Please help, my fish are sick

[RosieLove]

Hello Everybody Im totally new to this.

I have been struggling w my babies for 3 weeks now and I don't know what to do.

So it all started around when my Golden zebra loach started nipping on my male bettas tail. I noticed my betta running away from him and he was chasing my other female betta as well. So I had to surrender him to petco
That same day I purchased a new plant at petco it was packed in a plastic container. can't find the name right now it looks like grass. I just rinsed it and than placed it in the tank. I made a water test and my nitrite was a lil high orange looking close to red. Made about 30% water change. Nitrate was still light orange. As the days passed I noticed my female betta not being herself she was staying at the bottom of the tank and the male betta too he was down he is older and I feel like he is an old man now.

Put some betta fix his tail was regrowing, but still looked down and my female betta started to look fat. I was getting worried she had dropsy but she didn't look like a pine cone hard to tell w. her color.

Ok don't want to bore you I have a couple of issues and
I don't know what it can be I feel like something is wrong with all my fish.
* My female betta ended up having dropsy she looks like a pine cone
*Male betta is down now he just stays under a shell
* I have a pepper Cory
•Rummy nose tetra
•Gold white cloud fish
all of them except for Rummy have like black spots on them (fins & tails) that I haven't seen before
* The gold white cloud fish also has red lips & his gills look red
They act normal

I treated the whole tank with maracin 2 used all the packets and some sea salt.

My female betta hasn't gotten any better the other fish still look the same.
I started a 2nd treatment but I don't see any changes. But I fee like I need to use another medicine
I feel so bad for them special my female betta its been 3 weeks since she's been off

Oh and I have this really small see thru snails that popped up when I got a plant & they've never left even after I got rid of a lot of them.
and some of them look red which they were never like that.

I don't know what to do.

The Ph is good
Ammonia good
Nitrite good
Nitrate light orange
Tank size:10 gallon
Fish:5
Light
Temp around 75-80

Their all in the same tank


Thank youu

 

[Ghostly]

it is a bit hard to read it right now could you please fill out the emergency template?

 

[Lucy]

Hi welcome to FishLore!!

I'm so sorry you are having issues.
There looks to be several things you have going on.

Too many fish in too small a tank.
Incompatible fish (temperature and temperament wise)

Can you give the exact readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?
How long has the tank been running?
How many white clouds and rummy nose do you have?

I'd start with getting each betta a tank of their own. Not only do they need a higher temp than the white clouds, the do better on their own. A stressed betta will hide and sometimes become ill.

Depending on the numbers of the other fish, they might be able to stay in the 10g but that's kind of pushing it for schoolers.

Good luck, I'm sure others will be able to help.

 

[GatlingGun]

I am not sure what “the problem” is, because it looks like there are several problems. I agree with Lucy in moving the bettas to their own tank, and focusing on each fish individually to help you gage these problems differently. Are you over/under feeding? We’re your fish earlier acting healthy or have they always been this way? Can you add photos of your test strips. There is most likely an underlying water quality issue that you are unaware of. Your light may be on for too long as well. Other than that I’m not sure what to say because others will probably have better answers but good luck!

 

[RosieLove]

Thank you for replying I'll have to take a new water test. but the last one it was good the nitrate was a light orange. I took my water to the fish shop near my house he said it was good.
I think I may have been over feeding them but I cut down.
They were always healthy. Right now the white cloud and pepper cory are acting normal even though they have some black spots on them and the white cloud has red lips and red gills but he is still his crazy self swimming around chasing Rummy. I haven't noticed anything on the Rummy. and my female betta has dropsy.


Thank you for replying. I will share the water tests later I'm at work right now.

My tank has been running since last October.
I have 1 Rummy 1 White Cloud 1 male betta they have been in the tank since the beginning
Later on I added the Cory some time around the beginning of this yr and the female betta was more recently in March she was really tiny. They all get along the male betta would flare at the female betta here and there but aside from that they are fine.

 

[GatlingGun]

Thank you for replying I'll have to take a new water test. but the last one it was good the nitrate was a light orange. I took my water to the fish shop near my house he said it was good.
I think I may have been over feeding them but I cut down.
They were always healthy. Right now the white cloud and pepper cory are acting normal even though they have some black spots on them and the white cloud has red lips and red gills but he is still his crazy self swimming around chasing Rummy. I haven't noticed anything on the Rummy. and my female betta has dropsy.


Thank you for replying. I will share the water tests later I'm at work right now.

My tank has been running since last October.
I have 1 Rummy 1 White Cloud 1 male betta they have been in the tank since the beginning
Later on I added the Cory some time around the beginning of this yr and the female betta was more recently in March she was really tiny. They all get along the male betta would flare at the female betta here and there but aside from that they are fine.

Just watched an FFT video; Just make sure the bettas aren’t together, ever. Even if the tank is huge, the male with kill the female eventually. Also your white cloud is chasing the Rummy nose because it is just him and no other white clouds. I would get at least a group of 5 if you have the space, but make sure the Rummys have at least 5 too, but that’s about it for a 10 gallon.

 

[awilkinson871]

You really need to get your own water test kit so you can test regularly. The amount of ammonia and nitrite can contribute to long term health issues. The post also mentions temp as 75-80, can you be more specific as that is a large swing for some of these sensitive fish and could be contributing to health issues. You also have some stocking issues. White clouds, rummynose, and cories all need schools to be happy and healthy. Unfortunately a 10 gallon tank is not large enough to support these schools. In a 10 gallon you could get a divider and keep the male and female betta, but the water parameters need to be checked and corrected if needed. You mention black dots but I do not see pictures with them to know if it is from stress or another issue. Dropsy is a symptom of an illness or disease in your betta. It can be from constipation, internal issues, water issues, parasites, disease, etc. Completing the emergency template would be very helpful in trying to determine the main issue.

 

[RosieLove]

Do you guys think it'll be safe to medicate the tank with KANAPLEX after using maracyn 2?
Yesterday was the last time it was medicated with maracyn 2.

 

[StarGirl]

Welcome to Fishlore!

I would start with a bigger water change. at least 50%. Are you using dechlorinator and matching the water temperature to the tank before refilling? I really dont know what meds are used for dropsy....sorry.

How much and how often were your water changes before this all happened? I believe almost every person who has come here with sick fish has said the pet store person said my water was "fine" and it was not fine hence the sick fish. Your own test kit will help immensely.

 

[RosieLove]

Welcome to Fishlore!

Thank you. Yeah it's hard to find somebody that has a lot of knowledge about fish in a pet shop even in the ones that are only fish. Thats why I decide to join this forum. To find some answers for my babies.

I do have my own test kit. I think I was doing water changes every 3 weeks. About 60% and over feed them. Before this happened I already started feeding them less. Cause I kept having high levels of nitrate and even one time I had a spike of nitrite and nitrate, one of the fish died.
Oh and I also have a nitrate pad in my filter for like 2 months.

I use API stress coat and stress Zyme. I try to match the temperature but its usually colder than it originally was.

Last night I did I guess 15% water change and I tested it today.
Everybody kept asking for a pic of the water test here it is:
• 1st pic is the high PH
• 2nd Ammonia
• 3rd Nitrite

Second pic is the Nitrate

I was wondering maybe the plant that I got could've had something on it and made my fish sick. There are tiny see through snails in my tank and they also look weird they look red never seen them like that. I got it at petco it was by itself in a container like the bettas. I just rinsed it an placed it in the tank. after that things changed. You can see the plant in the first pic I shared.