Albino Dantumn Angels Breeding In Coralbandits Fishroom And More !

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Well I am thinking although a pair , I moved /caught the wrong pair of silver Dantumns to the 65 g with the Bolivian rams .
Why ? Well first this am I see this ;
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Then when I got home today I see this !
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That's a big pot so it won't fit in a dip and pour !
But that is a lot of eggs ?? I mean a LOT !
Guess who has a 5 gallon empty and a huge desire for these fish ???
The pot is mine tonight !
 

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Well I am thinking although a pair , I moved /caught the wrong pair of silver Dantumns to the 65 g with the Bolivian rams .
Why ? Well first this am I see this ;
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Then when I got home today I see this !
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That's a big pot so it won't fit in a dip and pour !
But that is a lot of eggs ?? I mean a LOT !
Guess who has a 5 gallon empty and a huge desire for these fish ???
The pot is mine tonight !
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WOAH
 

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I decided to let the angels do most of the heavy lifting !
I will pull the eggs tomorrow if they are still there ..I think the parents will do better with the eggs and it is easier ..
The discus and angels both still have their eggs this am .
The Bolivian wigglers are moving more and more so hopefully free swimming when I come home this afternoon.
TGIF ! [ it is Friday right ?]..
 
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I pulled the eggs last night and many look bad today ?? Bum deal for sure ..I have seen this before so little hope for them IMO .
I wanted to place a divider in the 60 gallontank and let them keep going but I could not even get it in the tank without all 5 angels going crazy and not being able to tell who is who !
That is how I pulled the wrong pair I am sure ! These fish are not owner friendly and they spook easy or for no real reason ?
Discus eggs are gone so on to the next batch soon maybe ! Santarems are looking over the drain tube closely !
Bolivians are still wiggling but look good so that is a plus ..
I told the dude that mother nature laughs at me ..Maybe laughter can be thought of smiling ?
The pair of silver Dantumns in the 65g with the Bolivian rams have finally caught on !
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^ new eggs today ^
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^ other eggs gone bad ^
Probably should have left them ??
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Tank full of Dark Black rams and golds …
 
Now that's a great Bolivian! Love it!! Dark rams are some of my favourites too.
 
I pulled the eggs last night and many look bad today ?? Bum deal for sure ..I have seen this before so little hope for them IMO .
I wanted to place a divider in the 60 gallontank and let them keep going but I could not even get it in the tank without all 5 angels going crazy and not being able to tell who is who !
That is how I pulled the wrong pair I am sure ! These fish are not owner friendly and they spook easy or for no real reason ?
Discus eggs are gone so on to the next batch soon maybe ! Santarems are looking over the drain tube closely !
Bolivians are still wiggling but look good so that is a plus ..
I told the dude that mother nature laughs at me ..Maybe laughter can be thought of smiling ?
The pair of silver Dantumns in the 65g with the Bolivian rams have finally caught on !
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^ new eggs today ^
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^ other eggs gone bad ^
Probably should have left them ??
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Tank full of Dark Black rams and golds …
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I still want some of those dark black rams!
 

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Now that's a great Bolivian! Love it!! Dark rams are some of my favourites too.
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The Bolivians I got from Joe and my LFS are some of the best Bolivians I have ever seen..The pics of them back in the 5 gallon did not do them justice as I am sure they did not enjoy the 5 gallon as much as the 65g they are in now .
They seem as at home and perfect with the angels as my GBR do with the discus .

I still want some of those dark black rams!
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The Dark blacks are very popular .. My 9/11 F1 pair is now raising their 5,6, maybe tenth spawn ! I am blessed by these two individual fish I raised ..You never know when raising fish which ones are really going to count..That is what makes trying to breed better fish so hard ..Everyone counts until you can qualify them officially when developed ..The F1 and my first golds were the only 7 out of a full spawn to survive ..You just never know ? They are almost 1 year old and easily the most productive blacks I have had yet !
 
Very Nice! Rams Everywhere!
Looky, Looky, Looky I think I see a couple of pairs of the new tank mates for my "Discus" build. Yeah!
Glad the Bolivians are working out for you. Maybe in the future I will give them a go again. But you have the torch now.

