Persistent Cloud/murky Water

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I was hesitant in making a thread about this but I can't seem to find an accurate reason for what is happening.

I do weekly water changes and my water is always crystal clear

I started noticing my filter cartridge was getting a bit on the old side and needed replacing, given I had a rapid brown algae problem.

I changed the filter, then two days later did a decent water change.

It has now been 5 days since the water change and my water is super murky/cloudy.

I know I may have triggered a minI cycle due to the large water change, the new cartridges and I did shift my substrate around a lot to kind of dust of the brown algae BUT according to all the forums i've read, this should have really been on its way to clear up by now.

Thoughts?

Water Parameters are

pH 7.5
Ammonia 0
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 10
 

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You probably did cause a minI cycle changing your cartridge. It sounds like a bacteria bloom and should clear up in a few days. In the future your better off swishing your cartriges in a bucket of tank water and after they start to fall apart keep the frame of the cartridge and wrap it with some poly fill batten and also if you have room drop a mesh bag of ceramic media into the bottom or behind the cartridge to be sure you always have a place for your BB to live to avoid this happening in the future. Good luck!
 

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You probably did cause a minI cycle changing your cartridge. It sounds like a bacteria bloom and should clear up in a few days. In the future your better off swishing your cartriges in a bucket of tank water and after they start to fall apart keep the frame of the cartridge and wrap it with some poly fill batten and also if you have room drop a mesh bag of ceramic media into the bottom or behind the cartridge to be sure you always have a place for your BB to live to avoid this happening in the future. Good luck!

I only changed the cartridges because I noticed my water not filtering through properly.

I don't know what to do now.. its been a week and still no sign of the bloom clearing up.

Thanks for the advice! I will look into dropping a mesh bag into the bottom w ceramics.
 
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HI guys, I hope this gets brought back into current threads.. my cloudy/milky water is not going away.. its been two weeks. No ammonia or nitrites present.
 
You can buy a clairifier to lock the particulates in and you filter can can remove, I had to use one on my puffer tank.
 
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You can buy a clairifier to lock the particulates in and you filter can can remove, I had to use one on my puffer tank.

Do you know what could be causing it to begin with?
 

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Do you know what could be causing it to begin with?

I agree with what was already said. You completely lost your cycle be changing your filter media. And re-cycling a tank can take weeks. Granted...the bacterial bloom shouldn't usually last 2 weeks. You did do a lot to the tank though. By changing media and doing a heavy cleaning of the substrate all at once you surely lost a lot of BB. The majority of the BB rests in the filter itself and some of it is on the other surfaces of the tank like the substrate. The big water change had nothing to do with it as very little of the BB is in the water column itself.

What are you using to test your water? Have you tested it multiple times during these 2 weeks?

How many water changes (if any) have you done during these 2 weeks? What kind of filter are you using and what size is the tank? What kind of stock?
 
I agree with bizaliz. You may have lost your cycle completely (or at least mostly) and it's causing you trouble.

However, for the cloudy water, I keep purigen in my filter and it cleared up the water when I first had issues within a day. I think it's more important to keep an eye on water parameters at this point than to worry about clearing up the cloudy water. What kind of fish do you have in the tank?
 
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I agree with what was already said. You completely lost your cycle be changing your filter media. And re-cycling a tank can take weeks. Granted...the bacterial bloom shouldn't usually last 2 weeks. You did do a lot to the tank though. By changing media and doing a heavy cleaning of the substrate all at once you surely lost a lot of BB. The majority of the BB rests in the filter itself and some of it is on the other surfaces of the tank like the substrate. The big water change had nothing to do with it as very little of the BB is in the water column itself.

What are you using to test your water? Have you tested it multiple times during these 2 weeks?

How many water changes (if any) have you done during these 2 weeks? What kind of filter are you using and what size is the tank? What kind of stock?

I changed my cartridges, but I retained the sponges and I have done this before with no dramas. The big clean was necessary, I had a massive outbreak a month back with internal parasites that were just not going away.

I am now starting to wonder whether it is my plants or driftwood causing this.

I agree with bizaliz. You may have lost your cycle completely (or at least mostly) and it's causing you trouble.

However, for the cloudy water, I keep purigen in my filter and it cleared up the water when I first had issues within a day. I think it's more important to keep an eye on water parameters at this point than to worry about clearing up the cloudy water. What kind of fish do you have in the tank?

So strange, I thought the same by my water parameters are:

pH 7.5
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5

I have only changed the water one at about 40% since. I have tetras and guppies.

