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Hi! My grandparents just gave me their old 29-33 gallon aquarium. It had some random equipment and I'd love to get opinions on this filter. Anyone have or have had the AquaClear 200 (figured out this is now the AquaClear 50?) filter? Thanks!

I'll look through other brands tmrw and get other brands of heater/air pump/etc.
 

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Lol that filter is great(as long as it is working properly). Never had one but multiple people rave about them, they have a good gph and have plenty of room for media.
 

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Awesome! Thanks! I will be testing all equipment tmrw. I need to purchase the filter media yet. The tank was sitting in my grandparents garage for 20 years so...
 
Awesome! Thanks! I will be testing all equipment tmrw. I need to purchase the filter media yet. The tank was sitting in my grandparents garage for 20 years so...
Okay, I would definitely test it then. Not sure if it has held up for 20 years, but there's always a possibility.
 
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Okay, I would definitely test it then. Not sure if it has held up for 20 years, but there's always a possibility.
Haha. Yeah. We'll see. I'll keep you posted. I'll clean and fill with hose water tmrw and test equipment and stuff.
 
There's a reason they still make AquaClear filters—they're great! Don't necessarily stress about buying AquaClear filter media—any chunk(s) of foam, pumice, lava rock, bio-rings, bio-balls, etc. will all do the trick, so long as they fit into the basket. That's part of the reason they're so popular—they're highly modular!
 

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Alright! Thanks! I'm still really confused on how it works. All the layers of media, etc. I don't even know what bioballs, pumice, biorings, etc. are! I have no idea...
 
Alright! Thanks! I'm still really confused on how it works. All the layers of media, etc. I don't even know what bioballs, pumice, biorings, etc. are! I have no idea...
Haha yup. I personally would add some poly fill then bio media but just sponges should work.
 
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Ugh... I have no idea what any of those things are or where I would get them.
 

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the filter i most likely not going to work, but hopefully it does!! if you do research on filter media u will save a lot of money and ur fish will be healthier
 
I would wager the Aquaclear filter works. Just make sure when you test it, there is water in it. Dont run it dry.

I've got a couple different models of Aquaclears. They are great filters and their design hasn't changes over the years.


My suggestion is to lube the oring where the motor attaches to the filter body with food grade silicone lube. I use "Danco Weatherproof Grease" found in the plumbing section of hardware stores and home improvement stores. Any brand will work, many people use regular Vaseline to lube orings and gaskets.
Take a look at the link that Mhamilton0911 posted. A lot of good info there regarding the basics of filtration, media and a bit about the nitrogen cycle.
 
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I would wager the Aquaclear filter works. Just make sure when you test it, there is water in it. Dont run it dry.

I've got a couple different models of Aquaclears. They are great filters and their design hasn't changes over the years.


My suggestion is to lube the oring where the motor attaches to the filter body with food grade silicone lube. I use "Danco Weatherproof Grease" found in the plumbing section of hardware stores and home improvement stores. Any brand will work, many people use regular Vaseline to lube orings and gaskets.
Take a look at the link that Mhamilton0911 posted. A lot of good info there regarding the basics of filtration, media and a bit about the nitrogen cycle.
Thanks! That's really helpful! I will do that
 
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Hi everyone! As some of you know I recently got a 29-30 gallon tall from my grandparents. It had been sitting in their garage for 20 years. They found some old equipment too. I am wondering if anyone can tell me if this is complete?
AquaClear 200 (now the aquaclear 50) - see pics, other than the media, is this complete? (Have lid also)



p.s Tank holds water- yay!
 

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Anyone know what this is? They said it goes under your substrate on bottom of tank and air runs to it, so theres like an air pocket under your substrate. Is this useful? Seems confusing to me...
 

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This air pump is brand new in the box.
 

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Heater. New. Actually measures 8" and is 100 watt. In wrong box.
 

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Just a pic of the tank.
 

