Ever Had Coworkers Fabricate Lies?

[logqnty]

My dad teaches online, and two of his students turned in papers what where both extremely wrong in the same way. They where such dumb papers. They just had to skI'm the book to get the questions right. But the students claim not to be cheating. They have the option to bring their case to the student-administration board If they do that, my dad will have to drive 14 hours to the schools physical location, and appear before the board. This problem has taken up so much of his time already.
There are just some dishonest people in the world, and the best thing you can do about it is not be one of those people.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

After taking a few screenshots and comparing my hours paid, I was shorted almost 100 dollars on my paycheck.
Even if my hours were reduced by a whole shift, I still would have made more money than what I was actually paid..

I worked 67 hours and got 1.3 hours of overtime.
I was given a net payment of 760, plus 24 for overtime.
Then my taxes were once again removed.
My gross payment for those 67 hours was 870.
Yet somehow I only received 690 from that paycheck.
I have never in my life ever ever seen a company take 200 dollars worth of taxes out of a single paycheck.

Even if my pay was reduced to what it is now, 12.60 instead of 13.30 like it was those weeks, I still, again, would have made almost as much if not more than what I was actually paid if you take off a shift.

I have to call ethics to fix it, but honestly I don't even think it's worth it.
I am done done done done with this company.
I'm going to be quitting next month.
Hopefully I get a fish store job lined up before then...

I am not going to stand for shorted paychecks.
Absolutely ridiculous.

When I was originally hired I worked the same amount of hours mu first two weeks.
67.
I received a net pay of 640, plus my instant pay of 120.
So net was 760, which I received.
No excuse for me not to receieve my extra 100 dollars.

 

[david1978]

I have already shorted someone 14 hours. Not sure how. I put everyone else's time in but not his. And no it wasn't on purpose.

 

[Helaurin]

You should complain, especially if you don't already have your next job lined up. It could be an honest mistake, especially if the pay is calculated manually. If automated, you might not be the only one shorted that works there. And if you can prove they are purposely shorting you (or others), they can end up with a huge fine.

I usually figure that for any paycheck, between 25% - 30% will end up going to taxes.
If your gross pay was $870, then I'd expect the pay, net of taxes and before any employee benefits were deducted, to be between $609 - $652.

Taxes withheld vary based on your income, your withholding status, what taxes are taken from your check (Federal, State, Local, Unemployment, Disability, an annual Occupation tax, Medicare, City, Township, etc). I've seen a check have as much as $2,160 taken out in taxes, and a check from the same employer the following pay cycle have as little as $1,083 taken out for taxes.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

I have already shorted someone 14 hours. Not sure how. I put everyone else's time in but not his. And no it wasn't on purpose.

Fortunately, everything here is electronic. Someone had to manually change things or charge me.
A machine doesn't make this mistake on it's own when following it's single action code.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

You should complain, especially if you don't already have your next job lined up. It could be an honest mistake, especially if the pay is calculated manually. If automated, you might not be the only one shorted that works there. And if you can prove they are purposely shorting you (or others), they can end up with a huge fine.

I usually figure that for any paycheck, between 25% - 30% will end up going to taxes.
If your gross pay was $870, then I'd expect the pay, net of taxes and before any employee benefits were deducted, to be between $609 - $652.

Taxes withheld vary based on your income, your withholding status, what taxes are taken from your check (Federal, State, Local, Unemployment, Disability, an annual Occupation tax, Medicare, City, Township, etc). I've seen a check have as much as $2,160 taken out in taxes, and a check from the same employer the following pay cycle have as little as $1,083 taken out for taxes.

I would assume if they had 2000 in taxes taken out, that it wasn't nearly half.their paycheck.

My.taxes wouldn't randomly change though. I regularly lose a stable amount each check.
Theres no reason to have a net of 760 and get it previously but not this time.
There are no new deductions or fees or fines.
Nothing has changed and nothing changes without showing you the change.

This is my "pay"
It doesn't show any loss of money like it should if it was removed.

 

[Helaurin]

Yeah, I haven't seen a paycheck that poorly documented as to what specifically was taken out (reason, amount) since.... 1981. And I'm not being snarky, that's how my paychecks were formatted back in the dark ages. Every employer since then has been very good about documenting on each paycheck how much was taken for each specific tax and/or employee deduction.

Several years ago, I led a project to replace the pay system at my then-employer. If I'd even considered a system that produced checks formatted like that, I would have drawn & quartered.

Personally, I'd ask for an explanation.

 

[nikm128]

Is that even minimum wage you're getting payed? According to google that's $12.00 an hour in Washington, 12x67 = $804. I'm not math inclined enough to calculate taxes, but there's no way taxes were $104.
$12.60 and hour X 67 hours is $844.02, $13.30 an hour X 67 hours is $891.01.Your pay definitely doesn't add up either way.

 

[MomeWrath]

After taking a few screenshots and comparing my hours paid, I was shorted almost 100 dollars on my paycheck.
Even if my hours were reduced by a whole shift, I still would have made more money than what I was actually paid..

