1. I'm using Omega One.
2. Yes
3. 68-69 degrees
4. The Goldfish are about 3 inches
5. I water change every two weeks.
6. 15 %
7. Haven't checked in a while, I know for sure that nitrites and ammonia are 0
8. A few weeks.
I do put the pellets there. When the pellets hit the ground, the fish doesn't eat it.you could put the pellets where the water exits your filter, it'll help push the pellets down.
15% every 2 weeks is not enough. you need to do atleast 50% weekly. I do 70-75% weekly.
The problem is it spits it out.
I do put the pellets there. When the pellets hit the ground, the fish doesn't eat it.
Thankks for your help, she died today, or more correctly, I euthanized her today, there was no chance she'd recoverA couple issues that could be causing it, it could be any of these
#1: Your tank is cycling which is VERY stressful on fish. Any amount of ammonia and nitrites can be devastating to fish.
#2: Your pH is really acidic for goldies. Usually pH 6 is the lowest you want it to be.
#3: Tank is much too small for a goldfish of any kind, especially a 3" long one.
#4: The water is pretty warm for goldies, usually about 75 degrees is about the highest you want it to be.
It really could be any one of the items I listed above or a combination of them. I would try to address as many of the issues as possible and maybe look into some frozen foods to entice him into eating
Does he eat food and spit it out or is he just not interested in it?
Is there any bottom sitting, lethargy, heavy breathing etc?
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Hi Fawkes, he is not interested in it.
Its odd because he’ll follow me from side to side when I’m around the tank, which was his usual behavior around feeding time. Yet, I’ll pour the pellets right in front of him and he’ll just leave insead of eat.
He’s isn’t acting different than his typical behavior around the tank. No heavy breathing or bottom sitting. The only thing I’ve noticed physically is that since monday, his veins are more visible in the pectoral and tail fin. I can’t get it to pick up on camera, unfortunately. He’s pretty active it’s hard to get a good pic.
when i upgraded tanks, i moved most of the old tank water and topped off with new water, its the same as doing a large water change.
i would suggest doing weekly water changes. its more than just removing nitrates. there's also phosphates, heavy metals, dissolved organic compounds, etc. also replenishes trace minerals in the water.
fast for 3-4 days.
is he pooping? if not, try feeding blanched peas/broccoli.
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Hi jtjgg, thanks for your response. I fasted him all of Tuesday and Wednesday until late evening. I offered him food then, but he didn’t want it. I removed it and decided not to feed for another day. Yesterday, friday morning I tried again to feed him. He didn’t come to eat, but I left home for 2-3 hours and when I got back all the food was gone.
I offered the second feeding that evening and he wasn’t interested. I left it until this morning and it’s debatable if he ate anything. But, I did find fish poop with food in it this morning.
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Have you tried other kinds of foods?
Also do you use a conditioner when you do water changes? The streaking could indicate some irritant in the water
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Hi Fawkes, I have tried some other foods. At first I thought he was getting tired of the pellets so I went to the store and bought a variety of different flakes (unfortunately they didn’t carry any pellet options) i would soak the flakes for a couple seconds before feeding so it sunk like his old food. The only one he seemed to like was the bug bites, but it can still be hit or miss. I ordered more pellets and bloodworms online to try, they should be here any day. I’ve also tried peas, brine shrimp, and lettuce.
I have never conditioned his water in the 4 years I’ve had him. I “rescued” him from one of my neighbors who had him as bug control in her horse’s water trough. She was going to leave him freeze over the winter, so I took him. All these years I’ve just been replicating the well water environment he had in the trough. At the time, I was worried changing it too much might have done harm to him.
I did pick up prime conditioner from the pet store when i was there. How would I go about adding that to his tank? Do i put the full amount needed into a small bucketed portion of water and pour it in? Or do i add to the tank directly?
You can add prime directly to the tank or add it to your bucket of new water during water changes
The good thing with prime is that you can dose daily and it's very difficult to overdose it and you can use 5x recommended dose if dealing with emergency nitrite/ammonia spikes
It'll bind any ammonia and nitrites for up to 48hrs so it's good to use for dealing with any suspected spikes
Might be a good idea to dose prime directly in your tank every day for the next few days to see if that helps
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Okay, I will give that a try and see if it helps. This is my tank’s parameters yesterday before prime.