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Your aquaclear is missing the grey media basket, but you should be okay without it. Just use a tight fitting very coarse foam as the bottom layer in the media space and make sure you don't push it all the way to the bottom. Leave about 1/4" space open under it (water will spread out under and push up through the media). If that filter happens to make a grinding noise, get it a new impeller and shaft. Those wear out over time.
The grid, tubes etc are an under gravel filter system. Wouldn't bother using that. Might want to get a second filter though, the 200 GPH from the aquaclear is not a lot for that size tank.
 
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Alright. Thanks. It actually does make a grinding noise. My brother and me were just trying to figure that out! Do you know where I can get a replacement shaft/impeller?
 
Anyone know what this is? They said it goes under your substrate on bottom of tank and air runs to it, so theres like an air pocket under your substrate. Is this useful? Seems confusing to me...

This appears to be an undergravel filter.
 
Might be able to get those parts at your LFS, or they are readily available online (albeit shipping will usually cost more than the parts).
 
Fishgirl11 , very good score ! Especially since it was used previously by family.

Personally, I would keep water in the tank at a level right under the top lip of rim for at least a day or 2, just to make sure there is positively zero leaks.

As for the AC50, yes it needs a basket. Later today I can check the usual fish hobby supply websites and post later if I can find a reasonably priced basket.

For the motor assembly, my advise is to pull out the impeller and clean it with some warm water, a q-tip and/or old tooth brush.

The impeller shaft will stay in the motor, though it can re removed. I would only recommend removing it if it was going to be replaced.

The hole where the impeller drops into the motor can be cleaned by holding it under flowing hot water and using a q-tip to thoroughly clean the inside wall, bottom and the shaft. A paper towel w/ the corner twisted up to a point works also.

You want to ensure all the grime and deposits are off the shaft and impeller.

After cleaning the impeller, it would be good to give the blades a good visual inspection in daylight or a well lit room in the home. Just check for obvious cracks or bent blades. If all the blades look the same with no obvious deformities, then it should be good. I advise to check this because it takes only one blade that has a problem to make it all spin off-balance.

You mentioned the filter made grinding noise when you plugged it in.

Did you first fill up the filter with water ? Aquaclears must have water in them first, before plugging in.

Also, it would be a good time to carefully remove the rubber oring around the top of the motor, give the area a good wipe down with q-tip or paper towel where the oring sets in place. Also wipe down the underside of the filter body where the motor twists and locks into place.

Removing grime from these areas will ensure a watertight seal while running it.

With oring removed, five it a quick visual inspection for cracks or abrasions then run your finger over it in a circle making sure it feels smooth.

If it looks good, give it a coat with either Vaseline or the food grade Silicone Lube. This will also ensure a watertight seal.

Regarding the plates and uplift tube, yes it's an Under Gravel Filter (aka UGF). Very cool to find a vintage one, but I would personally not integrate it into the new tank set up. There are many alternatives for air pump driven filters, such as sponge filters and filter boxes. I'll post some reference links later today for you. A sponge filter running with your Aquaclear 50 would be perfect for your tank. I run a sponge filter driven by an air pump in each of our tanks.

Personally I would not use the water conditioner. I'm not a 100% firm believer on expiration dates for most things (besides food), but something like that I would be hesitant to use due to age.

With the heater, I would first inspect the glass tube for cracks then drop it in the tank and plug in while the tank is sitting during it's leak test. If it works, then consider keeping it for a back up or to use in a temporary quarantine/hospital tank. A 5-gallon bucket is perfect to use when quarantining a new fish, or when a fish needs to be removed for treatment. A 5-gallon bucket isn't ideal, but I've used it for those reasons when I didnt have a small spare tank available for QT.

Again, due to it's age and it's unknown if the heater has ever been dropped while moved around while in storage, I would be hesitant to use it for the main tank.

You can find good heaters on sale for under $20 and in my opinion , that is good insurance against heater malfunctions or possible breach of seal and electricity mixing with water !