Continued Success! Tom
 
My leopoldI acted the same as your dantums. Good luck to you!
 
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My leopoldI acted the same as your dantums. Good luck to you!
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My Leopoldis are kept with male swordtails and still act nuts when I am around also … Funny amidst all the scare d cat angels my albino Dantumns ate from my hand today ??
 
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Well the Bolivian wigglers went to rot overnight ?? No clue what went wrong as this is very uncommon after they have hatched .. Bummed for sure but every cloud has a silver lining??
The BR have laid eggs again in the 65 and the silver Dantumns eggs are still there . Still debating how to handle the angel eggs ..The Bolivians eggs are in a pot that needs to be hatched out before I can get them ?
Got a new spawn from my Gold and Hybrid rams so possibly batch #2 of my red ram line ??
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^ My 2 month old Bolivians ^
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^ New batch of Gold and Hybrids [red rams ]^
 

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You've seen the platinum rams haven't you? They are a gold/electric blue. The gold is the base so it makes them look paler compared to a blue ram base color.

Can you trust the dantums to leave them alone prior to hatching?
 
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You've seen the platinum rams haven't you? They are a gold/electric blue. The gold is the base so it makes them look paler compared to a blue ram base color.

Can you trust the dantums to leave them alone prior to hatching?
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I have seen the gold /ebr called 'pearls' or 'powder blue' most of the time ..Funny but I have not tried them nor have desire for them ..A paler fish is what they are ..Who wants paler fish ? People want flashy fish [you know ]..

I am not sure on these angels ..My experience with my other angels lately is they are not to be trusted .I breathed a huge sigh of relief this morning when I saw them still there !
One pair of the Bolivian rams in tank with them have eggs now also so the tank is hopping now !
I was just looking and thinking of pulling them ! I stole eggs yesterday from my EBR in the discus tank so they would not be the only eggs I have set aside to hatch..
Thinking I should take them to get the ball rolling ..Who knows how many times I will fail with these ! The Albino dantumns laugh at me when I look in their tank !
Thanks for chiming in !
 
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So I pulled the eggs from the silvers in the 65 g ..
I'll bet right now they are going to be no good .If they are then I have no explanation for why they are laying eggs on the heater now in the 65 g !
Yup you guessed just like me ,two girls ...Good news is maybe I didn't kill the other eggs also ?? I have not seen a single wiggler/ fry to indicate fertile pairing ..
So I know I have 2 females in the 65g..I just need to move another in and see how it goes I guess .. I have 7 silvers in total so 5 left . The odds are there is 1 male in there at least ..The Santarems are cleaning the drain tube almost violently ! Not being mean to each other but really take stabs at the tube ...
 
So I pulled the eggs from the silvers in the 65 g ..
I'll bet right now they are going to be no good .If they are then I have no explanation for why they are laying eggs on the heater now in the 65 g !
Yup you guessed just like me ,two girls ...Good news is maybe I didn't kill the other eggs also ?? I have not seen a single wiggler/ fry to indicate fertile pairing ..
So I know I have 2 females in the 65g..I just need to move another in and see how it goes I guess .. I have 7 silvers in total so 5 left . The odds are there is 1 male in there at least ..The Santarems are cleaning the drain tube almost violently ! Not being mean to each other but really take stabs at the tube ...
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Hopefully you don't have my luck with getting males of plecos in reverse, I mean 6/7 were male...
 
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Ok little update for the records .
Got discus wigglers from the blue snake skins so they are a confirmed pair .
The Santarems have laid eggs for a second time since last post ..They are still in the discus dorm tank so they don't stand a good chance and of course laid eggs on drain tube again so I can't remove it ..Going to block it off with slate so I can take next set if they lay there again..As mentioned in the discus gang thread I will bet they are a pair also but since I have not seen a wiggler can't really say
Raising ram fry already to start the season off early ..Got probably too many already [don't be fooled I have small tanks for more fry ] but also just got a Christmas gift from my buddy in HawaiI ! Yea for Christmas in September ..
What did Tom send me ?? 6 long fin gold rams from his breeding ! They are still small and maybe 4 months old but their fins are nice and flowing even at this small size ..
So hopefully I will have long fin rams [who knows what color I may make ] after this season ..
 