It's a 10 gallon tank with two guppies and 6 tetras.
 
I changed my cartridges, but I retained the sponges and I have done this before with no dramas. The big clean was necessary, I had a massive outbreak a month back with internal parasites that were just not going away.

I am now starting to wonder whether it is my plants or driftwood causing this.

So strange, I thought the same by my water parameters are:

pH 7.5
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5

I have only changed the water one at about 40% since. I have tetras and guppies.

It's a 10 gallon tank with two guppies and 6 tetras.

Hmm...definitely strange then. Can you take a pic of the tank? And how long has it been running?
 
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Hmm...definitely strange then. Can you take a pic of the tank? And how long has it been running?

Sure! Here’s the tank! Lights off it’s got s slight green tinge like tea BUT when lights on it’s definitely a milky shade.

The pictures don’t do it justice. It’s worse in person. I can’t see fish that hand on the back wall. 9302E702-B2B1-4C6E-862C-140268C022A9.jpegB4B3F554-D8C5-4819-95E6-C5B800D04055.jpeg1D245209-B9C2-460A-B1E2-6DFDC2AE0984.jpeg5AB7F3C1-2CD0-4B0B-9AF5-3E092867F7CD.jpeg
 

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Keep testing your parameters and if your not seeing any ammonia or nitrites leave it alone its just the BB getting back in order from removing the cartridge. It will clear up in a bit. If there are any trace amounts of Ammonia or Nitrites the do a small WC 10-20% treat with Prime for the entire volumn of the tank and retest the next day. And let us know the updated readings.
 
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Keep testing your parameters and if your not seeing any ammonia or nitrites leave it alone its just the BB getting back in order from removing the cartridge. It will clear up in a bit. If there are any trace amounts of Ammonia or Nitrites the do a small WC 10-20% treat with Prime for the entire volumn of the tank and retest the next day. And let us know the updated readings.

Thanks! I'll keep you guys updated.

I mean the pics, you can't even see that there are 6 other fish in there LOL.

So far no traces of ammonia or nitrites.

Fish are acting quite aggressive though - not sure if this means anything.
 
Cloudy Water:

The water in your tank might be cloudy due to dirt, sand, fish waste, particles, plant matter, and uneaten food floating around. Moreover, the particles might be way too small for your filter to catch. The stuff making your aquarium water cloudy can’t even be detected or stopped by the filter.

Try the information here first (Make sure you have fine filter floss in your filter):



Build a DIY Water Polisher here. I built this and it works great in large tanks:


Here is the .

For smaller tanks, try this:

Diy Micro Gravel Vacuum/water Polisher


If all the above does not work… this will:



Start with 1 drop per gallon first, not the 2-4 drops recommended to start. Your water will get cloudy for about an hour or so and then start to clear. Make sure you have in your filter. If you need another/higher dose 24-48 hours later, fine. All Acruel F does is clump the free floating particles together so your filter can now pick this up. Guaranteed this works wonders.

Keep your tank crystal clear?

Green water? Get a (13 watt) and set it to the lowest flow rate so the water stays in contact with the light the longest. Will clear in about 7 days then remove it.
 
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Keep testing your parameters and if your not seeing any ammonia or nitrites leave it alone its just the BB getting back in order from removing the cartridge. It will clear up in a bit. If there are any trace amounts of Ammonia or Nitrites the do a small WC 10-20% treat with Prime for the entire volumn of the tank and retest the next day. And let us know the updated readings.

It's been quite some time and I'm still running into the same issue.. it cleared up EVER so slowly after three weeks or so... I did a water change because problem seemed to have resolved.. and I also used SEACHEM CLARITY but it didn't appear to work.

Anyway, post water change (I didn't mess with anything else just a simple water change) the water got cloudy again and five days later it is still cloudy..

Could it possible be a dying plant?
 
It's been quite some time and I'm still running into the same issue.. it cleared up EVER so slowly after three weeks or so... I did a water change because problem seemed to have resolved.. and I also used SEACHEM CLARITY but it didn't appear to work.

Anyway, post water change (I didn't mess with anything else just a simple water change) the water got cloudy again and five days later it is still cloudy..

Could it possible be a dying plant?
It could be that but you would think your parameters would be off. Do you have a glass container you can put some of the water your using into and see if it’s cloudy right out of the tap.
 
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It could be that but you would think your parameters would be off. Do you have a glass container you can put some of the water your using into and see if it’s cloudy right out of the tap.

