Mixing Biomedia Types (does it matter)

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I'm finally setting up the work aquarium I have been planning for way too long. 75 gallon with a FX4 canister filter. Planning to start cycling next week.

I have been looking at biological media option and everyone has a favorite that is the best product every created. It all starts getting confusing to me after awhile. Has anyone or does anyone use different media in their system? Let's say, one tray with Seachem Matrix and one with lava rocks, or one with Biohome and one with ceramic rings?

Are there any pros or cons to this?
 

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No harm in mixing biomedia in my opinion - all of my canisters have a mix of various types. It all does pretty much the same thing.
 

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I have lava rock, ceramic rings, bioballs, coarse sponge and filter floss. The filter floss creates a mat that I put over the ceramic rings and bioball levels, acts as a “polishing pad”.

Overall it doesn’t really matter what you use so long as something is in there to create surface area for the bacteria. I do suggest adding filter floss (polyfil) as it helps catch all the fine particles.
 
I'm finally setting up the work aquarium I have been planning for way too long. 75 gallon with a FX4 canister filter. Planning to start cycling next week.

I have been looking at biological media option and everyone has a favorite that is the best product every created. It all starts getting confusing to me after awhile. Has anyone or does anyone use different media in their system? Let's say, one tray with Seachem Matrix and one with lava rocks, or one with Biohome and one with ceramic rings?

Are there any pros or cons to this?
Yeah, I mixed biomedia in the past. Nowadays I only ever use MarinePure though.

There is no real pro to mixing biomedia, but no con either. Though of course, preferably just use the best biomedia rather than a mix.
 
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I do suggest adding filter floss (polyfil) as it helps catch all the fine particles.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have a bag arriving tomorrow along with some egg crate sponge sheets.

Though of course, preferably just use the best biomedia rather than a mix.
That seems to be the hard part to determine. Every opinion I read is different on "best", Matrix, Biohome & MarinePure I see mentioned quite often, but with all tanks and setups being unique I was looking at a 2 out of 3 ain't bad :) approach.
 
Every opinion I read is different.
For better or worse, that’s true with most every subject in this hobby.

IMO, you can’t go wrong with most or all of them. Or by using one or a combination of them. My personal preference is Seachem Matrix.
 

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No problem at all with mixing the media. You can use what you like but if you're feeling overwhelmed by all the different makes on the market, ceramic noodles, black sponge, and filter floss are what I consider essentials. Matrix and bio balls or lava rock are very beneficial but bacteria will grow just fine on the other stuff. Bacteria will grow on anything that allows it to. The more the merrier and sometimes we have different strains of nirtrifying bacteria in different tanks so in my opinion, the more you have and the more types you have, ensure there will always be enough for it to grow on.
 
That seems to be the hard part to determine. Every opinion I read is different on "best", Matrix, Biohome & MarinePure I see mentioned quite often, but with all tanks and setups being unique I was looking at a 2 out of 3 ain't bad :) approach.
CerMedia did a study on their own product: https://www.cermedia.com/MarinePure Project Report.pdf.

Of course, they may be lying. However, I have also verified this from experience. Given the same volume of biomedia, MarinePure outperformed everything else when it comes to the rate of nitrification possible. Of course, if you have plenty of space to fill up with biomedia, it may not matter. Nonetheless, MarinePure the best when it comes to how much nitrification it can offer per unit of volume.

Why does this matter? Because sometimes it can matter, and a lot, for example when using smaller filters or having very high amounts of feeding (like I do). I feed my fish heavily, regardless of what fish it is, and never have any ammonia or nitrite.

Again though, for your case where you have a canister filter and plenty of space to put biomedia, it does not really matter.
 
Lava rocks aren't really porous. So you'll colonization on the surface, but not inside the media. That doesn't make it a bad media.

Back in the PPE (Pre-pandemic era), I bought a bag of 3/8" pumice from General Pumice Products. It's generic Seachem Matrix that I use in everything now. The 3 pound bag they sold me is a lifetime supply of biological media.

If you have a friend nearby, the two of you could split a bag and still have a lifetime supply. Pumice is light. The 3 pound bag I bought let me fill a Fluval 305 canister filter, fill a media bag for an Aquaclear 110, and still filled 3 1 gallon freezer bags full to the point of bursting.