Ok little update for the records .
Got discus wigglers from the blue snake skins so they are a confirmed pair .
The Santarems have laid eggs for a second time since last post ..They are still in the discus dorm tank so they don't stand a good chance and of course laid eggs on drain tube again so I can't remove it ..Going to block it off with slate so I can take next set if they lay there again..As mentioned in the discus gang thread I will bet they are a pair also but since I have not seen a wiggler can't really say
Raising ram fry already to start the season off early ..Got probably too many already [don't be fooled I have small tanks for more fry ] but also just got a Christmas gift from my buddy in HawaiI ! Yea for Christmas in September ..
What did Tom send me ?? 6 long fin gold rams from his breeding ! They are still small and maybe 4 months old but their fins are nice and flowing even at this small size ..
So hopefully I will have long fin rams [who knows what color I may make ] after this season ..
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Long finned rams! Exciting! Discus wrigglers?! In your fish room?! Sounds like you have your work cut out for you Mr.Bandit! Congratulations! Now to just maintain them... eeeek! I wish you the best of luck! Photos of all when possible!
 
Congrats! on the new acquisition and the wigglers. My pair ate the eggs again. I may just have to pull a coralbandit on the eggs next time. LOL and see if I get wigglers.
Long fin gold rams Just looked them up, Wow!
I want some!
 
ahhhhh, if I were only younger. I would jump right on the band wagon when you offer the long finned rams up for sale. It would mean setting up another tank for them and sadly I already have all I can handle. I guess I will have to live vicariously through y'all
 
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So worked again today..1 day week ends are getting old but look to have no end , they pay me well so what the heck ? .
The discus wigglers are still wiggling or free swimming? You would think I would know the difference but since discus fry stick to parents which these guys lack ,them sticking to side of dip and pour counts as free swimming I think ??? I think they are eating so today removed air stone and added cycled little sponge from 60 gallondiscus tank ..Don't mistake this for full fledged false hope but I know what proper protocol is so ??
We will see about pics or video tomorrow but if weather allows Mrs bandit and I need to go for ride to view some of the peak fall foliage .. Water changes and several fry tanks mean time is short but also times are good !
Hope everyone is having a great week end .
 
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So I know I am a slacker ,no pics or vids ..Worked again today but came home to eggs from the long fin gold rams Tom in HawaiI sent me !
If they are still there I may pull them tomorrow .It is a small set of small eggs as the fish are young but a good sign for sure ..
Discus wigglers from prior post did not make it .
Discus [the blue snakeskins] are on day 2 or 3 with eggs again .I have shut down the 2 HOBs and left the sponges going .They laid on the pot so taking them is not an option or my liking right now ..
Gold rams are still in with the disc in 65g but may get moved tomorrow ?? Got lots of fish to move around in a little time ..
Aquatic Experience next weekend ..Hope peoples make it out ...I have not heard back from my #1 LFS so not sure if my rams will be there or not now ?
 

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Had a rain day and got to this before packing 11 boxes today .. I LOVE the rain ..I am just a watery type of guy ? Roofer ,fish keeper , Aquarius ???
The discus eggs turned to wigglers yesterday which I think is not correct name as they seemed to be stickers sticking to the pot while wiggling.I should do some discus research maybe ??
Now whether the parents ate them or the rams or they are hidden I don't know ? Pretty sure they are not hidden and really don't think rams got them but I will separate them soon ..
Eitherway they have been decreasing quickly..
Trying to re organize the fish room a little since breeding season is starting !!!
 
Some awesome fish in there, and all those black and gold rams look great together, almost like a feature tank.
Dig the baseball trick
 
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Some awesome fish in there, and all those black and gold rams look great together, almost like a feature tank.
Dig the baseball trick
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Thanks man !They come from same fish but really do look good and contrasting together !

Using the Ehiem skimmer is a KILLER trick ! Take the sponge out if you have one eitherway and it will work much better !
I have mentioned it before but once you see it hard not understand how it gets the fishes attention ..I thought my huge albino dantumns were not eating or eating as much as they could but now with the skimmer pitching them worms they are fat !
The discus especially my Stendker Tefe loves to get his worms this way !
I now feed 6 tanks through skimmer along with sticking worms to glass!
 
