29 Gallon Tank My baby Super Red BN has a spot on her head?

[Kathylee]

Oh, I am currently at the end of dosing my 29g tank with API Furan-2 & Kanaplex. Today was my last day. But in the middle of treating this tank the pleco developed a couple clear cyst looking spots on her head behind her right eye. Two days later & its now white, any thoughts on what this is?


This is how it looked when I first noticed it; like clear spots:


I've been battling disease since January in this tank. Earlier this week an Otto passed from a white spot on his head- 24 hours after later fungus covered most his body.
I had to euthanize a cory today, he was so thin that his head looked very large & I could see right through him.

We treated for gram positive bacteria with Maracyn with no luck now im trying gram negative, when im all done treatment I have a UV sterilizer in my cabinet I'm gonna attach. I added new fish in February, and have lost so far: 6 ottos & 3 cories since.
The pleco thus far as not had any symptoms until now, it almost looks like how a pimple would in humans.

 

[Broggy]

cute little catfish.

does it look fuzzy? I hope to be helpful, but im not too good with diseases.

 

[Kathylee]

cute little catfish.

does it look fuzzy? I hope to be helpful, but im not too good with diseases.

Not yet! But same thing happened with my Otto earlier this week, he had a big bump, it healed over, like 45 days later I noticed it looked odd, made a post on Fishlore about it, thought it was a scar, then the next morning he was COVERED in fungus. I'm so upset, she is my favorite & I don't want to lose her!

 

[Broggy]

Not yet! But same thing happened with my Otto earlier this week, he had a big bump, it healed over, like 45 days later I noticed it looked odd, made a post on Fishlore about it, thought it was a scar, then the next morning he was COVERED in fungus. I'm so upset, she is my favorite & I don't want to lose her!

I remember that post. again, in not too hot on the subject of meds and sickness, my usual diagnosing is collumnaris, but I don't know about this. hope you get some help.

 

[Kathylee]

I remember that post. again, in not too hot on the subject of meds and sickness, my usual diagnosing is collumnaris, but I don't know about this. hope you get some help.

Thanks, I've been all over the place with symptoms. First couple of deaths seemed to be for no apparent reason. Then bacterial infections with fungally tufts then cories dying of fungus & red spots that spread to ottos.
I thought bacterial Septicemia, red spot disease, fungal, Mycobacteriosis, but I can't pinpoint it. I've Privately talked to others on here as well, and have had 3 different posts. One by one they just keep succumbing. No matter the effort I put in sadly.

I even contacted the hatchery who sold the fish to me a few days ago, they said they would contact their "corydoras expert," then sent me an E-Mail saying it was Red Blotch disease & if the fish who had it died already, then I would be okay because it isn't contagious..
BUT whatever they have IS indeed contagious so it must not be that, because it's already wiped out quite a few fish.

 

[Broggy]

what meds have you tried?

 

[Kathylee]

what meds have you tried?

-So in February, members suggested I up my WC to 50% every few days, and add Indian Almond Leaves.
-Then in March I ran a course of Maracyn through, did not seem to help at all. So I just continued WC. Researched & realized it was for Gram positive bacteria.

-I thought maybe my sand was too coarse, and kept giving the cories fin infections, so I removed it & purchased Caribsea super naturals PH neutral sand for Freshwater.

- wanted to use meds as a last resort, was still losing fish.

This week I dosed API FURAN-2 supposed to help with Gram Negotive bacteria. Also adding Kanaplex, and soaking their food in it before adding.. It has helped the cories fins look better thankfully!!! But now I have different symptoms on Pleco!

 

[Kathylee]

My API Furan 2 course is all done. Today is last day of kanaplex. The cories are 100% all cleared up. My 1 last remaining Otto had fungus on his snout & red spots on mouth. Red is gone completely & fungus is almost gone
Still a spot on pleco though.
It almost looks like some type of growth.