I worked 67 hours and got 1.3 hours of overtime.
I was given a net payment of 760, plus 24 for overtime.
Then my taxes were once again removed.
My gross payment for those 67 hours was 870.
Yet somehow I only received 690 from that paycheck.
I have never in my life ever ever seen a company take 200 dollars worth of taxes out of a single paycheck.

Even if my pay was reduced to what it is now, 12.60 instead of 13.30 like it was those weeks, I still, again, would have made almost as much if not more than what I was actually paid if you take off a shift.

I have to call ethics to fix it, but honestly I don't even think it's worth it.
I am done done done done with this company.
I'm going to be quitting next month.
Hopefully I get a fish store job lined up before then...

I am not going to stand for shorted paychecks.
Absolutely ridiculous.

When I was originally hired I worked the same amount of hours mu first two weeks.
67.
I received a net pay of 640, plus my instant pay of 120.
So net was 760, which I received.
No excuse for me not to receieve my extra 100 dollars.

As long as you are an hourly, non-exempt (not management usually) employee, and unless you had 25.7 hours of drive time or stand-by time, your employer is required to pay overtime for all hours in a week worked over 40. (I'm assuming that is one week's pay...)That's federal law. Overtime is a tricky area, and I know WA has some weird laws. Is it still no income tax there? Also they are required to produce a detailed pay stub explaining what deductions were taken. If you have an online system there is probably an option in that system to get a pay stub. Also overtime is usually taxed more heavily than straight time. I usually have about 26% of my gross pay deducted, plus whatever benefits I have to pay for myself. Literally half of my income is gone before I ever get my pay.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

As long as you are an hourly, non-exempt (not management usually) employee, and unless you had 25.7 hours of drive time or stand-by time, your employer is required to pay overtime for all hours in a week worked over 40. (I'm assuming that is one week's pay...)That's federal law. Overtime is a tricky area, and I know WA has some weird laws. Is it still no income tax there? Also they are required to produce a detailed pay stub explaining what deductions were taken. If you have an online system there is probably an option in that system to get a pay stub. Also overtime is usually taxed more heavily than straight time. I usually have about 26% of my gross pay deducted, plus whatever benefits I have to pay for myself. Literally half of my income is gone before I ever get my pay.

This is a two weeks pay.
We work for two weeks and get paid on the 3rd week.
The first week was 20 hours
I worked all 20 and then some.
The second week was 40, I worked all 40 and then some again.
I was set for 60, but this pay is like I only worked 50 or so.

I only have my first paycheck in paper.
I do have an option to get a paper check.
This is not our actual "check" but an app we can use to track our scheduled hours and our pay, as well as it is used as an auto pay app.
You can choose to withdraw up to half of your paycheck at anytime before you get it once you make 90 dollars I think.
So for my first paycheck, I got 120 early.
I worked 67 hours those first two weeks as well.
Then when I was paid my paper check before direct deposit was setup, I was paid the rest of the 600 and change.

The closest other 2 week paycheck I have is for 650, I believe that was a 51 hour 2 week period, with no overtime.

Even if my overtime is taxed more heavily, losing 10 bucks off of it wouldn't really bother the other 180 that was apparently taxed.

The net payment is supposed to add up to what I get paid.

The first weeks was this.
And here it shows my 120 dollar instant pay deduction.

I should have only got about 106 or so taken out in taxes.
And if I worked 51 hours, I believe that taxes were 91 dollars.
So either way, there's still about 100 unaccounted for.
I'm unsure if I can get the previous paper check or not.
I also have a feeling it will show different numbers than this one.

My drive time is less than 5 minutes. I bike to work each day, I live 2 blocks away.
Lol

I don't know about income tax, haven't gotten that far in life yet... Lol

When I did my math, it said I get about 2.73 dollars taken our per hour I work I believe.
Unless I did it wrong.
That was 2 dollars off of 13.30 not 12.64.
12.60 is minimum, but I don't think this paycheck adds up to minimum, especially if I'm not counting what it says for the gross and net pay.

67 hours for 690 pay is barely 10 dollars. This means not only did I not make minimum but I was shorted an untaxed dollar at least once every hour.
As well as change.

 

[MomeWrath]

So let's look at what they paid you:
66.5 hrs straight time, and 1.3 hrs OT in two weeks
66.5 x $13.30=$884.45
1.3 x $19.95 (time & 1/2)=$25.93
Gross pay $910.38 - (obviously their calculators work differently than mine, and a company that size probably rounds you down from the 4th decimal place, which adds up nicely for them across 50,000 employees...)
Guestimating taxes and withholding at approx 24% that would be about $218 leaving you with a net pay of about $691, (these are just guesses at the actual rates that I use to get close for my own budget) which you ended up with more than that probably because WA does not have income tax. So it looks like they paid you for the hours that are shown properly, but if you worked more hours than that, then that is a whole other matter that should really be taken up with the Wage and Hour Division if your employer is refusing to pay you for time worked.
Taxes suck.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

