Goldfish in tropical tanks at pet store

Gr198868

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So idk if you have ever seen this before but every now and then when I go to the pet store and see goldfish in the tropical tanks. Both the tropical fish and the goldfish seem perfectly happy and healthy and I'm just confused on how they manage to pull that off without having one or the other be really stressed
 

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Either it’s temporary or the temp is a flat 72. It’s not ideal tho, that’s irresponsible of the petstore to do that. It sends the wrong message
 
I know many people have a fixed opinion on this one. They are often the same people who say that a fish raised in hard water with a PH that is not the same as their wild cousins is fine because it’s tank raised for generations.
Now here is the thing. The majority of goldfish sold in Australia are breed in Thailand. The temperature of the water and climate is tropical.
When sold in my town the helpful shops will tell you they NEED a heater and are not suitable for our outdoor climate in winter.
 
I've not seen Goldfish in tropical tanks in shops in the UK, they tend to have a coldwater section for Goldfish.
 
It really depends. 75 degrees is max for a goldfish but many tropical fish are fine in these temperatures. So it depends on what fish they’re with but many will be fine. It also depends on the kind of goldfish and where it came from. It also depends a lot on filtration.

The main reason this isn’t such a big problem is commercial filtration. Higher temps decrease the oxygen but a mass commercial filtration system is a million times better then these little HOB filter or canister filters we use in the hobby. These systems can cost tens of thousands of dollars and are so superior they can make up for a lot of parameters. They keep parameters more consistent than anything we have at home and consistency is more important than actual, specific numbers.

It just really all depends on what is going on. Obviously a small store just dumping random fish with extreme variations in requirements is irresponsible, but I would not be so quick to judge without knowing the specifics.

There are tons of things in a pet store that sends the wrong message, like bettas in a cup, one gallon kits with a goldfish and 10 neons on the cover of the box...sure it’d be nice to have knowledgeable employees that can advise better and a store that refuses to sell anything that might send the wrong message, but the fact is better employees and clarified misconceptions costs money. Are you willing to pay 2-3x for your fish for a store that makes less money by hiring adequate employment? Most people are not.

Thus, ultimately, it is up to the consumer to educate themselves. And I feel anyone who walks into a store trying to replicate anything done in there without educating themselves is equally to blame. Education is the definition of a responsible pet owner.
 

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