40 Gallon Tank Weird but unheard of abnormal pooping hole

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ok guys, i need some answers, please, I've been searching and searching and nothing, once upon a time i had 3 males that all at one point formed a hole on their side of their bodys, closer to their gills but behind the fins, and then if you go a little further like 1-2 molly frys further (in length) thats where it was, now, out of that hole came poop, curly but still poop, what is this? this was not fatal and after they pooped quite a lot out of it the hole just healed and everything went back to normal, does anyone know how this happens and what it is called? i currently have a female molly who is adopted that has it but on a different location, the tummy, shes acting fine but i had a huge freak out thinking it was her intestines asking my dad if we should euthanize, upon further inspection it was poop, thick curly poop, she's still living, am i the first to have this happen? from what i know this doesn't affect the molly, it just helps them in a sort of a way, well kind of anyway, its like the same affect of a pea sort of but like i said, i found no info about it anywhere. just imagine having a fish develop a 2nd temporary pooping hole, that's basically whats happened, I'm hoping that it is the same thing that my 3 boys had as that means that its just for pooping and will go away after a few days, but please let me know if you ever had experience with this at all and if you know what it is.... and no, they are not overfed but she may have eaten more than usual as she was pregnant, she had fry, i saved 3, im sorry im sorry! i can't help myself, i feel so bad when they are literally asking to live (in my eyes they are with the adorable little faces, lol), but don't worry i have space, i like to save some fry so that once a fish does sadly pass i have a little one that i still have that i can transfer into that tank.
 

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ok guys, i need some answers, please, I've been searching and searching and nothing, once upon a time i had 3 males that all at one point formed a hole on their side of their bodys, closer to their gills but behind the fins, and then if you go a little further like 1-2 molly frys further (in length) thats where it was, now, out of that hole came poop, curly but still poop, what is this? this was not fatal and after they pooped quite a lot out of it the hole just healed and everything went back to normal, does anyone know how this happens and what it is called? i currently have a female molly who is adopted that has it but on a different location, the tummy, shes acting fine but i had a huge freak out thinking it was her intestines asking my dad if we should euthanize, upon further inspection it was poop, thick curly poop, she's still living, am i the first to have this happen? from what i know this doesn't affect the molly, it just helps them in a sort of a way, well kind of anyway, its like the same affect of a pea sort of but like i said, i found no info about it anywhere. just imagine having a fish develop a 2nd temporary pooping hole, that's basically whats happened, I'm hoping that it is the same thing that my 3 boys had as that means that its just for pooping and will go away after a few days, but please let me know if you ever had experience with this at all and if you know what it is.... and no, they are not overfed but she may have eaten more than usual as she was pregnant, she had fry, i saved 3, im sorry im sorry! i can't help myself, i feel so bad when they are literally asking to live (in my eyes they are with the adorable little faces, lol), but don't worry i have space, i like to save some fry so that once a fish does sadly pass i have a little one that i still have that i can transfer into that tank.
Can you take a picture and do a reverse image search?
 

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Can you take a picture and do a reverse image search?
i can try to take a picture, she is see through though, how do you do a reverse image search?
I'll see if i can find a photo of one of the males that had it, i think i took one ages ago...
 
i can try to take a picture, she is see through though, how do you do a reverse image search?
I'll see if i can find a photo of one of the males that had it, i think i took one ages ago...
If you can find a photo I can do the search and see what I can find for you!
 
