Game Of Thrones Fans?

Arya. My lil bundle of murder. She's all grown up. So glad she's been one of my faves since season 1.
 

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I also was not a fan of some of the execution, but still a fan regardless. As my husband pointed out, it is not a movie. It just reminded me of the Lord of the Rings - Two Towers? but just rushed and not as good. For me. But given the constraints understood.
 

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It was dark to the point of being mostly unwatchable. The whole defense of Winterfell was a disaster. Starting off by suiciding your cavalry into the enemy front lines. Trebuchets were on the front lines. The spiked barricade was behind the front lines. The 'trench' wasn't really a trench. White walkers did absolutely nothing. The battle never felt like it was in the good guys' favor until they suddenly won, and yet we lost only two characters. Night King didn't even get to fight anyone. This whole season just feels like huge fan service.
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Why I didn't like the Arya scene. It seemed like fan service. So I ask myself what was the point of Jon's resurrection? He's supposed to be this Azor Ahai, the savior, but they completely threw that in the gutter to what? Cheap subversion? If the show does the "Clegane Bowl," ( I hope not), then this show truly is just fan service. As a book reader, there are so many reasons that wouldn't even make sense. Overall, though, I did enjoy this episode a lot.
 
Why I didn't like the Arya scene. It seemed like fan service. So I ask myself what was the point of Jon's resurrection? He's supposed to be this Azor Ahai, the savior, but they completely threw that in the gutter to what? Cheap subversion? If the show does the "Clegane Bowl," ( I hope not), then this show truly is just fan service. As a book reader, there are so many reasons that wouldn't even make sense. Overall, though, I did enjoy this episode a lot.
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I wanna read the boooks reallll bad!

I'm hoping Jon ends up king, and Kills Ciercy
 
I'm honestly kind of tired of hearing people complain about "the prophecy" or "azor ahai" or what have you. We've been conditioned by the likes of LotR to expect that the prophecy and the Big Battle Against the Thing Outside of Politics is the be-all and end-all of the narrative. Never stop to think-- what comes AFTER the big existential threat is dealt with? As mundane as they seem compared to a force of twisted nature like the Ice Zombie Apocalypse, politics aren't just gonna stop forever afterwards.

I think George RR Martin had this quote, about how Tolkein's idea of "If a good and just king rules, then everything's good and just" seemed too easy. "No one asks what Aragorn's tax policy was like." We got lots of stories about epic battles against inhuman hordes but not a lot that confront the, ah, more grounded and "boring" aspects of saving and ruling a kingdom. This story's always been about that, as well as confronting the fact that life's not an elegantly crafted narrative.

There was setup to Ned living. He didn't. Robb was the unconquered avenger, and a lot of the narrative was dedicated to setting up future war plans before crossing the Twins. Aaaand then he gets shanked at the Red Wedding. Night King was hyped up as unstoppable and... well...

So really, I think it might be interesting for the show to actually have to address how a medieval society might respond to this fustercluck of dragons, invaders, a spiteful queen, and the fact that a huge chunk of its population just got decimated. It's a huge mess that can't be easily resolved. I'm glad they're choosing to dedicate some time to it, rather than make the same played-out morally unambiguous slaughter of a monster horde the ultimate destination and tying up all the fallout from such an event with a neat lil bow.
 

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I just read an article that talked about a lot of foreshadowing in previous seasons of what Arya did last night, and not just the eye colors thing with Melisandre. Makes me kinda think it was meant all along?
 
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I just read an article that talked about a lot of foreshadowing in previous seasons of what Arya did last night, and not just the eye colors thing with Melisandre. Makes me kinda think it was meant all along?
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Not sure what reality is behind the scenes, but in the "inside the episode" segment after last nights show, they said they've known for 3 years that it was going to be her...
 
I wanna know what Bran was doing the whole time warging while the world was ending around him. We saw him fly around as a crow for a bit until he came across the Night King and that was it.
 
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Not sure what reality is behind the scenes, but in the "inside the episode" segment after last nights show, they said they've known for 3 years that it was going to be her...
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They also said they didn't want to go with the obvious choice. It's better than Theon Greyjoy. I was thinking Theon would do it. Either that or Bran wasn't as helpless as he appeared. I literally forgot about Arya. But we all know the true hero is Melisandre.
I wanna know what Bran was doing the whole time warging while the world was ending around him. We saw him fly around as a crow for a bit until he came across the Night King and that was it.
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Nothing at all. Just being completely useless. Now that it's all over, he can die now and it would have zero impact on the world.

