Didn’t cycle tank

[Momgoose56]

Just got home to begin!

What is the medication you got? You need to remove the carbon from your filter and leave the media in the filter. There is ich all through that media and it needs to be treated at the same time the rest of the tank is treated.

 

[KribensisLover1]

What is the medication you got?

What they had so no choice:/

 

[Momgoose56]

What they had so no choice:/

What are the ingredients in it? Did you remove the carbon from your filter?

 

[KribensisLover1]

What is the medication you got? You need to remove the carbon from your filter and leave the media in the filter. There is ich all through that media and it needs to be treated at the same time the rest of the tank is treated.

O okay happy you told me that! And happy I washed my hands thoroughly and will again.
Ok so ALSO the med says with invertabrates to use twice daily every other day (bc dose is split)
So I’m thinking I would do water change in morning (Fri!)
Then “ first” dose (I’m dosing tonight but that’s pre water change)
Then second dose later
Then wait until Sunday for the next dose

but the question in all of this is My ammonia. My levels are already too high.Will taking out the carbon and leaving the sponge and bio stuff be enough? That’s why this guy was saying to put filter back in for 24 hours on the non dose says. Not saying he was right but Is the remaining stuff ok with the ammonia as well?

What are the ingredients in it? Did you remove the carbon from your filter?

Oops sorry am seeing these out of order

And I took this out
I totally thought carbon what stuff at the top
Luckily I looked!
so I am keeping the rest in. ANd that’s ok for the 6 treatments? Twice a day every other day for three days

 

[Momgoose56]

O okay happy you told me that! And happy I washed my hands thoroughly and will again.
Ok so ALSO the med says with inverts rates to use twice daily every other day (bc dose is split)
So I’m thinking I would do water change in morning (Fri!)
Then “ first” dose (I’m dosing tonight but that’s pre water change)
Then second dose later
Then wait until Sunday for the next dose

but the question in all of this is My ammonia. My levels are already too high.Will taking out the carbon and leaving the sponge and bio stuff be enough? That’s why this guy was saying to put filter back in for 24 hours on the non dose says. Not saying he was right but Is the remaining stuff ok with the ammonia as well?

Okay. I'm confused. You're happy I told you what? To take the carbon out? And you washed your hands because why?

 

[KribensisLover1]

Okay. I'm confused. You're happy I told you what? To take the carbon out? And you wanted your hands because why?

Hahahaha I’m happy you said carbon and not the other parts. Bc then I checked. I totally thought carbon was the bio max thing. This entire time! So I took out the correct piece but I’m happy you mentioned it again so I checked right now as I was doing it! And I was jk about washing my hands! You said ich was all in the filter bits and I was just handling them. Ich sounds so sketchy! The name alone!

Okay. I'm confused. You're happy I told you what? To take the carbon out? And you washed your hands because why?

Not sure how to store it so it’s sitting in there. The dish it’s in Is dry

 

[Momgoose56]

I can't read the blurry you posted.

Not sure how to store it so it’s sitting in there. The dish it’s in Is dry

What do you think will happen if you put that ich covered carbon back in your filter after you are all done treating your tank for ich?

 

[KribensisLover1]

I can't read the blurry you posted.

What do you think will happen if you put that ich covered carbon back in your filter after you are all done treating your tank for ich?

Oh yes I would get new carbon. I actually did learn on here that perhaps I can simply get another sponge and do away with the carbon? Tho maybe that’s not relevant now. Some people said they just get another sponge and cut it and put it in. Regardless the medicine says NOTHING about the ingredients Just simply that it treats ich. Ugh! I did get the heater tho and was waiting to order the carbon as it’s much cheaper online OR to see if a sponge is okay! I hope that’s ok! I just want to keep ammonia down but TY so much! Makes no sense to remove all that stuff and then put back in every 24 hours. Just to reinfect! Silly.

Oh yes I would get new carbon. I actually did learn on here that perhaps I can simply get another sponge and do away with the carbon? Tho maybe that’s not relevant now. Some people said they just get another sponge and cut it and put it in. Regardless the medicine says NOTHING about the ingredients Just simply that it treats ich. Ugh! I did get the heater tho and was waiting to order the carbon as it’s much cheaper online OR to see if a sponge is okay! I hope that’s ok! I just want to keep ammonia down but TY so much! Makes no sense to remove all that stuff and then put back in every 24 hours. Just to reinfect! Silly. I am so clueless.

 

[Momgoose56]

Oh yes I would get new carbon. I actually did learn on here that perhaps I can simply get another sponge and do away with the carbon? Tho maybe that’s not relevant now. Some people said they just get another sponge and cut it and put it in. Regardless the medicine says NOTHING about the ingredients Just simply that it treats ich. Ugh! I did get the heater tho and was waiting to order the carbon as it’s much cheaper online OR to see if a sponge is okay! I hope that’s ok! I just want to keep ammonia down but TY so much! Makes no sense to remove all that stuff and then put back in every 24 hours. Just to reinfect! Silly.

More filter media is always a good thing. As I said, you would use carbon to remove residual medication in the tank. But you can do a couple water changes, gravel stirring and vacuuming instead. I only keep carbon on hand to use for medication removal or in case of a chemical accident.

I hope this stuff works for you.

 

[KribensisLover1]

More filter media is always a good thing. As I said, you would use carbon to remove residual medication in the tank. But you can do a couple water changes, gravel stirring and vacuuming instead. I only keep carbon on hand to use for medication removal or in case of a chemical accident.