I use a glass jug to pour it back into my tank from the bucket, water seems pretty clear - I actually use ice cold water to ensure its pure and clear and let it sit with conditioner until it hits room temp. I have never had a cloudy water issue before.

Either way, wouldn't the clarity have fixed that issue? The fact that the clarity isn't working is concerning me a little bit too.
 
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HI guys,

I am starting to get really frustrated by this.

The issue has now subsided, I have literally tried everything now.

-.- I don't know what else to do, but its really discouraged my whole 'fish keeping' hobby.
 
Did you have cloudy water when you first started the tank? I'm wondering if your clogged up filter was actually trapping much finer particals than the new cartridge is able to...

I never had crystal clear water until I started to put polyester batting in my filter. I now use this stuff https://www.spotlightstores.com/sew...MI3vjEtOyG4wIVkIWPCh1NBQn3EAYYAiABEgK4ufD_BwE it is important to make sure it is chemical free. I use two layers of it in the top of my box filter. in between the coarse sponge and my bio-rings. It made a big difference to my waters clarity.

I also have purigen, which also makes a difference, but I think using some batting or filter floss depending on what will work in your filter will make a difference.

Tony.
 
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Did you have cloudy water when you first started the tank? I'm wondering if your clogged up filter was actually trapping much finer particals than the new cartridge is able to...

I never had crystal clear water until I started to put polyester batting in my filter. I now use this stuff https://www.spotlightstores.com/sew...MI3vjEtOyG4wIVkIWPCh1NBQn3EAYYAiABEgK4ufD_BwE it is important to make sure it is chemical free. I use two layers of it in the top of my box filter. in between the coarse sponge and my bio-rings. It made a big difference to my waters clarity.

I also have purigen, which also makes a difference, but I think using some batting or filter floss depending on what will work in your filter will make a difference.

Tony.

Hi, thank you for your message! When this tank was first started (at the beginning of this year) my water was clear as ever!

That may have been the case with the new cartridge, however - its been quite some time now (maybe even equal amount of time that I had my old one) so the 'new' cartridge would technically be just as full.
 
OK was it the same brand of cartridge for the replacement? Sounds like it is something other than the cartridge but just checking

Tony.
 

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OK was it the same brand of cartridge for the replacement? Sounds like it is something other than the cartridge but just checking

Tony.
Yeah same brand, it’s so strange I know.

The water flow is the same so I can even say there’s some sort of blockage in the actual filter overhead or anything like that.

It’s also not debris, I’ve thoroughly vacuumed my gravel during water changes.

It’s not a bacterial bloom because that would’ve settled by now given it’s been almost 6-8 weeks.

Ive also taken out my live plants to see if it was a dying plant that may have caused it. I have also taken out the drift wood to see if it was that.

I am not sure and am thinking it may be time for a reboot and possibly just buy a new filter system altogether. At the same time I don’t want to spend more money to try and fix a problem that I might not even fix in the end LOL
 
I recently set up a 10 gal tank that I let cycle for a week before adding 4 Cory catfish too as well as 2 ghost shrimp.
The water looked a little cloudy from the start so I immediately swapped the water out and then let it cycle. It seemed to be ok for a few days then got pretty cloudy. I’m assuming I did not cycle correctly and it’s bacterial bloom but any advice would be helpful.
I have tested the water for ammonia and there is a small amount so I have treated with ammonia reducer. I also have test strips and everything is reading low to middle readings. I have done a 20% and then a 50% water change but the water seems to get violently cloudy and now has green algae growing pretty quickly. I have tried most options with water treatments and water changes and at this point I feel like if i do more it will be too much. Any advice?

edit: i appreciate all the responses that I’ve done it wrong. That has been painfully obvious. I’ve had my tank for about a month now so I am trying to figure out solutions on how to fix it not bombarded with how wrong I was. Again I know there’s something wrong or else I wouldn’t be asking. Gotta love the gatekeepers and all their wisdom.

edit: thank you for the one genuine response. Didn’t realize this site was so big into shaming. -Love how some of you have changed your response after me saying that LOL
 
I didnt even read after you saying you "only cycled your tank for a week".... thats your WHOLE issue there. It takes a whole month to fully establish the needed beneficial bacteria. Not just a week.
 
I didnt even read after you saying you "only cycled your tank for a week".... thats your WHOLE issue there. It takes a whole month to fully establish the needed beneficial bacteria. Not just a week.