I love the battle, especially the begining DothrakI scene. Loved how menacing the Knight King was.
 
Nothing at all. Just being completely useless. Now that it's all over, he can die now and it would have zero impact on the world.

I love the battle, especially the begining DothrakI scene. Loved how menacing the Knight King was.
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I literally laughed out loud when Bran said “I’m going to go now.” I was like, of course you are.
 

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I wanna know what Bran was doing the whole time warging while the world was ending around him. We saw him fly around as a crow for a bit until he came across the Night King and that was it.
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My bf said the same thing last night. Where did he go???
 
Where else would he go!! He went to see what CerseI was up too. He already knew what was going to happen there. That’s why he gave Arya the knife. Great show last night!! Adrenaline rush! One uped it and went to see endgame today! Head hurts!! Wow!! There’s allways haters but best cinema I’ve seen in years!! Got to wonder if GOT set that episode up knowing endgame was this weekend. Both well done
 
Where else would he go!! He went to see what CerseI was up too. He already knew what was going to happen there. That’s why he gave Arya the knife. Great show last night!! Adrenaline rush! One uped it and went to see endgame today! Head hurts!! Wow!! There’s allways haters but best cinema I’ve seen in years!! Got to wonder if GOT set that episode up knowing endgame was this weekend. Both well done
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I LOVED it so much IM watching it again!!!
 
Where else would he go!! He went to see what CerseI was up too. He already knew what was going to happen there. That’s why he gave Arya the knife. Great show last night!! Adrenaline rush! One uped it and went to see endgame today! Head hurts!! Wow!! There’s allways haters but best cinema I’ve seen in years!! Got to wonder if GOT set that episode up knowing endgame was this weekend. Both well done
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I watched End Game too. I felt it was even better than Infinity War. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect after the first 15-20 minutes!
 
I had to laugh @ this thread. I'm an uber nerd and have read all the books and have seen every episode. For those who haven't but want to, know that George RR Martin is by far the MOST AGGRAVATING AUTHOR EVER. The series differs from the books, why? because he hasn't written the next book! The 5th book came out in 2011 and he's been working on the next book ever since.

Now for the show. I have many questions. What happened to the White Walkers? Where were they when their king was getting snuck up on??? And what happened to the babies that were given to the knight king way back in the early seasons? How in the world was the Night King killed that easily? How in the world do they just "end" after 1000 years of being a threat, a threat so big there's a giant wall to keep them behind?
 
Well what I wanna know is did the second dragon die? Just showed it coming in for a crash landing and that was it! I hope not, they are the best part of the show lol.
 
It is seen in the coming attractions for next week .
Whitewalkers all died. One did look over its shoulder just before Arya attached. Babies all became whitewalkers. Ended the threat with valerian steel . Wall was also for the wildings.
 
While I loved the last episode I still feel like the way it ended left a little more to be desired. I didn't think the entire threat from the dead was going to end in that episode. All these years of building up the white walker threat, building up the story line of Bran and his connection with the Night King for it to end like that? What was Bran doing the whole time warged into the crows? The character arc of Bran and the Night King was slowly built over years ,so much emphasis and mystery was put into Brans story line for so long and I just feel unsatisfied with the conclusion. We also have to remember the Night King doesn't even exist in the books, the Night King was always a "side villain"...and I always figured the entire series would end on what the entire story is about....who takes the Iron Throne, not whether the WW or living win.
 

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I think a fight between Jon and the Night King would have been cool after all these seasons of them having stare downs. He did pretty much nothing as it stands, just walked and then poof. I'm fine with Arya killing him, but a fight would have been cool. Also what were Drogon and Daenerys doing sitting there like that??
It is seen in the coming attractions for next week .
Whitewalkers all died. One did look over its shoulder just before Arya attached. Babies all became whitewalkers. Ended the threat with valerian steel . Wall was also for the wildings.
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The wall was built specifically for the walkers, the wildlings were just on the other side when it was built. Over time people stopped believing in the walkers and thought it had been built for the wildlings.
 