 

[Broggy]

My API Furan 2 course is all done. Today is last day of kanaplex. The cories are 100% all cleared up. My 1 last remaining Otto had fungus on his snout & red spots on mouth. Red is gone completely & fungus is almost gone
Still a spot on pleco though.
It almost looks like some type of growth.

thats good, so you think the Corys ottos and pleco have the same symptoms?

 

[Kathylee]

thats good, so you think the Corys ottos and pleco have the same symptoms?

No hers is weird, it's like a bump of some sort. I'm at work on break, once I'm home, I'll jump back online & try do research. Maybe find someone on here & message them. My other chocolate BN I've had for 1 year (diff tank) & she's never been sick or had any symptoms so I don't have a clue what's on her.

 

[Broggy]

look up fish tuberculosis, a rarer disease im pretty sure.

some signs are secondary infections such as the fungus your Otto had, and other things making diagnosis unclear. did they have bent backs?

 

[Kathylee]

look up fish tuberculosis, a rarer disease im pretty sure.

some signs are secondary infections such as the fungus your Otto had, and other things making diagnosis unclear. did they have bent backs?

I Actually did a whole bunch of reading on the Mycobacteriosis (Fish TB) I read the whole 15 page article by D.Walstead. One Cory ( who I euthanized yesterday) he looked so bad. His head looked larger than body, very skinny, could see right through him... He never had any red spots or fungus, but the others who died did.
This all started in January.. Purchased Fish online, QT them for 30 days, then after adding to the 29g they just started getting sick one by one. I ordered 8 fish! All that is left is 1 pleco & 1 Cory. Plus its wiped out all my older ottos.
I hope it's not fish TB
I've heard nightmares about that.
I think I have read that cysts or nodules can form on fish infected..
None of them had crooked spines.
But that one Cory looked really bad.

EDIT: this was the Cory I put to sleep:

 

[Kathylee]

Anyone else have any idea what could be on her? This is photos from today. I finished treatment & did a WC last night:



Her underside seems to look okay

 

[Kathylee]

Another update; I keep updating this with Hope's someone will stumble across it & have some info. She's eating & behaving fine. The bump has enlarged but is no longer a bump, it's now a flat round-ish spot.


I did another WC
Starting to wonder if I should do one more round of Kanaplex? I have read that it's hard on kidneys so didn't want to use meds again. Was hoping clean water would help.

 

[Kathylee]

Well it's been about 1 month since I started this thread, I added driftwood to the tank, so now I NEVER see my pleco anymore. Every time I walk up to the tank she quickly scurries off to hide underneath it upside Down. I saw her today for a minute & it now looks like it has escalated to being a hole in her head.
I can't get a photo because like I said she's hiding UPSIDE Down, the area I need to see & photo is hidden. As far as I know the only illnesses/disease I've had in THIS tank were fuzzy/fungal & the API Furan- & kanaplex combo wiped it from all the cories. So I'm not sure what is going on with her.
Is it a parasite?
Is it a Bacterial infection?
An infected scrape?
Can anyone help please?

 

[Kathylee]

Doing WC today, trying to get a photo of her/his head

 

[Kathylee]

URGENT: looks bad guys, I don't know what it is or how to treat it
Im calling an SOS here

 

[Broggy]

this looks so much like one of my corydoras had. first there was an infection of some sort, and then a chunk of missing flesh! I didn't know what to do about it, and it died

 

[Kathylee]

this looks so much like one of my corydoras had. first there was an infection of some sort, and then a chunk of missing flesh! I didn't know what to do about it, and it died

Oh no! How long did your fish survive?
Well some days it looks better then other days it looks worse. Where I have already ran 3 different medications through, I really don't want to add anymore.
I added driftwood & the water stays pretty dark with tannins, which I was hoping would help. I've been keeping it clean with WC. All the other fish are clean of fungus.
I talked to a few members in messages & one said to try to just stay away from anymore antibiotics, & maybe try melafix as an antibacterial.

 

[Broggy]

it survived about a week after I noticed it. but it probably had it a lot longer than a week.