I agree completely. A week is not long enough to cycle a new tank; it usually takes a month or so. If you are having ammonia and nitrites, the beneficial bacteria have not developed to the point where they can process the ammonia/nitrites correctly. Your cloudy water may be from floating bacteria, which is a good thing.
 
Your tank is not cycled after just 1 week. That is your issue from not allowing enough BB to build up to eat away the toxic waste. Therefore, the levels are building up and you are having a bacterial blood. You need to get Prime Water conditioner right now. Its the only water conditioner to neutralize the toxic levels of ammonia/nitrite/nitrates while you cycle your tank. You will have to finish your cycle now by "Fish in cycling" . I am very against "Fish in cycles" so I cannot help there. You will need to be doing daily WCs and testing your levels daily. You need the API Freshwater testkit in order to property monitor your parameters, the test strips will not work.
 
I agree completely. A week is not long enough to cycle a new tank; it usually takes a month or so. If you are having ammonia and nitrites, the beneficial bacteria have not developed to the point where they can process the ammonia/nitrites correctly. Your cloudy water may be from floating bacteria, which is a good thing.

ok well i have seen a lot of things say a week. This is the first I have heard a month for a 10 g tank.

Your tank is not cycled after just 1 week. That is your issue from not allowing enough BB to build up to eat away the toxic waste. Therefore, the levels are building up and you are having a bacterial blood. You need to get Prime Water conditioner right now. Its the only water conditioner to neutralize the toxic levels of ammonia/nitrite/nitrates while you cycle your tank. You will have to finish your cycle now by "Fish in cycling" . I am very against "Fish in cycles" so I cannot help there. You will need to be doing daily WCs and testing your levels daily.

I have been doing daily testing and have been using Aqueon Ammonia reducer which also reduces nitrates. Thank you for your response but I know why it is cloudy I am asking for suggestions on how to fix it but thanks anyways
 
ok well i have seen a lot of things say a week. This is the first I have heard a month for a 10 g tank.

Its a month for any size tank.. beneficial bacteria can not develop in under a week. I would add some TSS and start your fish in cycle. You need to order Prime and the API Freshwater testkit if you want to properly house fish.
 
I recently set up a 10 gal tank that I let cycle for a week before adding 4 Cory catfish too as well as 2 ghost shrimp.
The water looked a little cloudy from the start so I immediately swapped the water out and then let it cycle. It seemed to be ok for a few days then got pretty cloudy. I’m assuming I did not cycle correctly and it’s bacterial bloom but any advice would be helpful.
I have tested the water for ammonia and there is a small amount so I have treated with ammonia reducer. I also have test strips and everything is reading low to middle readings. I have done a 20% and then a 50% water change but the water seems to get violently cloudy and now has green algae growing pretty quickly. I have tried most options with water treatments and water changes and at this point I feel like if i do more it will be too much. Any advice?
Running the water is not cycling the tank. Look at these: Aquarium nitrogen cycle and fish in cycle.
The bottle bacteria they sell you DOES NOT instant cycle the water. It only helps it along.
 
I have been doing daily testing and have been using Aqueon Ammonia reducer which also reduces nitrates. Thank you for your response but I know why it is cloudy I am asking for suggestions on how to fix it but thanks anyways


You shouldn't be using ammomia removers . You shouldn't have to use any products if your tank was actually cycles. Your bloom is because you didn't properly cycle right. The bacteria bloom is not the only issue, if anything you not performing the Nitrogen Cycle is the biggest issue here. You need to cycle your tank before anything or your fish will all die from poisoning
 
Your tank is not cycled after just 1 week. That is your issue from not allowing enough BB to build up to eat away the toxic waste. Therefore, the levels are building up and you are having a bacterial blood. You need to get Prime Water conditioner right now. Its the only water conditioner to neutralize the toxic levels of ammonia/nitrite/nitrates while you cycle your tank. You will have to finish your cycle now by "Fish in cycling" . I am very against "Fish in cycles" so I cannot help there. You will need to be doing daily WCs and testing your levels daily.

I have been doing daily testing and have been using Aqueon Ammonia reducer which also reduces nitrates. Thank you for your response but I know why it is cloudy I am asking for suggestions on how to fix it but thanks anywa
Running the water is not cycling the tank. Look at these: Aquarium nitrogen cycle and fish in cycle.
The bottle bacteria they sell you DOES NOT instant cycle the water. It only helps it along.
I used filters from previous tanks as well as substrate I didn’t just throw water treatment In there. I will check this out but I know about the cycle I misjudged it like I said in the post and am looking on how to solve it. Thanks.

