Yet another ID request thread.

[DonBaldy]

I have two plants that I don't know what they are. Bought them at one of our more popular LFS and I didn't see any names for them, but I liked the look so I bought them. I know probably not the smartest thing.

Anyone know what they are so I can do proper research?

 

[Fishfur]

The first image shows some Echinodorus - swordplants. Not sure which Ecinodorus they are as there are some 50 species & probably hundreds (maybe multiple hundreds) of hybrids & named cultivars.

The stem plant might be a Ludwigia.

 

[3Fishnight]

The red stem plant looks like an emersed grown rotala likely rotundifolia switching to its submerged (underwater) growth at the top.

 

[tinylostwine]

On the Echinodorus it looks like you have two species; the green one in the back is likely one of the grisebachii - sometime called amazon or bleheri. The one in front of it will eventually come to me also it might be in emersed form which means the current leaves would die and new leaves will grow in submersed form - i can't tell - as there are a few plants with submersed leaves similar to emersed - but i've seen that one recently so maybe if i sleep on it. Also you burying them a bit deep as they prefer the rhizome to be just breaking the surface - if the roots are short i'd leave them but in a few weeks try to raise them slightly.

I keep thinking it might be reni - it looks very similar to echinodorus reni. If it is reni then the leaves are in submersed form as the emersed leaves tend to be more green.

 

[DonBaldy]

The first image shows some Echinodorus - swordplants. Not sure which Ecinodorus they are as there are some 50 species & probably hundreds (maybe multiple hundreds) of hybrids & named cultivars.

The stem plant might be a Ludwigia.

Thank you. This gives me more of a direction to research.

The red stem plant looks like an emersed grown rotala likely rotundifolia switching to its submerged (underwater) growth at the top.

Thank you. This is the one I really liked. both plants were submerged when bought.

On the Echinodorus it looks like you have two species; the green one in the back is likely one of the grisebachii - sometime called amazon or bleheri. The one in front of it will eventually come to me also it might be in emersed form which means the current leaves would die and new leaves will grow in submersed form - i can't tell - as there are a few plants with submersed leaves similar to emersed - but i've seen that one recently so maybe if i sleep on it. Also you burying them a bit deep as they prefer the rhizome to be just breaking the surface - if the roots are short i'd leave them but in a few weeks try to raise them slightly.

I keep thinking it might be reni - it looks very similar to echinodorus reni. If it is reni then the leaves are in submersed form as the emersed leaves tend to be more green.

The green were my first plants from Petsmart and labled as Amazon Swords. The reddish ones on the left are the ones in question from LFS. While all of thier plants appear healthy I don't like that they are unlabled and going forward I won't buy plants on just a whim.

 

[Fishfur]

Thank you. This gives me more of a direction to research.


Thank you. This is the one I really liked. both plants were submerged when bought.


The green were my first plants from Petsmart and labled as Amazon Swords. The reddish ones on the left are the ones in question from LFS. While all of thier plants appear healthy I don't like that they are unlabled and going forward I won't buy plants on just a whim.

Stores always have plants submersed unless they are in tissue culture cups, because it’s the only practical way to display them.

It means they have often begun to transition into their submersed form by the time you buy one, but how far along they are in the process is extremely variable & unless the store got them from a hobbyist who grew them submersed, they are going to need time to finish transitioning.

PetSmart & similar big box stores never buy from hobbyists so their plants will always have been grown emersed unless they happen to be one of the few that only grow underwater, like Vallisnerias or Blyxa.

Mom & Pop or smaller franchises often do buy from hobbyists so they are places to look for submersed form plants, though the supply of such tends to be erratic.

Online sources like eBay & Etsy & local sales lists like Craig’s or Kijiji are good places to look too, as are aquarium clubs.

 

[tinylostwine]

Stores always have plants submersed unless they are in tissue culture cups, because it’s the only practical way to display them.

This is not true in USA. I cannot comment on elsewhere but frequently even petco and petsmart have emersed forms of aquatic plants for sale.

 

[Fishfur]

This is not true in USA. I cannot comment on elsewhere but frequently even petco and petsmart have emersed forms of aquatic plants for sale.

Really? I wish that was true around here. I’ve been in at least a dozen different stores in Ontario and aquatic plants are always displayed in tanks of water.

 

[tinylostwine]

Really? I wish that was true around here. I’ve been in at least a dozen different stores in Ontario and aquatic plants are always displayed in tanks of water.

Yes - well in petco for example some are in plastic containers and others are in tanks of water but sometime even the ones in tank of water are still in emersed form... as they haven't yet converted. Even the single dedicated aquatic store in the city i live in (of nearly 750,000 people) frequently put aquatic plants still in emersed form in tanks.

If you have petco in canada the imagin-whatever brand plants are almost always mis-labeled or generically labelled are in emersed form.

 

[Fishfur]

. Even the single dedicated aquatic store in the city i live in (of nearly 750,000 people) frequently put aquatic plants still in emersed form in tanks.

If you have petco in canada the imagin-whatever brand plants are almost always mis-labeled or generically labelled are in emersed form.

Well, that happens all the time - the plants come from the nurseries in emersed form and go right into water.

Depending on how long they are there after they get submerged, you might get them with no sign of submersed form if they’ve only been in stock a day or two or with a significant amount of new submersed form growth if they’ve been there awhile.

The only Petco we have is in our Canadian Tire stores, just a couple of aisles of dry goods for dogs & cats with the Petco name quite prominently displayed.

PetSmart we have but the size of the market here isn’t big enough to support a second chain like them.

Mislabeling is unfortunately very common - few stores seem to employ anyone who would know & they all go by whatever name was on the supplier’s order list.