Ok so after this I will get another sponge. After the ich is gone! Crossing fingers. It seems to be early on I HOPE.

I hope this stuff works for you.

O goodness! I’ll order rid ich then! They didn’t have it.

 

[Momgoose56]

O goodness! I’ll order rid ich then! They didn’t have it.

Where do you live? I assumed you lived somewhere antibiotics/ antiparasitics were banned since your local fish store didn't have any antiparasitics. I thought you didn't want to use carcinogens (formalin).

 

[KribensisLover1]

Where do you live? I assumed you lived somewhere antibiotics/ antiparasitics were banned since your local fish store didn't have any antiparasitics. I thought you didn't want to use carcinogens (formalin).

Baltimore! It was Petco!! That was what they had:/ I didn’t realize it was one or the other like very strong or totally herbal.

 

[KribensisLover1]

More filter media is always a good thing. As I said, you would use carbon to remove residual medication in the tank. But you can do a couple water changes, gravel stirring and vacuuming instead. I only keep carbon on hand to use for medication removal or in case of a chemical accident.

I hope this stuff works for you.

I used some tea tree oil as well just as a helped until today. They all died. Every single fish. It’s all my fault. Just updating you

I used some tea tree oil as well just as a helped until today. They all died. Every single fish. It’s all my fault. Just updating you

How do I clean the tank? I would like to EVENTUALLY get a crayfish after MONTHS of cycling. I am still too upset to think about it now. But how do I clean the tank? Even to get rid of the ich to store it? And can I keep the aquaclear but just get new filter media? I suffocated them the color is leached out of one. Maybe I’m not fit to be a fish owner

 

[Momgoose56]

I used some tea tree oil as well just as a helped until today. They all died. Every single fish. It’s all my fault. Just updating you


How do I clean the tank? I would like to EVENTUALLY get a crayfish after MONTHS of cycling. I am still too upset to think about it now. But how do I clean the tank? Even to get rid of the ich to store it? And can I keep the aquaclear but just get new filter media? I suffocated them the color is leached out of one. Maybe I’m not fit to be a fish owner

So sorry about the fish!! If I were you, I would get some pure ammonia and finish cycling the tank with that. The ich will die without a host. Just turn tank temp up to 86. Ich will be gone in 4 days.
By the time your tank is cycled, you'll be itching for more fish! Keep the filter als the media running. At the higher temp and without a host, the ich will be gone!

 

[KribensisLover1]

So sorry about the fish!! If I were you, I would get some pure ammonia and finish cycling the tank with that. The ich will die without a host. Just turn tank temp up to 86. Ich will be gone in 4 days.
By the time your tank is cycled, you'll be itching for more fish! Keep the filter als the media running. At the higher temp and without a host, the ich will be gone!

thank you so much. This is what angry rainbow said which is exactly what you are saying! The number 4 where she says yes is to 86 degrees! I can’t clean the tank out today (besides burying the poor babies) bc I have a human funeral (ironically). So Angryrainbow said to wait and then start tomorrow. I am thinking ONE electric blue crayfish. I hear they are hardy and I have a heater to regulate the temp. Aquatic arts or something like that sells them. I’m leaving town for ten days next week so I’ll continue to cycle then.
tomorrow I’ll clean out, vacuum, add conditioned water, put heater in cranked up and carbon back in filter and then start adding ammonia also. I am thinking it will take about a month to both kill ich and then cycle tank. Should I leave heater in the entire time?

 

[Momgoose56]

thank you so much. This is what angry rainbow said which is exactly what you are saying! The number 4 where she says yes is to 86 degrees! I can’t clean the tank out today (besides burying the poor babies) bc I have a human funeral (ironically). So Angryrainbow said to wait and then start tomorrow. I am thinking ONE electric blue crayfish. I hear they are hardy and I have a heater to regulate the temp. Aquatic arts or something like that sells them. I’m leaving town for ten days next week so I’ll continue to cycle then.
tomorrow I’ll clean out, vacuum, add conditioned water, put heater in cranked up and carbon back in filter and then start adding ammonia also. I am thinking it will take about a month to both kill ich and then cycle tank. Should I leave heater in the entire time?

Angry Rainbow? I didn't see comments by Angry Rainbow but good, more opinions for you. Yes leave heater in, 82 degrees, get ammonia. You can't cycle the tank without it. Vacuum, change water, replace carbon. You don't need to to do any other cleaning. But you can't cycle the tank without ammonia.
Get Pure Ammonia. No detergents, surfactants, perfumes or dyes. Read the label. It should contain only ammonia and water and should have a concentration on the label- usually 4% to 10% ammonia.

 

[KribensisLover1]

Angry Rainbow? I didn't see comments by Angry Rainbow but good, more opinions for you. Yes leave heater in, 82 degrees, get ammonia. You can't cycle the tank without it. Vacuum, change water, replace carbon. You don't need to to do any other cleaning. But you can't cycle the tank without ammonia.
Get Pure Ammonia. No detergents, surfactants, perfumes or dyes. Read the label. It should contain only ammonia and water and should have a concentration on the label- usually 4% to 10% ammonia.

 

[Momgoose56]

Is it pure ammonia? Do they say what's in it specifically? If not, I'd just go to a store and buy some I could read the label on. I can't tell with a picture from the computer. Lots of household cleaning ammonia has other stuff in it.

 

[KribensisLover1]

Is it pure ammonia? Do they say what's in it specifically? If not, I'd just go to a store and buy some I could read the label on. I can't tell with a picture from the computer. Lots of household cleaning ammonia has other stuff in it.

Yes I’ll check