First post, need urgent advice

[Teman]

Hello all!

I have been watching this forum for sometime and I am relatively new to the hobby (2 years). I have 4 aquariums and starting this morning I have made some troubling observations in tank. Two of my Calico short tail ranchus are developing red streaks near the caudal and pectoral fins. They were fine the night before. Here are the current parameters.

ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 40ppm
PH 7.5
Attaching some photos of Milky and Bobo.

Thank you for any help!

T

 

[SeaMonkey06]

Hello all!

I have been watching this forum for sometime and I am relatively new to the hobby (2 years). I have 4 aquariums and starting this morning I have made some troubling observations in tank. Two of my Calico short tail ranchus are developing red streaks near the caudal and pectoral fins. They were fine the night before. Here are the current parameters.

ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 40ppm
PH 7.5
Attaching some photos of Milky and Bobo.

Thank you for any help!

T

Hello

Gorgeous Ranchu Goldfish

Your nitrates are a bit high, which could be the cause of the problem. I would do a large water change to try get them down to about 5-10ppm is ideal. What size is your tank, and what fish do you have in there?

 

[Teman]

Thank you for the reply SeaMonkey06!

It is a 125 gallon tank. There is only one more fish. A 6 inch Oranda named Helmet. He seems ok but he has a lot of red already near his head so it’s not quite conclusive.

I will do a 60-70% water change now. I did add some PraziPro just in case there is a bacterial problem. I also added some aquarium salt. I will report back. I am very concerned ... I have had them over a year with no issues.

attached photo of Helmet

 

[SeaMonkey06]

Sorry, I can't even... I love Goldfish and yours are beautiful If I had the space I'd definitely keep some.

Sounds like a plan. Usually the best answer is a water change, so just hold off adding anything more for a while and see if the water change does any good.

All the best

 

[Teman]

Thanks my friend. This tank takes time to drain and refill ... I will report back.

I love my fish so I have 3 tanks and 1 quarantine tank. The other two tanks have zero problems (knock on wood) and one of them contains 14 baby ranchus from China.

 

[Teman]

Performed a 70% water change. Nitrates down to 10ppm. Want to get it to zero but let’s see how the fish react tomorrow morning. Might do another big water change tomorrow. Thanks again!

 

[Cgtoxic]

Kinda late but check this out Help!! red vein-like streaks on fins | Goldfish 9896

 

[Teman]

At least they are happy and eating well

 

[Teman]

Kinda late but check this out Help!! red vein-like streaks on fins | Goldfish 9896

Cgtoxic thanks for the reference link!

 

[Teman]

Kinda late but check this out Help!! red vein-like streaks on fins | Goldfish 9896

I suspect that this is hemorrhagic septicemia. I have moved Milky and Bobo to the quarantine tank which has no carbon filter to remove the medication (prazipro). I will be watching them.

 

[SeaMonkey06]

Performed a 70% water change. Nitrates down to 10ppm. Want to get it to zero but let’s see how the fish react tomorrow morning. Might do another big water change tomorrow. Thanks again!

No worries. 10ppm is a perfect amount of nitrates, if it was zero, your aquarium wouldn't be cycled, (unless you're going zero nitrates, which is a different story entirely) which is not what you want!

Good luck with your gorgeous fish! I hope it clears up. I'm no expert in Goldfish, but NevermindIgnoreMe knows a bit about goldfish illness and I'm sure they'd be willing to help you out.

All the best!

 

[Teman]

Thanks! Both Milky and Bobo have improved greatly in one day in the quarantine tank. Much of the red streaks near the caudal and pectoral fins are gone. I used a dose of prazipro which lasts up to 5 days and some salt. Sponge filter with no carbon ensures the medicine is not removed from the water. So far so good. Fingers crossed ! Thanks again

 

[A201]

Septicemia is more of a symtom than an actual disease. The cause agents can be Virus, Bacterial or less than perfect water parameters.
Sounds like the water changes were the answer. Happy to hear the Goldies are on the road to recovery. Very pretty fish.

 

[SeaMonkey06]

Thanks! Both Milky and Bobo have improved greatly in one day in the quarantine tank. Much of the red streaks near the caudal and pectoral fins are gone. I used a dose of prazipro which lasts up to 5 days and some salt. Sponge filter with no carbon ensures the medicine is not removed from the water. So far so good. Fingers crossed ! Thanks again

I'm so glad that Milky and Bobo are doing well All the best for their recovery, and keep us updated! (Those fish are beautiful!)

 

[Teman]

Septicemia is more of a symtom than an actual disease. The cause agents can be Virus, Bacterial or less than perfect water parameters.
Sounds like the water changes were the answer. Happy to hear the Goldies are on the road to recovery. Very pretty fish.

Thanks A201. They seem to be on the road to recovery. I have heard horror stories of Septicemia wiping out all the fish in a tank if not treated right away. The part that concerns me is how my fish acquired the symptoms. The 125 gallon enclosed tank has only one other fish and he did not have the symptoms. The tank has zero ammonia, zero nitrites but slightly high nitrates. There was a recent algae bloom, probably from the nitrates. My concern is I have no idea how this virus or bacteria may have entered the ecosystem.

I did the 80% water change and got the nitrates down to 10ppm. After two fish recover in the quarantine tank, is it safe to put them back?

 

[A201]

If I understand correctly, the affected fish continued to eat & otherwise acted normally. If that's the case, bacteria or virus, probably wasn't the problem.
Some fish are just more sensitive to nitrates.
It's at your discretion when to reintroduce the fish, but IMO, since the nitrates have been lowered, really no reason to continue QT.