On a side note, that is a cool looking tank with the wood grain finish on the frame. Are there any identifying stickers or markings anywhere that can clue us in on the brand? That would be interesting to know.
 
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Thank you so much! That is very helpful. Could you explain what parts are what? Thanks!
 
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The only thing it says about brand is AllGlass Aquariums, manufacturing date: May 31, 1993
 
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Yay! Filter works! Now I have to buy the filter media, and an o-ring... Doesn't have one so back of it leaks. Luckily I have it setting outside
 

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I have a AquaClear 70. It made a grinding noise at first, but the noise lessened over time with the accumulation of algae and biofilm. It might get quieter over time. Still replacing the impeller is probably not a bad idea.
 
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About the wood grain... I have to convince my dad to let me keep the oak. He wants to spray paint it cause, "I won't have oak in this house"
 
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I have a AquaClear 70. It made a grinding noise at first, but the noise lessened over time with the accumulation of algae and biofilm. It might get quieter over time. Still replacing the impeller is probably not a bad idea.
It is working nice and quiet now that I got it wet
 
The oak veneer is "vintage" fish keeping!

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Just remember it's not absolutely necessary to use the Aquaclear specific media.

The link I gave in one of my previous posts shows different options for adding your own media.

In my opinion, the bag of carbon and bag of "Bio-Max" is not needed.

Aquaclear sells 3-packs of replacement foam sponge blocks for each of their models. A 3-pack for the AC50 should cost no more than $5.

Many owners of Aquaclears stack 2 foam blocks together in the basket. Then place something else of their choosing on top, such as a bit of Polyfill batting or a small bag of bio-media.

Having 2 blocks of foam in there will catch tons of muck and also provide a ton of inner surface area for beneficial bacteria to colonize on, a lot more than stock Aquaclear Bio-Max (name for their brand of ceramic bio-media) provides.
 
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The oak veneer is "vintage" fish keeping!

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Just remember it's not absolutely necessary to use the Aquaclear specific media.

The link I gave in one of my previous posts shows different options for adding your own media.

In my opinion, the bag of carbon and bag of "Bio-Max" is not needed.

Aquaclear sells 3-packs of replacement foam sponge blocks for each of their models. A 3-pack for the AC50 should cost no more than $5.

Many owners of Aquaclears stack 2 foam blocks together in the basket. Then place something else of their choosing on top, such as a bit of Polyfill batting or a small bag of bio-media.

Having 2 blocks of foam in there will catch tons of muck and also provide a ton of inner surface area for beneficial bacteria to colonize on, a lot more than stock Aquaclear Bio-Max (name for their brand of ceramic bio-media) provides.
Oh my, thank you so much! I'm so thankful for all this info!
 
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Your aquaclear is missing the grey media basket, but you should be okay without it. Just use a tight fitting very coarse foam as the bottom layer in the media space and make sure you don't push it all the way to the bottom. Leave about 1/4" space open under it (water will spread out under and push up through the media). If that filter happens to make a grinding noise, get it a new impeller and shaft. Those wear out over time.
The grid, tubes etc are an under gravel filter system. Wouldn't bother using that. Might want to get a second filter though, the 200 GPH from the aquaclear is not a lot for that size tank.
Funny I actually figured out what that gray plastic thingie I found was... Lol. It's the basket
 
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The oak veneer is "vintage" fish keeping!

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Just remember it's not absolutely necessary to use the Aquaclear specific media.

The link I gave in one of my previous posts shows different options for adding your own media.

In my opinion, the bag of carbon and bag of "Bio-Max" is not needed.

Aquaclear sells 3-packs of replacement foam sponge blocks for each of their models. A 3-pack for the AC50 should cost no more than $5.

Many owners of Aquaclears stack 2 foam blocks together in the basket. Then place something else of their choosing on top, such as a bit of Polyfill batting or a small bag of bio-media.