I'm ready for Clegane Bowl!! The Hound Vs. The Mountain......it HAS to happen
 
Well what I wanna know is did the second dragon die? Just showed it coming in for a crash landing and that was it! I hope not, they are the best part of the show lol.
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So I watched the trailer a few times and there's a quick shot that shows Sansa looking out and watching 2 dragons in the sky. I think he's OK. (yes I did this instead of working on my massive work project)
 
While I loved the last episode I still feel like the way it ended left a little more to be desired. I didn't think the entire threat from the dead was going to end in that episode. All these years of building up the white walker threat, building up the story line of Bran and his connection with the Night King for it to end like that? What was Bran doing the whole time warged into the crows? The character arc of Bran and the Night King was slowly built over years ,so much emphasis and mystery was put into Brans story line for so long and I just feel unsatisfied with the conclusion. We also have to remember the Night King doesn't even exist in the books, the Night King was always a "side villain"...and I always figured the entire series would end on what the entire story is about....who takes the Iron Throne, not whether the WW or living win.
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People forget or don't realize that only the first book is called Game of Thrones, but the series as a whole is called A Song of Ice and Fire.
 
There are 3 episode's left!!! Anything can happen!!!
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That was the third episode arnt there 4 left? Thought this season was 7 episodes?
 
Just three left. I read they are each around 80 minutes long, give or take a couple minutes.
 
Well that’s a bummer! Now they may just run through CerseI like the night king and spend two episodes tying everything up .
 
I'm ready for Clegane Bowl!! The Hound Vs. The Mountain......it HAS to happen
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Please, no, that'd just more fan catering. If it does happen it'd go something like this: Arya suddenly and out of nowhere saves The Hound just as he is about to die. Then she quickly and deftly brings down The Mountain in a single blow. She turns back towards The Hound, who looks at her in bewilderment, and gives him her cold, dead-eyed stare and tells him now we're even in a cool monotone. Hound just stares at her confused. She does an about-face and walks away like a total G to take care of CerceI and Danny Stormborn. See? I can be subversive. HBO hire me NOW?
 

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Please, no, that'd just more fan catering. If it does happen it'd go something like this: Arya suddenly and out of nowhere saves The Hound just as he is about to die. Then she quickly and deftly brings down The Mountain in a single blow. She turns back towards The Hound, who looks at her in bewilderment, and gives him her cold, dead-eyed stare and tells him now we're even in a cool monotone. Hound just stares at her confused. She does an about-face and walks away like a total G to take care of CerceI and Danny Stormborn. See? I can be subversive. HBO hire me NOW?
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Nope not go a happen. Hound is going to stab the mountain with a piece of dragon glass and he’s going to shrieval up and die. Remember he is dead already.
 
A bad episode of GOT is still better than most other shows but I think S8E3 was weak and disjointed. I compare it to battles like Hardhome and the Blackwater and to me it pales in comparison.

Strategically it made no sense. DothrakI rushing into the dark, catapults and troops placed where they were, not using the dragons to decimate the approaching army before they killed thousands. It's like someone contrived the flaming swords visual (which was great!) and they wrote the script around it.

The payoff of the living versus dead storyline, which opened the show and has been the biggest threat the whole time, wrapped up in a single night and with three episodes left. To me, there's nothing related to CerseI or the throne that seems anywhere near as important.

Don't get me started on the visual darkness. The show's execs said people are complaining because we don't know how to calibrate our TVs properly. Fine; maybe that's true. But when it's too dark for most viewers then you've made a bad call.

Google "S08E03 fight of the dragons - brightness up, speed down" to see a nice adjustment of the dragon brawl posted to Reddit. I never saw Jon's cape fly off; it was so dark.

Of course I'll keep watching the show. I just feel S8E3 wasn't one of its best episides and I'm less enthused about what's to come.
 
A bad episode of GOT is still better than most other shows but I think S8E3 was weak and disjointed. I compare it to battles like Hardhome and the Blackwater and to me it pales in comparison.

Strategically it made no sense. DothrakI rushing into the dark, catapults and troops placed where they were, not using the dragons to decimate the approaching army before they killed thousands. It's like someone contrived the flaming swords visual (which was great!) and they wrote the script around it.

The payoff of the living versus dead storyline, which opened the show and has been the biggest threat the whole time, wrapped up in a single night and with three episodes left. To me, there's nothing related to CerseI or the throne that seems anywhere near as important.

Don't get me started on the visual darkness. The show's execs said people are complaining because we don't know how to calibrate our TVs properly. Fine; maybe that's true. But when it's too dark for most viewers then you've made a bad call.

Google "S08E03 fight of the dragons - brightness up, speed down" to see a nice adjustment of the dragon brawl posted to Reddit. I never saw Jon's cape fly off; it was so dark.

