Filter For 75g Cichlid Tank

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HI Guys
I will be setting up a 75G non-Planted Cichlid tank soon, dimensions are 48*18*20 inches (L*B*H), I have no experience with large tanks so I need some advice regarding filter type to choose. I heard about canister filters but I want other alternative. Please suggest.

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Canisters are good love em and I use them aswell big fan of the fluval but I'm a sump man, sump everything lol sumps not just for saltwater

You can setup a sump which will out perform and descent canister for a fraction of the price

I'm doing a discus/planted tank soon and it'll be sumped
 

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HI Guys
I will be setting up a 75G non-Planted Cichlid tank soon, dimensions are 48*18*20 inches (L*B*H), I have no experience with large tanks so I need some advice regarding filter type to choose. I heard about canister filters but I want other alternative. Please suggest.

Thanks
I have a 75 gallon. The magic number is 10x (min 8x). You want enough filtration to supply 10x your capacity or about 750 gallons per hour. This is because once you set everything up and it's all running for a while, the flow is restricted by as much as 50% or 375 gallons per hour (which is now 5x) due to the filter being packed with media. It's like blowing through a screen door, doesn't work that well. I use a canister and a HOB.
 
I love my AquaClear HOBs.
Flow rate can be less then 10 or 8 but often circulation via power head or 'wave maker ' is used .
I would put at least 1 @ AC 110 on a 75g. I run a AC70 and AC 110 on my 60's and 80g.
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Priyesh, are you going to start with small cichlids, or buy them already large?

I ask, because if you're buying the cichlids as juveniles and raise them, your initial filtration requirements will be less at the beginning.

On my 75 gallon community tank, I started with an Aquaclear 70 and 110. Months later, I added a Hydor 600 canister.

I initially resisted a canister for fear of leaks. I figured out that most reviews of people stating they have leaks were ultimately from user error and not malfunction.

If you're trying to keep it simple, a pair of Aquaclear 110's would be an excellent start.

Since you haven't set your tank up yet consider a Poret foam Cornerfilter from SwissTropicals.com (link).

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It's a sponge filter on steroids, where an air pump drives their Jetlifter (link) to move tank water through the sponge wall. The flow rates of a Jetlifter are remarkable. For every liter of air flow, up to 4 liters of water uplifts through the tube.

A $26 Fluval Q2 air pump flowing 240lph of air would push up to 250gph of water through a Jetlifter.

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There are a ton of DIY Cornerfilter tank installation videos on YouTube. Very popular in Europe. They can go months and up to a year without cleaning.

Dual Aquaclear 110's plus a Poret foam Cornerfilter would be unique and give excellent filtration for a cichlid tank, without using canisters.
 
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Priyesh, are you going to start with small cichlids, or buy them already large?

I ask, because if you're buying the cichlids as juveniles and raise them, your initial filtration requirements will be less at the beginning.

On my 75 gallon community tank, I started with an Aquaclear 70 and 110. Months later, I added a Hydor 600 canister.

I initially resisted a canister for fear of leaks. I figured out that most reviews of people stating they have leaks were ultimately from user error and not malfunction.

If you're trying to keep it simple, a pair of Aquaclear 110's would be an excellent start.

Since you haven't set your tank up yet consider a Poret foam Cornerfilter from SwissTropicals.com (link).

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It's a sponge filter on steroids, where an air pump drives their Jetlifter (link) to move tank water through the sponge wall. The flow rates of a Jetlifter are remarkable. For every liter of air flow, up to 4 liters of water uplifts through the tube.

A $26 Fluval Q2 air pump flowing 240lph of air would push up to 250gph of water through a Jetlifter.

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There are a ton of DIY Cornerfilter tank installation videos on YouTube. Very popular in Europe. They can go months and up to a year without cleaning.

Dual Aquaclear 110's plus a Poret foam Cornerfilter would be unique and give excellent filtration for a cichlid tank, without using canisters.

Hi
I would be starting with small African Cichlids and so many filters would be costly for me. My Lfs suggested only Top Filter but few guys advised me to go with cheap sunsun canister HW302 which will cost around 54$. Aquaclear 70 alone wud cost me 43$. I am new and want to invest slowly. Now this is what my situation is, so please advise.
Also my pH is 8.2 and TDS is around 400, that's why I want to keep African Cichlids. Please also advise on species of african cichlids that I can keep together and quantity of each one considering small size.

