Is this fin rot? My shubunkin might have it

[Cr7realmadrid]

Is this fin rot? If so what’s the best way to treat this or if not what could it be any help would be thankful he won’t eat and usually he’s the first to go after the food

 

[Bwood22]

Fin rot is a clear indicator that something else is going on. He's not eating, that also means something else is going on.

Please fill out the emergency template so we can get a handle on what's probably happening.

 

[jtjgg]

yes, its fin rot. test your water parameters, then do a 50% water change, and test the water parameters again.

please fill out the emergency template we'll need more info on why he has fin rot and why he's not eating.

 

[Cr7realmadrid]

Fin rot is a clear indicator that something else is going on. He's not eating, that also means something else is going on.

Please fill out the emergency template so we can get a handle on what's probably happening.

Trying to fill it out I had to buy more test strips I ran out

Fin rot is a clear indicator that something else is going on. He's not eating, that also means something else is going on.

Please fill out the emergency template so we can get a handle on what's probably happening.

Trying to fill it out I had to buy more test strips I ran out waiting for after work to do the tests
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What is the water volume of the tank? 125 gallons

How long has the tank been running? 2 years

Does it have a filter? Canister filter

Does it have a heater? 3 of them

What is the water temperature? 78

What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)

4 shubunkins, 4 koi fish, a common plecco (8inches), 2 bristlenose, and 4 cory.

Maintenance

How often do you change the water? Once a month

How much of the water do you change? 40%

What do you use to treat your water? Water conditioner

Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both



*Parameters - Very Important

Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes

What do you use to test the water? The test strips

What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0

Nitrite: .5

Nitrate: 160-200 (too high)

pH:8.4



Feeding

How often do you feed your fish? Every other day

How much do you feed your fish? 2 pinches of food and the plecos get either greenbeans, cucumber, zucchini, shrimp pellets, blood worm

What brand of food do you feed your fish? Tetra

Do you feed frozen? Sometimes

Do you feed freeze-dried foods? Yes



Illness & Symptoms

How long have you had this fish? 2 years

How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? Today

In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Won’t eat is showing signs of fin rot

Have you started any treatment for the illness? No

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? No

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Just fins looking bad



Explain your emergency situation in detail.

(Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)

First his fins started looking battered but I thought that was just the fish kinda nipping at each other but then it kept getting worse and worse until finally it started to look like fin rot. I’m already going to do a water change and clean out the filter tomorrow to correct the nitrate and nitrite levels and add some water cleaner in it. I got microbe lift natural expellant for bacterial diseases and I’m adding that then in 10 days I’m going to be doing another water change. And continue to add the stuff until the fin starts healing. But I did multiple ammonia tests and they all came back with no ammonia so I think I just need to do a water change and correct the nitrite and nitrate numbers not sure how they got so high

 

[jtjgg]

don't use water cleaner, chemicals are usually not necessary except for dechlorinator.

you'll need to do weekly water changes. your fish probably have long term nitrate poisoning, so you'll need to slowly reduce the nitrate levels. start with weekly 33% water changes for a couple of weeks. then do weekly 50% water changes for several weeks. then weekly 75% water changes.

i have 4 comets (two are 12-13in long, two are 8-9in long) in a 75g tank with a 29g sump tank, approx 90g of water, and i do weekly 75-80% water changes to keep the nitrate level below 20ppm.

how small are the koi? four adult koi are going to need atleast a 300g pond. common pleco get big too, its going to need about 50g by itself. they're also know to suck on goldfish/koi slime at night (even the bristlenose plecos), which can cause injury and infections.

 

[Cr7realmadrid]

don't use water cleaner, chemicals are usually not necessary except for dechlorinator.

you'll need to do weekly water changes. your fish probably have long term nitrate poisoning, so you'll need to slowly reduce the nitrate levels. start with weekly 33% water changes for a couple of weeks. then do weekly 50% water changes for several weeks. then weekly 75% water changes.

i have 4 comets (two are 12-13in long, two are 8-9in long) in a 75g tank with a 29g sump tank, approx 90g of water, and i do weekly 75-80% water changes to keep the nitrate level below 20ppm.

how small are the koi? four adult koi are going to need atleast a 300g pond. common pleco get big too, its going to need about 50g by itself. they're also know to suck on goldfish/koi slime at night (even the bristlenose plecos), which can cause injury and infections.

The koi are small I’m growing then out a bit to eventually throw in a pond. And the common pleco has never messed with the goldfish or koi he’s been around them since I first got my fish so I haven’t seen him doing anything but I did a water change earlier and I’ll keep doing them weekly thank you for the advice

 

[qldmick]

Nice shubunkin.
That angel ever been aggressive towards your goldfish?