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Tank looks stellar !
Good chance the particles you see[ that don't really show in pics ] are from the plants .
Much to most peoples surprise plants do create waste ….
My money says you will have little you can do about it with live plants ..
As long as your mechanicals are catching junk then all is well.
 

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Looks terrific!

Is there any evidence behind the idea of nitrates causing decreased clarity? I've never heard this and tend to doubt that it's possible. What led you to that conclusion?

It's a shame that we will probably never know what is keeping your nitrates low. I tend to agree that it is the plants, and that the baskets are not doing that much, but you seem less enamoured with them now than before as well. Has something changed your opinions?

I've watched the video you linked, as well as a number of others, and I must say that I don't feel a great deal of trust towards the aquarist presenting them. He never talks about his aquarium; it's always his "SCA aquarium". Who says that? Someone with an agenda to promote a product from which he achieves financial gain.

Unfortunately, the term Biocenosis Clarification Basket sounds very used-car-salesman-ish as well. Those words all have specific meanings, and putting them together in this fashion doesn't change the fact that they are not really relevant to each other or to the function this product is supposed to perform. All they do is sound impressive and techy.

I hope you keep us updated periodically on this tank. It's progress so far is encouraging, but I think we all want to know how this tank will be doing a year or more down the road. That long term success will be the proof of the pudding.
 

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Tank looks stellar !
Good chance the particles you see[ that don't really show in pics ] are from the plants .
Much to most peoples surprise plants do create waste ….
My money says you will have little you can do about it with live plants ..
As long as your mechanicals are catching junk then all is well.

That makes sense, this seems most likely now.

Looks terrific!

Is there any evidence behind the idea of nitrates causing decreased clarity? I've never heard this and tend to doubt that it's possible. What led you to that conclusion?

It's a shame that we will probably never know what is keeping your nitrates low. I tend to agree that it is the plants, and that the baskets are not doing that much, but you seem less enamoured with them now than before as well. Has something changed your opinions?

I've watched the video you linked, as well as a number of others, and I must say that I don't feel a great deal of trust towards the aquarist presenting them. He never talks about his aquarium; it's always his "SCA aquarium". Who says that? Someone with an agenda to promote a product from which he achieves financial gain.

Unfortunately, the term Biocenosis Clarification Basket sounds very used-car-salesman-ish as well. Those words all have specific meanings, and putting them together in this fashion doesn't change the fact that they are not really relevant to each other or to the function this product is supposed to perform. All they do is sound impressive and techy.

I hope you keep us updated periodically on this tank. It's progress so far is encouraging, but I think we all want to know how this tank will be doing a year or more down the road. That long term success will be the proof of the pudding.

Think I'm wrong anout nitrates. In the past with high nitrates the clarity appeared worse.

The baskets if anything have become annoying. There is some muck at bottom and in order to clean, ill have to drain water which creates oxygen in basket. I'm tempted to replace basket with sponges.

Ill keep you updated!
 
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Starting to seen green spot algae on glass now.

Anyone have experience with dealing with this?
 
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Decided to remove basket.

Whole point of basket was to remove nitrates. My pothos and dwarf lettuce are doing that in the sump so in my opinion the basket is not required. I’ve added foams which I am hoping does not become a nitrate factory. These are after the socks.

Good thing about foams is when sump overflows over socks, it will go through foams. This was a problem before and would run into basket area with dirty water.

Found a large snail in the sump. Considered feeding to loaches but thought I’d give the guy a life inside the sump. I believe it’s the only one in there. Could clean around? Opinions?

There was no way the basket was removing nitrates, it was only a month or so. So I am hoping this has no effect on tank.

I’ve filled more area with alfagrog I had lying around spare.

Updates to follow....

Hoping for clarity now...
 

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Tiger lotus has excelled lately with a couple of leafs bigger than my hand
 

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Quite a large trim today.

S. Repens are really struggling. Thinking the roots are finding the soil underneath, quite a deep bed. I’ll fight on....

Lost a blue sheen angel yesterday ‍♂️

Maybe have been bullied but can’t confirm. Certainly not water conditions.
 

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Some Anubias added.

Plants looking good.
 

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Plants are bulking out nicely. Nice red coming through.

Some bottom level leaves are developing serious green spot algae. Any ideas why?
 

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Still very unhappy with water clarity. Particles everywhere. Never ending battle!

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrates 5
PH 7.4

I added my FX6 filter for 3 days thinking this would help but it made no difference. The particles are not getting past the socks, and even if they did, the final foam would catch them.

The water in the sump is crystal.

I can’t get my head around it. Water clarity is so important for me...

I have tonnes of purigen, lots of carbon...
 

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I have a 100 micron pad in front of a sponge in my sump right before the pump. The final polishing /cleaning before back to tank ..Yet some how debris [be it only a little ] still accumulates on the pump side ? 100 micron is pretty tight IMO. No water is ever perfectly clear although I have seen near perfect result from some who use uv sterilizers 24/7 .
They swear by them and not at them . One guy I remember had geodes and quartz in his tank and the water had to be 'crystal' clear for him no pun intended ! Might be worth a try ?
On the angel death was clearly not the largest ? Angels are mean fish .They compete for their whole lives to dominate others if not paired and hate everyone else once they pair ..
 
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I have a 100 micron pad in front of a sponge in my sump right before the pump. The final polishing /cleaning before back to tank ..Yet some how debris [be it only a little ] still accumulates on the pump side ? 100 micron is pretty tight IMO. No water is ever perfectly clear although I have seen near perfect result from some who use uv sterilizers 24/7 .
They swear by them and not at them . One guy I remember had geodes and quartz in his tank and the water had to be 'crystal' clear for him no pun intended ! Might be worth a try ?
On the angel death was clearly not the largest ? Angels are mean fish .They compete for their whole lives to dominate others if not paired and hate everyone else once they pair ..

I have no debris floating in sump. Its crystal clear which is why I'm confused. I also use a UV steriliser 24/7, might be helping but at the moment, I'm still getting green algae.

What are these geodes and quartz? You got a link?

Was a blue sheen, most colourful one in there but not the largest

I just found this thread, wow that's quite a bit of zeolite!

All zeolite has been removed
 
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I have a 100 micron pad in front of a sponge in my sump right before the pump. The final polishing /cleaning before back to tank ..Yet some how debris [be it only a little ] still accumulates on the pump side ? 100 micron is pretty tight IMO. No water is ever perfectly clear although I have seen near perfect result from some who use uv sterilizers 24/7 .
They swear by them and not at them . One guy I remember had geodes and quartz in his tank and the water had to be 'crystal' clear for him no pun intended ! Might be worth a try ?
On the angel death was clearly not the largest ? Angels are mean fish .They compete for their whole lives to dominate others if not paired and hate everyone else once they pair ..

Hoping you can help with this one.

One of the clown loaches has got whitish/greyish patches of skin. He is probably the largest of them all.

Is this normal?

Others are a really nice dark orange
 

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limnophila hippuroides Is really struggling. Strangely leaves are dying off when they go up to the middle of tank. At bottom they grow well...

Tempted to remove them
 

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Been a while. This is prior to some trimming later and a water change
 

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BIG trim
 

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Clown Loach doing well now, skin appears to have healed up nicely and still the biggest one in there
 

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CO2 has been off a week along with no liquid ferts

Not seeing much of a difference.

Some plants rearranged to open middle.
 

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