So let's look at what they paid you:
66.5 hrs straight time, and 1.3 hrs OT in two weeks
66.5 x $13.30=$884.45
1.3 x $19.95 (time & 1/2)=$25.93
Gross pay $910.38 - (obviously their calculators work differently than mine, and a company that size probably rounds you down from the 4th decimal place, which adds up nicely for them across 50,000 employees...)
Guestimating taxes and withholding at approx 24% that would be about $218 leaving you with a net pay of about $691, (these are just guesses at the actual rates that I use to get close for my own budget) which you ended up with more than that probably because WA does not have income tax. So it looks like they paid you for the hours that are shown properly, but if you worked more hours than that, then that is a whole other matter that should really be taken up with the Wage and Hour Division if your employer is refusing to pay you for time worked.
Taxes suck.

Still does't really match with the other paycheck though.

If there were 4 weeks where I worked 67 hours in a 2 week period, and 2 of them included no over time, I don't believe that I should get less if I worked overtime than if I didn't, let alone 100 dollars less.

My first check was for 67 hours, it was 760 bucks(not including my instant pay taken out a week earlier). I don't see how there's anyway it would be less than that the next time. Taxes haven't gone up, my wages didn't change in that time.

The gross pay is correct, what isn't correct is my net pay going lower after it's already had taxes withdrawn.

when the app shows you the money, the net pay is what you get. You don't get taxed again after that. They're showing me what I was taxed, then the final is them both added together. my overtime that was taxed ended up being 21 instead of 24.
That means I get taxed 3 dollars for each overtime hour rather than just 2.

But my full pay should be the net pay added up, not anything lower.

 

[nitsuj]

I would assume if they had 2000 in taxes taken out, that it wasn't nearly half.their paycheck.

My.taxes wouldn't randomly change though. I regularly lose a stable amount each check.
Theres no reason to have a net of 760 and get it previously but not this time.
There are no new deductions or fees or fines.
Nothing has changed and nothing changes without showing you the change.

This is my "pay"
It doesn't show any loss of money like it should if it was removed.

generally speaking (presuming 1st world and typical laws) you should be getting or should have access to a "paystub". That attached is not a "paystub".

That said you rate computes to 15%; presuming the estimate of your net is accurate and "deduction" is all the taxes / benefits applicable. That's a reasonable rate imo for tier one taxes. a touch high for less than full time (presuming 67 hours is two weeks with the OT being computed from a single week). That said maybe ya'll have a high non taxable income amount...whatever...either way 15% all in is reasonable.

So that leaves......
what on earth is "insta-pay"? that's 15.6% of your net! more than you pay in tax....I doubt the value you receive from it doesn't even come close to the value received from the taxes that were deducted!

 

[Mrjazzery]

After taking a few screenshots and comparing my hours paid, I was shorted almost 100 dollars on my paycheck.
Even if my hours were reduced by a whole shift, I still would have made more money than what I was actually paid..

I worked 67 hours and got 1.3 hours of overtime.
I was given a net payment of 760, plus 24 for overtime.
Then my taxes were once again removed.
My gross payment for those 67 hours was 870.
Yet somehow I only received 690 from that paycheck.
I have never in my life ever ever seen a company take 200 dollars worth of taxes out of a single paycheck.

Even if my pay was reduced to what it is now, 12.60 instead of 13.30 like it was those weeks, I still, again, would have made almost as much if not more than what I was actually paid if you take off a shift.

I have to call ethics to fix it, but honestly I don't even think it's worth it.
I am done done done done with this company.
I'm going to be quitting next month.
Hopefully I get a fish store job lined up before then...

I am not going to stand for shorted paychecks.
Absolutely ridiculous.

When I was originally hired I worked the same amount of hours mu first two weeks.
67.
I received a net pay of 640, plus my instant pay of 120.
So net was 760, which I received.
No excuse for me not to receieve my extra 100 dollars.

Me too my check was supposed to be 1100 I took home 790 withholdings and tax and being a single male

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

generally speaking (presuming 1st world and typical laws) you should be getting or should have access to a "paystub". That attached is not a "paystub".

That said you rate computes to 15%; presuming the estimate of your net is accurate and "deduction" is all the taxes / benefits applicable. That's a reasonable rate imo for tier one taxes. a touch high for less than full time (presuming 67 hours is two weeks with the OT being computed from a single week). That said maybe ya'll have a high non taxable income amount...whatever...either way 15% all in is reasonable.

So that leaves......
what on earth is "insta-pay"? that's 15.6% of your net! more than you pay in tax....I doubt the value you receive from it doesn't even come close to the value received from the taxes that were deducted!

Instapay is just meaning I have the option to take out money in advance.
So I took out 120 dollars a week before I got my actual paycheck. So instead of 760 in one check for my first one, I got the 600 dollar payment since I had already claimed my 120.

 

[Crazycoryfishlady]

Looked at my online paystub, said I only worked 59 hours those 2 weeks.
That's why my pay is short.
Someone somehow edited my hours without it showing on the app.