Of course I'll keep watching the show. I just feel S8E3 wasn't one of its best episides and I'm less enthused about what's to come.
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Honestly, there's a pretty major calibration issue with TVs related to HBO streaming, though it depends on your TV. It doesn't stream in HDR, so we have to use settings just for HBO that are completely different from everything else. We could hardly see the crypt scene between Dany and Jon, so my bf looked it up then. It says more about how HBO is streaming its content that anything though.
 
Honestly, there's a pretty major calibration issue with TVs related to HBO streaming, though it depends on your TV. It doesn't stream in HDR, so we have to use settings just for HBO that are completely different from everything else. We could hardly see the crypt scene between Dany and Jon, so my bf looked it up then. It says more about how HBO is streaming its content that anything though.
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That's partly why I'm irked by the response from GOT's cinematographer, who said “A lot of the problem is that a lot of people don’t know how to tune their TVs properly", that of course watching it on a small screen will be a problem, and viewers should know it needed to be watched in a dark room. Then he doubled down and said "I know it wasn’t too dark because I shot it.”

I feel they're out of touch if they think most people are viewing it on big 4k screens. I'm lucky to get 720 on my screens through Comcast, TiVo, and my devices.

I'm sure the episode is fantastic when perfectly-calibrated, high def, not compressed, on a large screen, in a dark room. I just don't think that's the experience most viewers had and I'm annoyed by their response to the criticism.
 
I’ve got a 65” high def 4K Samsung tv. It was dark. No clue how I could have lightened it. If tv needed to be tuned before there should have been a notice and maybe some info into how. Also we allways watch it with the lights off.
 
That's partly why I'm irked by the response from GOT's cinematographer, who said “A lot of the problem is that a lot of people don’t know how to tune their TVs properly", that of course watching it on a small screen will be a problem, and viewers should know it needed to be watched in a dark room. Then he doubled down and said "I know it wasn’t too dark because I shot it.”

I feel they're out of touch if they think most people are viewing it on big 4k screens. I'm lucky to get 720 on my screens through Comcast, TiVo, and my devices.

I'm sure the episode is fantastic when perfectly-calibrated, high def, not compressed, on a large screen, in a dark room. I just don't think that's the experience most viewers had and I'm annoyed by their response to the criticism.
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Yeah, I definitely agree. We have a 4k LG OLED TV and stream HBO through the 4k PS4, but they only push the stream at 1080p and without HDR. So we have to shut off HDR and the smart black thing that it does (turns off lights for black instead of making black "light") to make dark scenes visible. But shutting stuff off gives a visible gradient to dark scenes that just looks bad unless you have it perfectly calibrated. According to google, we could just let it do the smart auto if we were watching on a blu-ray instead of streamed. I just wish they would fix their stream instead of forcing people to recalibrate their TVs. Ours saves calibration settings per device, so we're still good when we switch to blu-ray, but most people don't have that kind of technology for their TV.

Ultimately, if their stream was good, no one would need to calibrate their TV beyond standard.
 

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I liked that it was dark!!! It kept you wondering what the heck is going to happen!!!
 
Yes so did I. Come on he was the night king! What was he suppose to attack at lunch .
 
as much as ive tried to get into the show... I just can't lol
 
Yes so did I. Come on he was the night king! What was he suppose to attack at lunch .
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It's driving me crazy how many people are complaining about it!!! IMO it would NOT have worked out if they did it in the daytime.
 
I thought the super darkness was intentional to add to the suspense and sense of foreboding, not poorly calibrated TVs. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
 
I’m ready! I rewatched the first three episodes today lol.
 
I thought the super darkness was intentional to add to the suspense and sense of foreboding, not poorly calibrated TVs. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
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It was intentional. But what I saw on the day of release - and what others saw was not as it was intended to be seen. You had to configure your TV or something to get the full experience - not many knew what to actually do. For instance, when the unsullied were first being charged by wights, I couldn't see them until the last possible moment when they were right in front of them. Yesterday my brother showed me how it was intended to be watched and it was so much clearer. You could make everything out. You could see the wights charging and a massive wave of them piled up in the background - the charge and the fight afterwards was really clear. Its honestly pretty annoying that my first experience with the episode was on a badly configured TV.
Everyone ready for tonight's episode of GOT??? I AM!!!
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Reeeallly excited. Though after tonight there's only two more...... its coming to an end too fast!!
 

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