Having 2 blocks of foam in there will catch tons of muck and also provide a ton of inner surface area for beneficial bacteria to colonize on, a lot more than stock Aquaclear Bio-Max (name for their brand of ceramic bio-media) provides.
K. So quick question. So if I do 2 foam blocks and purchase either bio max or polyfill stuff, what should I choose? Biomax, or polyfill?
 
Biomax is for more biological/bacterial filtration, polyfil is primarily for removing finer particles from the water. Polyfil also acts as surface area for bacteria, but it does break down over time from the rinsing you give it, and will need to be replaced periodically (and then you lose the bacteria on it).
I use biomedia myself, gave up on the fine floss because my environmental conscience screams every time I throw something in the trash. You can always get rid of finer particles by changing water more often anyway.
 
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Biomax is for more biological/bacterial filtration, polyfil is primarily for removing finer particles from the water. Polyfil also acts as surface area for bacteria, but it does break down over time from the rinsing you give it, and will need to be replaced periodically (and then you lose the bacteria on it).
I use biomedia myself, gave up on the fine floss because my environmental conscience screams every time I throw something in the trash. You can always get rid of finer particles by changing water more often anyway.
Thanks
 
Whatever you choose to add on top of the foam blocks will work.

I would recommend to keep it simple while setting everything up. Add stuff as needed based on your stocking and how the tank is doing.

The double stacked sponges will provide more than enough surface area for your beneficial bacteria to colonize on in my opinion, and judging from the experience of others.

I learned about double stacking the Aquaclear foam blocks from a Ram breeding guru here on the forum with decades of experience, a basement full of tanks, probably 40+ Aquaclears + tons of sponges filters ran by a central air pump.

I've seen the Fluval/Aquaclear bio-max they sell. It comes in about 4 different versions depending if it came with a particular filter, comes pre-bagged as a replacement or in their 500g bulk box.

All of their ceramic Bio-Max (except for what comes in the 500g bulk box) has a hard non-porous surface that isn't going to colonize beneficial bacteria anymore then gravel. The foam blocks will provide more than enough biological bacteria.

Adding a bag of Bio-Max wont hurt, but it might not help as much as most people think.

I'm not against traditional bio-media, I still have some in a couple of filters, but mainly because it's been in there for over 2 years and no use pulling it out now.

You may not even need to add anything else beyond stacking 2 blocks in there. When I switched my community fish over to a 65g tank my friend gave me, it's only running a sponge filter, and 2 HOB's (Tidal and Top Fin Silentstream). It's overstocked and only has a couple of plants, but the tank stays very clear without using Polyfil.
 
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Whatever you choose to add on top of the foam blocks will work.

I would recommend to keep it simple while setting everything up. Add stuff as needed based on your stocking and how the tank is doing.

The double stacked sponges will provide more than enough surface area for your beneficial bacteria to colonize on in my opinion, and judging from the experience of others.

I learned about double stacking the Aquaclear foam blocks from a Ram breeding guru here on the forum with decades of experience, a basement full of tanks, probably 40+ Aquaclears + tons of sponges filters ran by a central air pump.

I've seen the Fluval/Aquaclear bio-max they sell. It comes in about 4 different versions depending if it came with a particular filter, comes pre-bagged as a replacement or in their 500g bulk box.

All of their ceramic Bio-Max (except for what comes in the 500g bulk box) has a hard non-porous surface that isn't going to colonize beneficial bacteria anymore then gravel. The foam blocks will provide more than enough biological bacteria.

Adding a bag of Bio-Max wont hurt, but it might not help as much as most people think.

I'm not against traditional bio-media, I still have some in a couple of filters, but mainly because it's been in there for over 2 years and no use pulling it out now.

You may not even need to add anything else beyond stacking 2 blocks in there. When I switched my community fish over to a 65g tank my friend gave me, it's only running a sponge filter, and 2 HOB's (Tidal and Top Fin Silentstream). It's overstocked and only has a couple of plants, but the tank stays very clear without using Polyfil.
thank u! I think I'll get the activated carbon insert along with 2 foam blocks
 

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