Betta Breeding Questions

[Rtessy]

Can you take a picture of the set up? You shouldn't have a filter in the breeding tank, or substrate

 

[alicia_lynn]

Males will sometimes eat the eggs. It's also possible that the filter destroyed the bubble nest so the male no longer had a place to put the eggs, and they've settled into the substrate

 

[Craj]

There is filter in the tank I turned it off before the breading I will send u a picture

Can you take a picture of the set up? You shouldn't have a filter in the breeding tank, or substrate

This picture was taken when the breading was on

 

[garlicrbrian]

Was this picture taken before or after the bubble nest was destroyed?

 

[Craj]

Curren pitcher

 

[alicia_lynn]

Is that a HOB filter that you've turned on after breeding?

 

[Craj]

No it is off all the time

 

[alicia_lynn]

What is it that's causing the surface agitation in that last picture then?

 

[Rtessy]

You definitely need to take out all the gravel, the babies will fall, get stuck, and die, because the male won't be able to get them. You need to go bare bottom, and the filter really shouldn't be in the baby tank at all.
What kind of live food cultures do you have going?

 

[Craj]

No it is off all the time

So I have to remove the gravel n filter but iam scared the rest bubble nest would distribute

You definitely need to take out all the gravel, the babies will fall, get stuck, and die, because the male won't be able to get them. You need to go bare bottom, and the filter really shouldn't be in the baby tank at all.
What kind of live food cultures do you have going?

I feed them blood worms

 

[Repolie]

I unfortunately do not think this spawn will survive. You aren't supposed to have substrate during breeding because as said above, the eggs will fall, get stuck in between the gravel and the male cannot go pick them back up. They will then die. You should research a bit more again before attempting to breed again.

 

[alicia_lynn]

I believe they meant what live food are you currently culturing for the babies when they hatch. The babies won't be able to eat bloodworms

 

[Craj]

If the baby hatch I will feed them egg yoke is it ok

 

[alicia_lynn]

I unfortunately do not think this spawn will survive. You aren't supposed to have substrate during breeding because as said above, the eggs will fall, get stuck in between the gravel and the male cannot go pick them back up. They will then die. You should research a bit more again before attempting to breed again.

I agree. Bettas especially can be difficult to breed and this can definitely be summed up as a learning experience The first time I tried to breed fish I lost the whole spawn too

 

[Rtessy]

I feed them blood worms

Yes, I meant for the young. Are you feeding the adults only bloodworms? That's really not healthy for them, bloodworms should only be fed 1-2 times a week.
I'm not sure what to recommend at this point in time, you can leave what's left and see what happens over the next few days. They should be free swimming in 5ish days, some are extremely weak and take longer.

If the baby hatch I will feed them egg yoke is it ok

Unfortunately egg yolk will not work for baby bettas. They will only go after live foods, trust me, I've been trying to get mine on non live foods since they first hatched and it's been 7 weeks without success

 

[alicia_lynn]

If the baby hatch I will feed them egg yoke is it ok

I do not have any experience with using egg yolk but I've heard it can be harder to keep the tank clean.

 

[Craj]

Yes that's true but I didn’t find any food for the frys in the pets shops too I already searched all pets shops in dubai

 

[alicia_lynn]

Yes that's true but I didn’t find any food for the frys in the pets shops too I already searched all pets shops in dubai

You can make your own:

 

[Rtessy]

Right, fry food won't work, you need live cultures like microworms. It's possible to raise them for the first 3-4 weeks on infusoria. Look up how to culture that, you can do it practically for free

 

[Craj]

But I don’t think that this time the breading will be successful might be I have to try next time and one thing to ask u that with in how many days I can breed the same pair again

Hello today I see some thing in the tank it is so small I don’t know whether it frys or fungus its very difficult to see I can’t even capture it so can u tell what it could be it’s white spots like thing I don’t

 

[Jimothy K]

So I have decided I want to cross Breed my Dragon Scale Betta with a Female Veil tale that I have. I have the tank set up and I have had the male in the tank for about a week, and I put the female in roughly 36 hours ago. The male still hasn't formed a bubble nest. Any help for someone new to breeding bettas? thanks.

 

[CaptAnnDuchow]

So I have decided I want to cross Breed my Dragon Scale Betta with a Female Veil tale that I have. I have the tank set up and I have had the male in the tank for about a week, and I put the female in roughly 36 hours ago. The male still hasn't formed a bubble nest. Any help for someone new to breeding bettas? thanks.

They should have built the nest before adding the female. Do you have an idian almond leaf in the tank? Very low flow? Immaculate water with perfect parameters?

 

[Jimothy K]

Great parameters, zero flow, and a live plant.

 

[CaptAnnDuchow]

Guanchy any advice

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Agree try floating her in a cup or in a breeder box. The male should dance for her and begin making a bubble nest. Where did you buy the bettas?

 

[Jimothy K]

Petsmart about a couple months ago

 

[CaptAnnDuchow]

Petsmart about a couple months ago

Usually they are past breeding age when bought in chain stores ..or so I was told

 

[Jay15]

I would put them back in their original separate tanks for a few days or even a week. Feed them really good foods to condition them. Then I would put the male in the breeding tank and just float the female in something (I used a betta cup that they are sold in). He should start to build a nest once he is able to see her.