I can’t decide if the ammonia is closer to 0 or .25ppm. Does anything look really off with this test?
My first thought was that its something involving the water because he went though a bout of this in May. He was disinterested in food for a week, then started eating normally again for two weeks. Now he’s back to being disinterested.
Unfortunately my blood worms haven’t arrived yet. The mail service says the package will be here Monday or Tuesday. I did get him to eat pellets on Friday, and finally found some fish poop with food in it. At least thats a good thing. However, he hasn’t been interested since then.
The red lines in his fins are pretty much gone at this point. But since last night, I’ve noticed he’ll stop swimming and clamp his dorsal and pelvic fin. Then after a few minutes, they go back up and he starts swimming around. I attached a picture of the clamping, and then him swimming around. The first two photos were taken just a minute apart.
When he’s clamped, he breathes very slow and minimal. It’s kind of like he zones out. Then he’ll “jump” out of it, like if you woke a person up from sleeping. He seems to do it more when there’s less activity in the room. If I hang around the tank he’ll swim to me.
The wells where I’m at are private, so each home has their own personal water source. Its a small machine on the property, about 600-800 feet in the ground, that pulls up water and sends it to a system in your house. Chemicals that are applied on the ground can seep through to the water and it also tends to have a lot of minerals.
He looks pretty big and healthy to me!
I've seen some of my fish rest in my tank, they stay still and sometimes clamp their fins but snap out of it and start begging when they see me
Have the bloodworms arrived?
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Thanks, he is a big fish; about 8 inches not including his tail. He hasn’t done any clamping that I’ve seen since Tuesday, even when resting.
I did get the blood worms. I fed him some last night and he wouldn’t eat in front of me. I came back after a little while and they were mostly gone, so I can assume he did eat some.
I have seen some poop, I’ll attach photos. The first one, I don’t think has any food in it. The second two have food, but are a little stringy.
I may try some kale and see if he likes that.
Have you tried Garlic guard by seachem or soaking food in garlic? It's an appetite stimulant
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I’ve heard that garlic can make them very interested in eating. I haven’t tried it though. He actually started to eat more regularly on Sunday. He ate both feeding. I’ve noticed he can be a little hesitant on the morning feeding, but if I leave the food in the tank, he will eat it after about an hour. In the evening, he’s been going right for the food when I drop it in.
I have however, noticed that even when he eats, he still seems to have stringy white poop. I attached a picture of the one I saw this morning. It’s the same poop just from two different angles (lol)... Could this be an internal disease?
Well that's good that he is at least eating something
I sometimes see stool like this with my fish and by itself I don't think it's a sign of anything serious, it's usually when they haven't eaten in while
Here's a good article about it
Stringy White Fish Poop - Aquatic Veterinary Services
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Okay, thats good then! Thanks for the article too. He’s been eating both feedings since Sunday, and the poop I saw earlier today looked a lot more normal.
I asked about this in another online group, and people were saying my cycle doesn’t look right because the nitrates are too low. (Along with other various “diagnosing”) I’m going to get seachem stability and add that along with keeping up frequent checks on the parameters. Hopefully, this will keep him happy and willing to eat!
Uhh ich-x and others you can search em upThankyou for the reply force, can you recommend any specific treatment as I’m not sure that the treatment given will help or will it ? The treatment given was Interpet Anti White Spot
Thankyou for the reply, Unfortunately i have tried the seachem Garlic guard which arrived today soaked in peas and still not interested just not even attracted to the smell its now been 10 days since they haven't eating anything, I can only assume now that whatever they have its making them more weak & more lethargic, Swimming about as usual but no attempt at garlic soaked foodYep, if you can prefer garlic-soaked flakes or peas, or even pieces of bite-size garlic they will at least check it out.
If you have some tweezers maybe hold a piece of spinach, lettuce etc. soaked in garlic directly in front of them? Make sure to sterilise the tweezers first.Thankyou for the reply, Unfortunately i have tried the seachem Garlic guard which arrived today soaked in peas and still not interested just not even attracted to the smell its now been 10 days since they haven't eating anything, I can only assume now that whatever they have its making them more weak & more lethargic, Swimming about as usual but no attempt at garlic soaked foodcan you recommend anything else ?