Its a month for any size tank.. beneficial bacteria can not develop in under a week. I would add some TSS and start your fish in cycle. You need to order Prime and the API Freshwater testkit if you want to properly house fish.

i have the test kits and I have the supplies. Thanks

You shouldn't be using ammomia removers . You shouldn't have to use any products if your tank was actually cycles. Your bloom is because you didn't properly cycle right. The bacteria bloom is not the only issue, if anything you not performing the Nitrogen Cycle is the biggest issue here. You need to cycle your tank before anything or your fish will all die from poisoning
Please refer to my edit. Thanks
 

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I have been doing daily testing and have been using Aqueon Ammonia reducer which also reduces nitrates. Thank you for your response but I know why it is cloudy I am asking for suggestions on how to fix it but thanks anywa

I used filters from previous tanks as well as substrate I didn’t just throw water treatment In there. I will check this out but I know about the cycle I misjudged it like I said in the post and am looking on how to solve it. Thanks.

If the media was already seeded then you shouldnt be having any ammonia levels.
Since you have the API testkit, test the water from your other tank and the new 10gal and post the parameters
 
Like everyone has said buddy, you did not perform the Nitrogen cycle. The bloom is not your issue and we are all trying to help your fish from dying
No one is helping. Y’all are just reposting how wrong I was. My fish have been in the tank for over a month and I’m testing it daily. If you have any actual suggestions feel free to let me know.
 
If the media was already seeded then you shouldnt be having any ammonia levels.
Since you have the API testkit, test the water from your other tank and the new 10gal and post the parameters
New tank: Ph - 8, Alkalinity - 40, Hardness - 25, Nitrite- 0, Nitrate -20, Ammonia- .25

Let me get my old tank reading
 
You're the one not listening.. you wouldn't have any of these issues if you just cycled your tank properly to begin with. You shouldnt be having any ammonia after a month. You shouldnt have to be using ammomia removers that alters the water chemistry even more. You would not have any of these issue if you performed the Nitrogen Cycle completely but ok dude, be petty and vote my answers down when we are trying to help you.
I understand that! It is after the fact I realize i cycled it wrong??? I’m trying to fix it moving forward dude.
 
New tank: Ph - 8, Alkalinity - 40, Hardness - 25, Nitrite- 0, Nitrate -20, Ammonia- .25

Let me get my old tank reading
New running tanks will generally get a cloudy bacterial bloom. It goes away... just looks bad for awhile. How "established" was the media you used? Sometimes it just needs to catch up.
 
New running tanks will generally get a cloudy bacterial bloom. It goes away... just looks bad for awhile. How "established" was the media you used? Sometimes it just needs to catch up.
Thank you for your genuine help. I’m trying to do right by fixing my mess up. The tank I used the media from had been running for about a month and looks really good but as I have recently been told many times the tank I used the media from may have not been properly cycled as well.
 
New running tanks will generally get a cloudy bacterial bloom. It goes away... just looks bad for awhile. How "established" was the media you used? Sometimes it just needs to catch up.
From working on the tank for a little now and the research I am doing I think you’re 100% right. Do you know any ways to help this? I have seen a lot of different stuff trying to figure out what to do and i don’t know if i need to leave it alone or what at this point.
 
Thank you for your genuine help. I’m trying to do right by fixing my mess up. The tank I used the media from had been running for about a month and looks really good but as I have recently been told many times the tank I used the media from may have not been properly cycled as well.
I have been trying to help all along. I would get a bottle of Seachem Prime dechlorinator. It protects the fish from ammonia and nitrite if under 1ppm. Be prepared to do water changes if they get over 1. Your fish should be fine doing this. Be ready for water changes and do at least 50%.
 
I have been trying to help all along. I would get a bottle of Seachem Prime dechlorinator. It protects the fish from ammonia and nitrite if under 1ppm. Be prepared to do water changes if they get over 1. Your fish should be fine doing this. Be ready for water changes and do at least 50%.
Ok thank you. Is seachem prime that much better than aqueon or imagitarium? I’m just wondering because I’m on a budget and have spent a lot on products already that I have but if I need to get other stuff I will. I want to have the right products.
 
I have done a fish in cycle. It is not hard, providing you have hardy fish. Check your water parameters daily and change 50 percent water as required by your readings. At first My water changes were every day or two. But as the cycle started I did not have to do it that often. I lost one fish a few months later.I cycled with zebra danios which are hardy, active and fun to watch. Good luck. We have all made mistakes, that is how it goes. If you have ammonia and or nitrite and no nitrate, you need a water change.
 