Thanks
 

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Hi
I would be starting with small African Cichlids and so many filters would be costly for me. My Lfs suggested only Top Filter but few guys advised me to go with cheap sunsun canister HW302 which will cost around 54$. Aquaclear 70 alone wud cost me 43$. I am new and want to invest slowly. Now this is what my situation is, so please advise.
Also my pH is 8.2 and TDS is around 400, that's why I want to keep African Cichlids. Please also advise on species of african cichlids that I can keep together and quantity of each one considering small size.

Thanks

I run a Sunsun 303B with a new Seachem Tidal 55 on my 75 gallon. Plenty of filtration for my Chichlid tank.
 
***This post began short, then became long winded after I started to add more and more....***

Gotcha!!! Now I understand where your'e starting from!

Definitely start with Peacock Cichlids from Lake MalawI in my opinion. They are the least aggressive species of African Cichlids. On the other end of the spectrum, Mbuma Cichlids are the most aggressive African Cichlids, also from Lake Malawi.

From what I have seen from my own research, the Peacock Cichlids give you an excellent blend of color, size and lower aggression.

There are dozens and dozens of Peacock sub-species of all colors.

Some excellent YouTube Channels to check out that deal with cichlids and other fish hobby subjects I would recommend to watch and learn from.


There are a ton of excellent channels
I learned at lot from their videos before finding this forum!

Here are also some good resources on cichlids I have found while researching them myself. Eventually I want a cichlid tank myself!!

Companies with online cichlid sales and overnight delivery. (I have never bought from them and listed in no particular order)
Live Fish Direct
Imperial Tropicals
Cichlid Lovers
Tampa Bay Cichlids


Starting slowly and piecing everything together is a great way to start. I didn't know about this forum when I started and wish I had the guidance from seasoned hobbyist at the beginning. You're definitely on the right track!

As far as your filters, I wasn't sure of your budget and the size of cichlids you were starting with when I had posted before.

Since you are on a budget and starting with small cichlids, you could start with 1 or 2 inexpensive HOB filters. As the fish grow larger you can add the 2nd HOB or a canister filter down the road.

The Sun Sun canisters you mentioned are good budget entry level filters. The only down side really with those are two-fold. First their included media is not great. The bio-balls and ceramic rings Sun Sun provides are not going to colonize a ton of beneficial bacteria that cichlids need compared to quality bio-media from Fluval, Seachem, Eheim etc etc. You're going have to spend some extra $$ down the road for extra quality bio-media when the cichlids grow and the nitrogen cycle can't keep up with their bio-load.

Second, Sun Sun's have been known to rate their GPH very liberally. Actual flow rate through their included media could range from 50-70% of advertised flow rate. After adding additional media to the trays, that rate drops even more.

Keep this in consideration when weighing your options.....

An inexpensive, yet cost effective set up would be to run a $26 Marineland Pengiun 350 filter with only 2 simple and cheap DIY mods. It's pump is rated at 350gph.

When budget allows, run 2 Penguin 350's with the upgrade mods explained below. Or get one 350, add some media to it and as the fish grow get the 2nd one. Or upgrade to a canister later on.

(Penguin 350 )



Although an out-of-the-box Penguin 350 doesn't come with all the media equivalent to an Aquaclear 70, with some easy DIY mods it becomes a filtering hot rod. For half the price, you can make it hold 2x the media of a stock Aquaclear 70.

DIY Mods for Penguin 350.....

The 1st DIY mod involves boosting it's mechanical filtration capacity and eliminating buying cartridges again.

Buy a 3-pack of Aquaclear 70 sponges for $4.99 from Petsmart or online.



1 will be used as an intake sponge and the other 2 will go into the back reservoir. These will act as your primary mechanical filtration and secondary biological filtration. The sponges are reusable and have an exponentially larger surface area to trap debris in the water compared to the cartridges. They will save you $$, catch more debris and act as a bio-filter compared to using the cartridges.