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I like the Eheim 350 skimmer


Your pairs are in there !
 
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pdurkinuk
Finally I may have eggs in my 60 gallonfrom a male and female dantunm !
Can't be sure yet but in tank full of females I may have 1 silver male
 
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Video of the latest action in fish room..

Keeping busy moving fish around !
 
Looking Good.
When I was raising Bolivians, the only tank mates with the pair were Cories and a BN pleco, usually end up with around 50 fry that would make it to 4-5 months then off to the LFSs and auctions. The 5 pairs of "Rams" you sent me are all doing well.
I did add the "Darks" to the 55 gallon with the "Discus" and "Golds". Thought they would fit right in but the "Golds" started their relentless chasing of the "Darks" again. So the "Golds" were moved to the 29 gallon with the breeding pair of "Discus". They lay eggs just about every 10 days, but ... they still eat them. Ugh!
 
Can’t wait to see what you get with the long fins! Always something exciting in your fish room! Those swords look great as well!
 
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Thanks guys !
Joe my buddy Tom in HawaiI said my golds kill the blacks he got from another ! Meanest rams he has seen ??
I am lost and feel bad for the fishes disposition .They are hit and miss...
Tom [from Hawaii] is sending me some other ram crosses and long fin swordtails scheduled to arrive Weds..
Psyched to be swapping fish with Tom..The Guarantee for express shipping makes 50% of the shipments to him FREE ! It's a gamble but one I like !
If they are on time WIN , if they are a day late FREE , WIN ..
He said the longfin rams will raise multiple spawns all together !
Pretty cool to have such good friends to share and be shared with ! I am lucky as far as fish go ..
He said he has also cornered the market on EBA for the whole island with the pair I sent him !
He like a few others have gotten the best fish I have ever had ..It is too cool to be able to stay n touch with those that share my particular fish taste over an extended period of time .I have sent fish to Tom for years now but yesterday for the first time we spoke ! We talked so long he went from one side of the island to the other [delivering koi]..
Fish are more then just a hobby for me ..I may have more people in my life through fish [that I like ] then any other facet of my life ..I don't fake it in social settings well so common bonds really help people with me ..
 

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That's Great you found a compadre in Hawaii, 2 "Toms" of the same mind.
I feel the same finding you and a few others here on the forum and a breeder in Erie,Pa.
Matter of fact, you can add NE Ohio, NW Pa and SE Michigan to your list of your EBA offspring in the market. I just moved the EBA pair back together again Sunday afternoon and of course eggs Monday nite. So, I am sure will have another batch ready for the Auctions come springtime.
Thanks, for sharing the info on the "Golds" its good to know. Yep, they were fine with the Discus, Bolivians, SterbaI Cory and even the EBA juveniles (they would square off but the EBA were not intimidated). But within a few hours of adding the "Darks" they would search them out. Oh, well. Fish will be Fish.
Now that the Rams have settled in their colors are "Stunning". Have to get some pics to share.
"Thanks" again Tom.
 
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Today needs to noted in my ram history ...
I have received from my buddy Tom in HawaiI a pair of long fin GBR and a fantastic male long fin to expand my ram portfolio . 3 Long fins ~!
Normally I would say things like with hope and prayers but his long fin golds are raising fry already for me so ...OH YEA !
Along with those he sent me a trio of long fin tuxedo swordtails !! Sometimes it is scary how two people so far apart think so much the same !
In defense of Tom he is probably smarter ,but to the point there are several if not many versions of tuxedo swordtails and I ironically was looking at ' Hawaiian ' tuxedo swords on aquabid from a 'fish farm ' seller just recently...The swords he sent rock so much more then what caught my eye ..
Not sure you all know what long fin swordtails look like but holy holy ..Check out Miami swords which I will link at end of this post ..
I will get some pics up soon and grateful for day early USPS delivery and of course Tom.
100% alive back to me in same box I sent him !
I am making my list of fish going back to him this week..
He is down to 1 female albino swords so a few of them are in store and maybe some special rams.
I know some of you are saying swordtails?? I kept them when I was a kid .. SO DID I !!!They make me feel like a kid and checkout what some go for ….NICE FISH..
https://miamiswordtails.weebly.com/
 