3/8" SIZE - 3 GALLON BAG GARDEN PUMICE — General Pumice Products

EDIT: It's on Amazon also with free shipping.
 
JollyOtter, congrats on your new FX filter.

I use them and they are great.

How will your 75g be stocked ?

Dont under estimate the ability of foam/sponge media to provide biological filtration in addition to mechanical filtration.

On my FX canisters, I remove the red baskets from the main trays. The top basket gets layers of foam/sponge. I place 30ppi foam sheet cut to fit in first, then the included round black Fluval foam pad in top.

I bought a sheet of 2" thick 30ppi foam on Amazon from the "Aquaneat" brand, and cut it to fit the round inner basket. The included black Fluval foam pad and the white outer sponge blocks are about 20ppi. PPI = pores per inch, where more pores per inch equates to a denser, thus more fine foam/sponge and less ppi is a more coarse material. Generally 10ppi is consodered coarse foam, 20ppi foams are medium, 30ppi is a medium-fine or fine foam. Most times 30ppi is the highest ppi used in filters.

The 30ppi foam pad I use catches a ton of muck and I haven't seen it restrict flow.

Also, I didn't place the included Bio-Max in the baskets. I placed them instead at the bottom of the canister body around the outer edge between the outer wall and the inner lip the bottom basket sits on. Water enters the filter and travels down the tube to the bottom of the filter, where it exists and gets forced left/right then flows upward and into the outer foam blocks wrapped around the baskets.

With the Bio-Max spread out in that outer circular bottom channel, the smooth flow of incoming water gets broken up and the heavier and larger muck settles at the bottom instead of rising up and through the layers of outer foams.
When I clean the FX every couple of months, I find a ton of muck settled around the bottom circular channel the Bio-Max trapped.

Also, I took about 2/3 of the Bio-Max and broke them in half, then mixed them up with the unbroked ones before spreading them around the bottom.

I found the Bio-Max included on FX and x07 series canisters have a hard surface that doesnt seem too porous. Fluvals 500g bulk Bio-Max that's sold loose in a box is completely different. It has a very small inner hole (unlike the huge hole in the included Bio-Max) and the composition is very porous feeling. It's completely different and appears to be a sintered glass material, where the Bio-Max included in Fluval filters is a harder ceramic material. This is only a guess though.

How is the Polyfill working so far for you? I ask because I used it when originally setting up my FX4 and don't use it anymore as a full layer.

I had tried using a layer of Polyfill, both the loose fill and batting styles, in the bottom basket on top of regular bio-media. I found with the high volume flow of water through the FX series filters, the Polyfill will end up catching too much muck and slow down the flow of water over time. So after the first time using it for a few months I removed it and never used it as a full layer

I do use the batting style Polyfill though as a "gasket" around the round foam pads in the inner basket.

I cut a length of the Polyfill batting the same height of each foam pad and wrap it around the circumference of the black Fluval foam pad and the 30ppi foam pad. It will act as a gasket between the edge of the pad and the inner wall of the basket. Water will still flow through it and will catch a lot of muck without slowing down flow of water through the filter. I dont use the batting behind the outer white blocks that wrap around the baskets.

You probably bought the loose fill version. You can use it also as a layer between the foam pads and inner wall of the basket.

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Here is a link to my album with old pics of when I set up my FX.

https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/media/albums/fluval-fx4.7409/

One of the pics shows how I placed the Bio-Max at the bottom. You can also see where I had placed cycled Pond Matrix from another canister in the bottom center section of the canister body. I used a foam block from an Aquaclear 70 and cut it to the shape I wanted to act as a dam between the Pond Matrix and the chute where water enters the pump assembly.

Ive ran it like that for 3 years and never had anything get sucked into the pump. That's a large void area that seems like a waste of space, so I figured out a way to utilize it.

Other pics show a pre-filter intake sponge in place of the intake strainer that I use.
 
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Islandvic Thanks for the advise and great tips on setting up my filter. I am currently leak testing the tank and soaking 2 piece of driftwood until my heaters arrive. They are due tomorrow and once I get them in place, I hook up the filter and start moving water. :)

I have purchased some egg crate foam and the Marine Pure media that Azedenkae recommended and have it ready to go.
 

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