Using Potassium Permanganate

[mattgirl]

mattgirl I am not sure I would chance keeping it in fridge ..It is poison for sure !
I leave mine in a 16 oz plastic coke bottle away from light ..The bottle is permanently stained to look full even when only half full..
Tough stuff not to be fooled with ..

Thanks for the warning. If anyone but hubby and I were here I wouldn't keep it where I do but the chances of it being mistaken for something to drink by him are astronomical. 'Specially the way I have it labeled.

 

[Ryz]

Ok got it, 16 oz filled up with water, pour the powder in, then shake it? can I shake it? And that should make a 1.5-2ppm per gal. of water. ^_^ Thanks.

 

[coralbandit]

Yes you can shake it .
Make sure cap is on tight ..
You must always practice safety with this stuff.

 

[Ryz]

Ended up getting a 16.9 oz bottle of water, make exactly 500ml, then added the oz of flowing powder PP. Havn't had any free time but maybe tomorrow I can do the treatment. Thanks for all the info Coralbandit, your awesome!!!^_^

 

[coralbandit]

Ended up getting a 16.9 oz bottle of water, make exactly 500ml, then added the oz of flowing powder PP. Havn't had any free time but maybe tomorrow I can do the treatment. Thanks for all the info Coralbandit, your awesome!!!^_^

Make sure you have H202 at your side and good luck .

 

[Ryz]

YEs got it in the fish room. I just dosed with my mixture of 1oz(PP/flowing powder) to 500ml(distilled water), in my 10 gal with two goldfish. I got a little cup put some tank water, added 10 drops. The purple disappeared leaving the tank water slightly discolored from before. Thinking that maybe the dose was too low I added 5 more drops. The water is still not purple, pretty much same color it was before I added anything. Do you think the dose is just too low?
My mixture should have made 1.5-2 ppm per drop to gallon right?
I'm thinking of adding 5 more drops.

 

[coralbandit]

You can dose one more time IMO.
Then do a water change and add the H202.
You can try again tomorrow after the water change ..
You are seeing the beauty of PP.It tells you if it works ..
Your tank is still too dirty to let the water get purple.
I have been treating two heavily stocked ram tanks and even with good water and a solid 2ppm dose my water goes brown /yellow in under 2 hours ! I just change water after ,H202 it and do it again next day if I can ..

 

[Ryz]

The ten gal is done, I added H2O2 then water change then a tiny bit more H2O2 to be sure.

I also dosed my 40 gal after the 10G. The 40 gals water showed very noticble browning, and I am about to change water now.

Also is it 100% water change after? I know it was said that a fish's slime coat is stripped during a PP treatment, so a cleanly tank is necessary after the treatment, but what if the water isn't very dirty? Doesnt the H2O2 neutralize the PP entirely? I don't necessarily see the need for an entire 100% WC, unless I'm underrating how vulnerable a fish is with no slimecoat.

 

[coralbandit]

I don't do 100% water changes . Just my usual 50-75% .

 

[Ryz]

Ok that sounds about right, a 100% would take away the benefit of the added minerals from the oxidation process anyways.
Got another question; I'm trying to figure out how to clean the tank while using the PP. Can't decide if it would be better to scrape sides of tank and bottom(for algae) then dose, or visa-versa. OR if I continue treatments will it just go away without any manual removal?

 

[coralbandit]

I clean glass when I change water regardless of PP.
I like to get as much of what is on glass when water is gone..
I use micron pads people cut to fit for filters for cleaners and through them in bleach and water when done ..

 

[mattgirl]

Bumping this very useful information back up to the top.