With the 1st sponge., watch this link to Youtube of a guy using the sponge to slip onto the intake tube to make a pre-filter. Take off the strainer from the intake tube and cut the sponge so it can slip onto end of the intake tube. This will catch stuff before it enters the impeller assembly and the rest of the media. It keeps the impeller cleaner for longer, and keeps the media in the reservoir also cleaner for longer. (
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Next, take the other 2 filters and insert 1 each to the left and right side reservoirs. Place them standing up and shove them toward the inside. When water flows out the intake tube in the middle toward the L/R reservoir, the water will shoot out directly into the inner sponges.

For $5, you have reusable mechanical media with 3x the capacity of a stock Aquaclear 70.

The 2nd DIY mod involves boosting the 350's capacity as a bio-filter. The Penguin's "Bio-Wheel" can be a hot topic as to how well it colonizes beneficial bacteria. So I won't get into the debate if the Bio-Wheel works or how well it may or may not. The OP wants to set up a cichlid tank, so maximizing the filter's ability to complete the nitrogen cycle is imperative.

After the sponges are inserted in the L/R reservoirs, a large void remains toward the outsides. This is a perfect place to drop in some bio-media!

Each Penguin 350 will need 2 media bags and bio-media.

You can get $1 media bags from Petsmart I'm sure they can be had from Amazon as well.



Then you need to fill the bags with some quality bio-media. Here are some examples.

Fluval Bio-Max 500g for $6.99 a box. You might be able to fit 2 boxes into the voids of the reservoir. Amazon and Petsmart have them for that price. For reference, the Aquaclear 70 only comes with a 195g bag of Bio-Max. So the 500g box loaded into a Penguin 350 has 2.5x the biological filtration compared to a stock Aquaclear 70, and that's not including what the Bio-Wheels and the 3 sponges contribute!



or use....

Seachem Matrix, 2 liters for $19.94 The 2 liter container could probably be split between 2 separate Penguin 350's



Seachem Matrix is one of the most porous bio-media you can get. Excellent stuff. I use both Matrix and Bio-Max. Each is quality stuff.

$26 Penguin 350
$5 3-Pack Sponges
$2 Media Bags
$7-$14-$20 Bio-Media (depending if you get 1 or 2 Bio-Max or the 2 liters of Matrix)

So for between $40-$53 you can have a HOB style filter rated at 350gph with 3x the mechanical filtration and a minimum 2.5x the biological filtration of an Aquaclear 70. It will have great mechanical filtration and excellent biological filtration. Plus with HOB style filters, you can check, clean and move around the media a lot easier than a canister.

When the cichlids grow larger, get a 2nd hot rod Penguin 350 set up.

Or set up one Penguin 350 now, and wait until Black Friday and find a deal for a canister filter. Petsmart routinely offers 50% off their canister filters during this time. They usually will have their Marinland Magniflow canisters for 50% off, and/or their Fluval x06 series and FX4/6 series canisters for 50% off.

Retailers online will probably run Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales on canisters also.

Let us know how it goes piecing everything together!
 
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***This post began short, then became long winded after I started to add more and more....***

Gotcha!!! Now I understand where your'e starting from!

Definitely start with Peacock Cichlids from Lake MalawI in my opinion. They are the least aggressive species of African Cichlids. On the other end of the spectrum, Mbuma Cichlids are the most aggressive African Cichlids, also from Lake Malawi.

From what I have seen from my own research, the Peacock Cichlids give you an excellent blend of color, size and lower aggression.

There are dozens and dozens of Peacock sub-species of all colors.

Hi
It was a very informative reply from you, I will definitely look into all those YouTube videos and websites for more information.
Regarding the marine land penguin 350 filter, I am from India and Amazon sells it at 100$. But I will follow your advice and do some research and get a good filter and then add another later on.
It's not like I only wanted a cichlid tank, my LFS said since pH is very high I must keep cichlids coz they will handle it well and is very hardy fish. Will surely look into rainbow species.

Thanks a ton for ur advice. Looking for more advice from you and others.
 
Ha, I didn't know about you being on another continent!

That is insane the Penguin 350 is $100!

Regardless, you're on the right track with the research and asking questions here on the forum.

Your water parameters appear close to mine with the high pH. Another reason I want to get into cichlids also.

You can save a lot of $$ with simple do-it-yourself hacks and mods with equipment. I got a ton of ideas from the YouTube channels I mentioned.

With proper planning, you will be able to get into the tank you want.

Good Luck!
 

Random Great Topic!

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