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Ok thank you. Is seachem prime that much better than aqueon or imagitarium? I’m just wondering because I’m on a budget and have spent a lot on products already that I have but if I need to get other stuff I will. I want to have the right products.
Yes it is different is makes the ammonia and nitrites less toxic to the fish for 24 hours plus. The others do not. It seems expensive but it is very concentrated and lasts a long time. It is especially beneficial for cycling a new tank. Like I said if they get high you have to change some water to bring it down. It will seem excessive but the fish will thank you...and its only like a month then you can go to weekly changes after it is cycled. Which is when you see no ammonia no nitrites and nitrate readings only.
 
Its a month for any size tank.. beneficial bacteria can not develop in under a week. I would add some TSS and start your fish in cycle. You need to order Prime and the API Freshwater testkit if you want to properly house fish.
Lol did you really edit the part of you saying but you don’t recommend fish in cycles so you weren’t gonna help me. What an absolute joke.
 
I have done a fish in cycle. It is not hard, providing you have hardy fish. Check your water parameters daily and change 50 percent water as required by your readings. At first My water changes were every day or two. But as the cycle started I did not have to do it that often. I lost one fish a few months later.I cycled with zebra danios which are hardy, active and fun to watch. Good luck. We have all made mistakes, that is how it goes. If you have ammonia and or nitrite and no nitrate, you need a water change.
Thank you for being understanding. I will do a water change and keep checking my levels. I will let you know how it goes.
 
Continuing with personal attacks will get you banned.

If you are not going to help dont post.
 
Yes it is different is makes the ammonia and nitrites less toxic to the fish for 24 hours plus. The others do not. It seems expensive but it is very concentrated and lasts a long time. It is especially beneficial for cycling a new tank. Like I said if they get high you have to change some water to bring it down. It will seem excessive but the fish will thank you...and its only like a month then you can go to weekly changes after it is cycled. Which is when you see no ammonia no nitrites and nitrate readings only.
Ok thank you again so much. I will get this and try it out. I will continue to keep an eye on the levels.
 
I recently set up a 10 gal tank that I let cycle for a week before adding 4 Cory catfish too as well as 2 ghost shrimp.
The water looked a little cloudy from the start so I immediately swapped the water out and then let it cycle. It seemed to be ok for a few days then got pretty cloudy. I’m assuming I did not cycle correctly and it’s bacterial bloom but any advice would be helpful.
I have tested the water for ammonia and there is a small amount so I have treated with ammonia reducer. I also have test strips and everything is reading low to middle readings. I have done a 20% and then a 50% water change but the water seems to get violently cloudy and now has green algae growing pretty quickly. I have tried most options with water treatments and water changes and at this point I feel like if i do more it will be too much. Any advice?

edit: i appreciate all the responses that I’ve done it wrong. That has been painfully obvious. I’ve had my tank for about a month now so I am trying to figure out solutions on how to fix it not bombarded with how wrong I was. Again I know there’s something wrong or else I wouldn’t be asking. Gotta love the gatekeepers and all their wisdom.

edit: thank you for the one genuine response. Didn’t realize this site was so big into shaming. -Love how some of you have changed your response after me saying that LOL
Dont take it personally. I feel i should apologize for some of the members here. I hope you find this a better place once you block the select few.
 
Oh gosh, just wait until you ask a stocking question! Don’t you *dare* have 4 corys instead of 15! Haha you will get all sorts here, Sometimes I feel like it’s a forum for kids ages 3+. In time you’ll learn who to trust, who is rude, who is typically just wrong, etc. this forum has a wealth of knowledgable people and it has helped me immensely, even with the few toxic replies. Please stay and enjoy! I didn’t read the comments but I’m sure you know from one of them what to do about a fish-in cycle. Good luck!
 
I read a different thread yesterday about some of the inappropriate responses to certain threads or subjects on Fishlore.

If I’m being honest, I didn’t really understand or couldn’t relate to what I was reading in that thread. Then I read a few of the responses to this thread. Unfortunately, the thread I read yesterday now makes sense.

With everything that’s going on in the world right now, is it really worth getting all fired up or bent out of shape about whether someone’s doing a fish-in or fishless cycle? Or if someone didn’t like your answer, disagreed with your answer or voted down your answer? Or anything else about this or any other HOBBY for that matter?

Put things in perspective and don’t sweat the small stuff.

To the OP: I think you know this, but this post isn’t directed toward you.
 

Random Great Topic!

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