Today needs to noted in my ram history ...
I have received from my buddy Tom in HawaiI a pair of long fin GBR and a fantastic male long fin to expand my ram portfolio . 3 Long fins ~!
Normally I would say things like with hope and prayers but his long fin golds are raising fry already for me so ...OH YEA !
Along with those he sent me a trio of long fin tuxedo swordtails !! Sometimes it is scary how two people so far apart think so much the same !
In defense of Tom he is probably smarter ,but to the point there are several if not many versions of tuxedo swordtails and I ironically was looking at ' Hawaiian ' tuxedo swords on aquabid from a 'fish farm ' seller just recently...The swords he sent rock so much more then what caught my eye ..
Not sure you all know what long fin swordtails look like but holy holy ..Check out Miami swords which I will link at end of this post ..
I will get some pics up soon and grateful for day early USPS delivery and of course Tom.
100% alive back to me in same box I sent him !
I am making my list of fish going back to him this week..
He is down to 1 female albino swords so a few of them are in store and maybe some special rams.
I know some of you are saying swordtails?? I kept them when I was a kid .. SO DID I !!!They make me feel like a kid and checkout what some go for ….NICE FISH..
https://miamiswordtails.weebly.com/
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Those are beautiful!!!!!! So exciting! Can’t wait to see your next video update! Definitely looks like you have found another of yourself in Hawaii! Amazing to know two people on opposite sides of the planet can have so much in common! I bet his fish room looks wild as well! Also, long fins! Caring for fry! Already! Wow! I sense that this is going to be one for the books as well!
 
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Ok I am a slacker when it comes to posting my own updates ..Too much has happened..Good and bad ..
The bad first ..It is two fold ..My stupidity and bad luck or nature ..
First worked evenings / nights for a bit and must have been in space the next day after working till 1 am and going back to work at 11 am and left my water running in the fish room ..More specifically the 60 gallonwith my silver Dantumns ..Flooded the fish room [running water for 3-4 hours] and killed 5 silvers and one albino , about $400 worth of angels that never spawned for me … Mrs bandit is not thrilled with me flooding the basement again either !Yea I said again ! Years ago I had a thread called " I Spill Water Everyday " and I still do ! Next comes the wind storm ,power failure and back up generator failure ...Nice week ! Got another generator and still hate the world ! Lost 2 maybe 3 of my pipe fish in power outage and generator failure along with my 5+ year old sebae mono that was all of 8 inches tall and an older Roseline from my 180.. Not the worst on losses by numbers but as far as replaceable fish I got burned hard IMO.. Not new to living in NY ...All in all the fish room held up great to over 24 hours without power and then only having sponge filters back on when replacement generator got running [only 5000w] for the next 24 hours .
I now know you can hate something/someone but appreciate the service they provide ..National Grid sucks wind like Verizon but try to live without them ..ead:
So enough rage ..Got discus wigglers just waiting to attach to parents ! This could be the spawn ? Ah they do what they want !
On losing the angels and just trying to get the fish room organized the loss creates an open door ..
Spent what I lost in angels on new swordtails ! Have new Cauliflower and Sabre tail cauliflower swords from Mexico, MO and Los Angeles CA.
Waiting on a trio of long fin ruby reds to breed and add to my alpha line ..LONG FINNED ALPHAS anyone ??
Got a couple long fins going here and feel a theme ??
So when all the bad is added up and the good figured in I am still feeling very lucky..
I lost some special fish ,but was lucky to even keep some of them I think ..
I just got some very special fish I think [time will tell] and am like a child excited !
Swordtails seem so plain to some but I manage to find ones that offer a breeding challenge greater then rams for me and many others !
Word on the cauliflowers is I did it again..They are a very difficult fish to breed from all my sources and several said they had TRIED ..
I linked pics of the cauliflowers in Some Of The Fish I Breed In My Fish Room - Freshwater Fish and Tank Photos 351610
They are all of that !
Hope you have a rocking weekend !
Change your water ..just remember to shut it off if you run a hose like me !
 
