered it so that it's around 74-76F. The fish and shrimp in my tank are okay with 72-76F. I was also using Flourish and didn't see a difference in anything. When I changed to ThriveC, my plants started to grow like crazy for being a low-tech tank.

My temp is 25-26 just checked now

 

[kallililly1973]

I have tried to get the thrive stuff but it doesn’t seem to be available here in Australia

Hopefully others will chime in with a suggestion for a similar all in one fertilizer you can get there. Good luck!

 

[Anthony1976]

Hopefully others will chime in with a suggestion for a similar all in one fertilizer you can get there. Good luck!

Much appreciated thankyou

 

[Wraithen]

I believe tropical makes an all in one that may be easier to get there.

 

[-Mak-]

It does look like magnesium deficiency. You could buy individual seachem bottles if you can’t find anything else. The one for magnesium and calcium would be Equilibrium, which is a dry fert technically.

 

[Anthony1976]

It does look like magnesium deficiency. You could buy individual seachem bottles if you can’t find anything else. The one for magnesium and calcium would be Equilibrium, which is a dry fert technically.

Thanks very much I will try to get hold of some but my water is pretty hard wouldn’t this already be in my tap water ?

 

[Wraithen]

Thanks very much I will try to get hold of some but my water is pretty hard wouldn’t this already be in my tap water ?

No. Hard water can be solely from 1 thing, though it is usually from several. It could, for example, just be from iron.

 

[Nick72]

It does look like magnesium deficiency. You could buy individual seachem bottles if you can’t find anything else. The one for magnesium and calcium would be Equilibrium, which is a dry fert technically.

I agree with magnesium deficiency.

I use 2.5 teaspoons of Epsom Salts in my 50g, once a week after water change.

This provides all the magnesium the plants need. Its extremely cheap, and the fish seem to like it as well.

 

[Anthony1976]

I agree with magnesium deficiency.

I use 2.5 teaspoons of Epsom Salts in my 50g, once a week after water change.

This provides all the magnesium the plants need. Its extremely cheap, and the fish seem to like it as well.

Thanks for that nick what dose would you recommend for my 165 litre aquarium? And is it safe to use and will it raise the ph?
Much appreciated thankyou

 

[Nick72]

Thanks for that nick what dose would you recommend for my 165 litre aquarium? And is it safe to use and will it raise the ph?
Much appreciated thankyou

I would suggest 2 teaspoons. Then 2 more teaspoons at each 50% water change.

Yes it is safe as long as you use plain Epsom Salts without any additional perfumes or additives.

I bought this box from my local pharmacy for a couple of dollars.



It will last me for a few years.

It will not effect your PH.

 

[Anthony1976]

I would suggest 2 teaspoons. Then 2 more teaspoons at each 50% water change.

Yes it is safe as long as you use plain Epsom Salts without any additional perfumes or additives.

I bought this box from my local pharmacy for a couple of dollars.

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It will last me for a few years.

It will not effect your PH.

Thanks for the advice I have just put a couple of teaspoons in there I will do it again after my water change. Fingers crossed it will work but I guess I will only see a difference in a few weeks as they are slow Growing plants. I will let you know the outcome thanks very much

 

[Nick72]

Thanks for the advice I have just put a couple of teaspoons in there I will do it again after my water change. Fingers crossed it will work but I guess I will only see a difference in a few weeks as they are slow Growing plants. I will let you know the outcome thanks very much

Once you're plant's leaves are showing the signs of a deficiency nothing you do will repair the damage.

Adding the missing nutrients will however allow new leaves to grow without the signs of deficiency.

So you're are right, you will not see an immediate improvement, but new leaves should fair better.

 

[Anthony1976]

Once you're plant's leaves are showing the signs of a deficiency nothing you do will repair the damage.

Adding the missing nutrients will however allow new leaves to grow without the signs of deficiency.

So you're are right, you will not see an immediate improvement, but new leaves should fair better.

Yeah I thought so, would removing the damaged leaves after a while do any harm to it?

 

[Nick72]

Yeah I thought so, would removing the damaged leaves after a while do any harm to it?

Not sure.

But I know someone who would know.

SeattleRoy - any thoughts on this?

 

[Wraithen]

Yeah I thought so, would removing the damaged leaves after a while do any harm to it?

No. Damaged leaves take more work to try to repair than new leaves growing. It just will look like a smaller plant for a while. I would personally wait for some healthy new leaves to grow before trimming leaves with the magnesium deficiency though. I think they look kind of cool.

 

[SeattleRoy]

View attachment 564285 hI just wondering if anyone can help me my Anubias plants aren’t looking too good at the moment and I’m at a loss as to why this is. I dose with flourish twice a week and also add potassium and iron. I have very hard water in my area and am trying to reduce my ph slowly. Could you please take a look at the picture and give me your opinion . It’s a low tech 165litre tank and I don’t have co2. By what I’ve been reading it looks like a magnesium deficiency but doesn’t flourish have this in it?
Thanks in advance

I’m just wondering if too much light is the issue? I don’t have a very strong light it’s just a aqua one eco glo 29 w

HI Anthony1976

-Mak- and Nick72 are correct, the interveinal chlorosis on the older leaves coupled with the newest leaf showing showing minimal interveinal chlorosis would indicate a nutrient issue - specifically magnesium (Mg). Seachem Flourish does contain a very small amount (0.11%) of magnesium however if your water is 'hard' it is likely that it contains a lot of calcium (Ca). According to Mulders Chart of nutrient interactions an excess of calcium can interfere with (i.e. reduce) the uptake of magnesium


Since you already have 'hard' water I would suggest just adding additional magnesium for the next month or so and observe the results. The dosage of Epsom Salt (MgSO4*7H2O / magnesium sulfate) recommended by Nick72 will provide you with approximately 6.6 ppm of Mg and should reduce or eliminate the symptoms when your new leaves emerge and mature. Epson Salt contains no carbonates so it should not effect the pH or your tank. The suggested dosage will increase the hardness of the tank sightly by 1.53 dGH.

Keep in mind that the existing leaves will not change, the magnesium deficiency is not reversible. Instead watch your new leaves as they emerge and mature. They should be more uniformly green and more importantly as they mature they should not develop the interveinal chlorosis we see in the existing leaves.

 

[Anthony1976]

Thanks everyone I’ve been away for a few days so only just read the posts. I can definitely say that the anubias are looking a lot better and I’m also getting a lot more leaves coming too but I’m thinking this might be because of the iron I dose also . Thanks everyone for taking the time out to help me I really appreciate and maybe when I get a bit more experienced I can help others too. I have attached a picture of a plant I just purchased but it didn’t have a name on it. Could you guys take a look to see what it is and whether they are root feeders mainly or through the leaves more?

Thanks in advance

 

[Wraithen]

If I had to guess I'd say cryptocoryne lutea, but I could be way off. It looks like a crypt regardless. They feed from wherever they can. Roots and water column

 

[DoubleDutch]

If I had to guess I'd say cryptocoryne lutea, but I could be way off. It looks like a crypt regardless. They feed from wherever they can. Roots and water column

A crypt for sure. Reminds me of a C.wendtii.