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If you can find a photo I can do the search and see what I can find for you!
i can't find the photo sigh, if the hole was on her side it would be easier but its underneath her so it just looks like she is pooping normally but if i can get a good photo i will take one :)
I'll quickly feed them
ok, i think these photos are good IMG20230823122303.jpg
 

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ok guys, i need some answers, please, I've been searching and searching and nothing, once upon a time i had 3 males that all at one point formed a hole on their side of their bodys, closer to their gills but behind the fins, and then if you go a little further like 1-2 molly frys further (in length) thats where it was, now, out of that hole came poop, curly but still poop, what is this? this was not fatal and after they pooped quite a lot out of it the hole just healed and everything went back to normal, does anyone know how this happens and what it is called? i currently have a female molly who is adopted that has it but on a different location, the tummy, shes acting fine but i had a huge freak out thinking it was her intestines asking my dad if we should euthanize, upon further inspection it was poop, thick curly poop, she's still living, am i the first to have this happen? from what i know this doesn't affect the molly, it just helps them in a sort of a way, well kind of anyway, its like the same affect of a pea sort of but like i said, i found no info about it anywhere. just imagine having a fish develop a 2nd temporary pooping hole, that's basically whats happened, I'm hoping that it is the same thing that my 3 boys had as that means that its just for pooping and will go away after a few days, but please let me know if you ever had experience with this at all and if you know what it is.... and no, they are not overfed but she may have eaten more than usual as she was pregnant, she had fry, i saved 3, im sorry im sorry! i can't help myself, i feel so bad when they are literally asking to live (in my eyes they are with the adorable little faces, lol), but don't worry i have space, i like to save some fry so that once a fish does sadly pass i have a little one that i still have that i can transfer into that tank.
That’s really bizarre. Normally if any fish ends up with an opening that goes all the way into the coelomic cavity, the fish dies. What you describe sounds like a fistula but if there was a fistula, it would not go away once it formed and the fish would poop out of it forever afterward, theoretically.

Pictures of this would definitely be useful to see. I do not doubt you saw something weird happen but an opening to the intestinal tract that appears, releases poop and then vanishes in days should not be possible.
 

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That’s really bizarre. Normally if any fish ends up with an opening that goes all the way into the coelomic cavity, the fish dies. What you describe sounds like a fistula but if there was a fistula, it would not go away once it formed and the fish would poop out of it forever afterward, theoretically.

Pictures of this would definitely be useful to see. I do not doubt you saw something weird happen but an opening to the intestinal tract that appears, releases poop and then vanishes in days should not be possible.
oh wow, i guess i was lucky with my males then... i will have to keep an eye on her.... i have to go to school today but if i can get a good close up photo i will
 
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That’s really bizarre. Normally if any fish ends up with an opening that goes all the way into the coelomic cavity, the fish dies. What you describe sounds like a fistula but if there was a fistula, it would not go away once it formed and the fish would poop out of it forever afterward, theoretically.

Pictures of this would definitely be useful to see. I do not doubt you saw something weird happen but an opening to the intestinal tract that appears, releases poop and then vanishes in days should not be possible.
i will try to get pics of it without the fishes poop but yeah I'm not too sure for how long my boys had it for but definitely for less than 3 weeks maybe 2 weeks max, I'm not sure how long it will take for her to heal the hole that appeared but im hoping it will be the same case as the boys as i would be really sad if she didn't make it as she is sooo beautiful and very sweet, she's adopted :)
ok, she was moving a lot but i managed to get a pretty good photo, this is her without the poop coming out of that hole, im adding pimafix tonight to the 40g in hopes to help her start healing....
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she has a tiny little piece of poop there but yeah, thats the best i could do for now...
i have 2 photos above your reply with the poop coming out too if that helps....
 
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ok, so i came home and for the moment i don't see any poop i will be closely monitoring her to see if she manages to poop from her normal pooping hole again
she's still pooping out of the abnormal hole but the normal one has a bit of poop in it
 
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update: its been a while since i posted an update... she caught fungus and we treated her but while she seemed to recover she unfortunately did not make it....
 
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update: yesterday i found a fry that i somehow missed, she is half see through half black, she is most likely a month old and i believe that she is from her she is truely a miracle, i tried catching her but eventually stopped as she was clearly showing that she doesn't want to be caught, i also remembered the platy frys that also survived on their own its just i never had a molly fry survive own its own! she is adorable
 
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