I just felt like you needed a hug after a week like this one. Hopefully you will get to enjoy your weekend.

Guess you are gonna have to design some kind of float that will automatically shut off the water when the tank is full to keep Mrs. Bandit from skinnin' you alive should it happen again
 
Wow sorry to hear this. Sorry you lost the angels. Exact same scenario happened to me years ago. Back and forth from days to nights. I cleaned out a 125 turtle tank at about 7am. Forgot about it passed out and didn’t realize till just before I left for the night shift. 12” of water in a 20’x20’ room .

Don’t know if they even make something to shut off the water from a hose or sink that way. Could be done.

Well I hope the wigglers work out!
 
The "Trials" of keeping fish. "Kudos" to you for sharing your mistake. Not many people have the courage or character to do so. Hang in their "Buddy".
" I Spill Water Everyday " and I still do !
And I thought I was the only one.
It is almost a weekly event for me to overflow a tank, in fact on Weds. during water changes. I was standing right there at the tank waiting for it to fill I got distracted, looking at another tank. And you guessed it the old familiar waterfall sound. Duh!
Congrats! on the wigglers.
 
Basement floods are a bad deal!! Sorry for the losses! My the rest of the winter be calm
 
I can’t for the life of me remember what YouTube video it was, but the YouTuber had a system where he had a alarm rig which would go off when the water touched it, so he would attach it to the tank with the water change. Maybe a google search can help you there
 
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I have flooded before and may again ! I prefer to do it in the winter when my heat helps dry things out as opposed to humid summertime [yea did that too]..
I don't gamble with money and most my bad habits are too much fun to quit so we will let it roll without any further safeguards !
Call it my 'wild side' !
Picture of the Mid State NY Dwarf Cichlid itself here ;
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And a picture of another cichlid ..Discus in background of their wigglers hanging on the HOB tube still..
The parents are literally waiting under it to catch them !
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And crappy pics but a couple I took of the Leopoldis
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Got wigglers from my EBR/GBR hybrids today and eggs from Toms long fin GBR ,also Black /EBR and I am pretty sure a new pair of dark blacks will lay today ..
Received my 6 cauliflower sabre tail swordtails and they are outstanding ! I look forward to breeding these or trying like heck !
I have an extra female cauliflower and 3 long fin ruby reds[1 m/2f] due to arrive on Tuesday ...
 

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Such a slacker posting .
Gave you a shout out TommyD11730 !
I am hatching rams man!
 
I am hatching rams man
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Congrats!
Nice! Nothing much sweeter than seeing the swarm/cloud of swimmers. Now if our "Discus" would get it together and just stop eating the eggs. LOL
 
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Congrats!
Nice! Nothing much sweeter than seeing the swarm/cloud of swimmers. Now if our "Discus" would get it together and just stop eating the eggs. LOL
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I am having such good luck with pairs raising fry I haven't had to hatch eggs this season but 2 times yet !
The other batch [ long fin rams ] is starting to free swim this morning. Both were eggs laid in a tank where the parents are already raising fry.
I even managed to get a pair of the Bolivians and their wigglers into a 10 gallon ! Small little cloud now .

I am scheming for the discus ….
 
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24 hours later with those fry and a quick [maybe blurry at times ] spin through ..
 
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Why not a day 3 ?
Got 26 inches of snow so ...
They got moved from the dip and pour to the 1.87g betta tanks that have not had fish in them since Spring maybe winter ..
I do keep topping tanks off an doing occasional changes ,but never shut a tank down unless it is leaving the room ..
They clean up fine and have leg up on new IMO ..
What do I know ?
 
LOL, love it! Indeed if that's all from 1 clutch I'm really impressed!! You know come warmer weather I'll be beating down your door for a pair of long fins.

I know I have one of those tiny sponge filters.... same one. Pretty sure I model it to add other media inside it and a airstone. Doesn't look like the sponge come off 2 easy on mine now... wonder if I glued something together? Might have to revisit it!

Nice job on the fry once again.
 
coralbandit the kribs came and are alive, I currently have then aclimating. Thank you so much!
 

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