 

[Iverg1]

Petsmart genetics aren’t really the best but you could give it a go. May I ask what size tank? And have you done this before? (Your bio says you have 10 years of experience so I assume yes I just want to make sure though)

 

[Jimothy K]

never attempted to breed bettas, other fish: plenty of experience. I heard they produce less fry as they get older, but they can still breed. I have a five gallon for breeding.

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Agree please do not just breed any random fish from a petstore. Bettas genetics are the WORST from petstores. Plus many other reasons just make them terrible for breeding. They can still produce 80 fry at the least. You have jars ready and such for when the get aggressive? Do you have a plan of where you will be selling them to?

 

[Jimothy K]

yes, I have jars bought and sitting in my room. I have lans for selling them.

 

[Iverg1]

Do you have good fry food?

 

[Jimothy K]

they look healthy and seem to have extremely strong genetics, although I know that this doesn't necessarily make that true, but they don't have any deformities.

yes I have good fry food.

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Can we get some photos? Now I want to see these cuties! Maybe a tank photo too and we can tell you what to add for bubble nest making. Do you have your live fry food cultures and worms?

 

[Joshaeus]

So...you have infusoria, microworm, and grindal worm cultures running, brine shrimp eggs ready to hatch, you're ready to commit to one or more small daily WC's, etc? I've bred black paradise fish before (very similar endeavor, though arguably easier) and it's lots of work.

 

[Jimothy K]

I have infusoria, microworms, vinegar eels, and jar of pre-bred baby brine shrimp off of amazon.

Can we get some photos? Now I want to see these cuties! Maybe a tank photo too and we can tell you what to add for bubble nest making. Do you have your live fry food cultures and worms?

Do you want to see pictures of fry? I don't have any yet. I'll post pictures of my bettas in a little bit. and yes, small water changes will be easy for me to do every day.

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Yes I meant the photos of the pair your breeding. Seems to be a good food selection. Just not the best genetics of bettas.

 

[Guanchy]

I would not out the female in until he builds his nest. Leave the female in a cup or breeder box floating in the tank until he builds his nest and then let her out.

Now, I would recommend condinition the pair in separate tanks before breeding them. Breeding is very stressful and you have to make sure they are well fed and healthy before breeding them because when a fish is stressout it’s easily for them to get sick.

Check my breeding video out

Let me know if you have any other question

 

[Jimothy K]

Here Are the bettas(I couldn't get a good picture of the Female...)

 

[Demeter]

Just throwing my 2 cents in. Generally you do not want to cross VT with any other fin types. VT are probably the least desirable fin type and the most dominant in terms of genetics. All the young from your pair will be VT and unless you have a very reliable pet store in your area you will likely have a hard time finding homes for the dozens of fry they produce.

Other than that, I think everyone else already covered the breeding advice. I like to use a divider when I spawn a pair. Keep the male on one side and the female on the other. Once they female actively starts trying to get around the divider I put her on his side. Mine always seem to spawn the day after I put them together.

 

[Jimothy K]

thanks

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Hmm, the finnage isn't the best and they are very thin. These genetics may create some crazy bettas that will need to be culled.

 

[Jimothy K]

yes, I know. Culling is a process we do with all fish though, isn't it. Too bad we have to though sometimes. One time I had some platies and Mollies mix and all but one of the fry had to be killed because of severely bent spines, I had never seen anything like it. I had a similar problem with breeding danios once.

Also The picture doesn't do the Male Justice, and He looks much better and healthier in person. (I take all my pictures on a bad Phone camera)

 

[CanadianFishFan]

yes, I know. Culling is a process we do with all fish though, isn't it. Too bad we have to though sometimes. One time I had some platies and Mollies mix and all but one of the fry had to be killed because of severely bent spines, I had never seen anything like it. I had a similar problem with breeding danios once.

And that's exactly what happens with pet store bettas. I can show you my imported betta vs pet store betta on how thick they are.

 

[Jimothy K]

ok

where would you recommend importing bettas from? something cheap if possible....

 

[gingerrr43]

I would put them back in their original separate tanks for a few days or even a week. Feed them really good foods to condition them. Then I would put the male in the breeding tank and just float the female in something (I used a betta cup that they are sold in). He should start to build a nest once he is able to see her.

Hi. I have a female Betta by herself, she has started laying what looks like tiny bubbles packed together. Are they actually eggs?

 

[CanadianFishFan]

Hi. I have a female Betta by herself, she has started laying what looks like tiny bubbles packed together. Are they actually eggs?

I just making a separate thread for yourself. it may be a male or a female making a bubble nest. Send photos on a new thread and tag me.

 

[MrShmoopy]

So this is a question of pure curiosity I don’t breed bettas and I don’t plan on it, but do betta require live plants to breed? I know a lot of fish do and I know it’s recommended to have them when breeding bettas, but is it absolutely necessary? Like will the bettas not breed if there aren’t live plants?

 

[david1978]

Its recommended for any breeding operation but I can't think of one fish that's its an absolute must.