Help sexing German blue rams

[fish 321]

Got these two little guys today and am trying to figure out genders. What do you guys think?

 

[GlennO]

The second one is almost certainly a female. First pic I'm not so sure, the fins are very tattered, but it looks more like a male to me.

 

[fish 321]

The second one is almost certainly a female. First pic I'm not so sure, the fins are very tattered, but it looks more like a male to me.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. The first ones ventral fins each the analfin. Is that a trait of a male?

 

[GlennO]

Ventral fin filaments are usually longer in males, as are first few dorsal spines. The lack of spangles within the black spot is another indicator. However I find the easiest indictor when you have a few to choose from is the body shape. Males are noticeably longer in shape. Females are stockier and rounder. Your female is also showing signs of a rosy belly.

 

[fish 321]

Ventral fin filaments are usually longer in males, as are first few dorsal spines. The lack of spangles within the black spot is another indicator. However I find the easiest indictor when you have a few to choose from is the body shape. Males are noticeably longer in shape. Females are stockier and rounder. Your female is also showing signs of a rosy belly.

That’s how I chose these I tried to get two that bodies looked different from each other