Diy pellets

[Mindelo]

hello folks
i have been feeding my fishes with roe, but i would like to make a more complete food
i would like to add vegetables and garlic, i understand the process (basically mix it all together)
my question is: what should i use to keep the food consistent? (the same way as a pellet)

note: with the roe, once it enters the water is like dust in the wind

 

[LanternFish]

What do you mean by keeping the food consistent? Do you mean like- not running out of them? Also what type of fish you have? (sorry for so many questions lol, I just wanna fully understand your question)

 

[StarGirl]

I know most homemade food has unflavored gelatin to bind it. It would be more like a cube though.

If food is blowing all over try turning the filter down or off. Just remember to turn it back on....

 

[JustAFishServant]

Great idea! I've actually been making DIY fish food for years, and it always works! It is gel, though, so not the same process, but the same ingredients

•Sweet bell pepper, carrots, and paprika are natural color-enhancers. Garlic is great for the immune system and can even be used to kill internal parasites! Spirulina is good for the immune system as well. Peas and pumpkin are good for the digestive tract. I use all of these ingredients in my gel food!

•For protein, I use a mixture of frozen and live foods. For frozen, I like blackworms, daphnia, moina, mosquito larvae, brine shrimp, tubifex, river shrimp, fish fillets, peas, and lentils. For live, I use silkworms, earthworms, fruit flies, and black soldier fly larvae (I don't like grinding them alive, though, so I freeze them first). I avoid bloodworms in the main diet, as too much can cause digestive problems, so only use them as treats.

•For greens, I like using canned pumpkin, frozen peas, kale, spinach, snow peas, spirulina, cucumber, zucchini, and more!

•For carbohydrates, I use wheat germ, oats, and quinoa.

Oh, and it's probably also important to mention that I only keep freshwater fish. I'm not sure whether you can use the same ingredients for saltwater. I'm sure you can, though

 

[LanternFish]

They have different nutritional needs but can generally eat the same things. Try to measure nutrition.

 

[Mindelo]

What do you mean by keeping the food consistent? Do you mean like- not running out of them? Also what type of fish you have? (sorry for so many questions lol, I just wanna fully understand your question)

sorry, the correct word is "bind", what can i use to bind the ingredients?
when you feed your fishes with pellets, the pellet stick does not fall apart. i have cichlids.
don't worry, you're the one trying to help me, so ask as many questions as you need

I know most homemade food has unflavored gelatin to bind it. It would be more like a cube though.

If food is blowing all over try turning the filter down or off. Just remember to turn it back on....

i read about gelatin, but it's for frozen food. i want to make dry food
is not because of the filter, is just by touching the water

 

[LanternFish]

According to wikipedia, "Modern fish feeds are made by grinding and mixing together ingredients such as fishmeal, vegetable proteins and binding agents such as wheat." So maybe wheat? I'm not sure how though. Maybe YouTube has some answers.

 

[Mindelo]

According to wikipedia, "Modern fish feeds are made by grinding and mixing together ingredients such as fishmeal, vegetable proteins and binding agents such as wheat." So maybe wheat? I'm not sure how though. Maybe YouTube has some answers.

Thanks, this putted me in the right direction.
I've been Searching about this, and several sources say that wheat, Rice, potato, corn are not good binders as they are not properly digested by the fishes, só they just act as fillers, generating more excrements.
Any sugestions on this? And alternatives?

 

[LanternFish]

Thanks, this putted me in the right direction.
I've been Searching about this, and several sources say that wheat, Rice, potato, corn are not good binders as they are not properly digested by the fishes, só they just act as fillers, generating more excrements.
Any sugestions on this? And alternatives?

Do you know the binder in aquatic feed pellet?
THE NUTRITION AND FEEDING OF FARMED FISH AND SHRIMP
Those links should be helpful and informing. I think there may be some people/companies that sell binding powders but if those are actual things, I'd make sure to check the ingredients. One section I found from the second link is,
"additional dietary binding agents will be required such as starchy plant products (ie. sago palm starch, cassava starch, potato starch, bread or wheat flour, rice and maize; binding being achieved through heat treatment and consequent starch gelatinization), alginates (ie. salts of alginic acid extracted from seaweeds), carrageenin, plant gums (ie. guar gum, locust bean gum, gum arabic), agar, high-gluten wheat flour, chitosan, propylene glycol alginate and gelatin (Forster, 1972; Heinen, 1981; Balazs, 1973; Meyers, Butler and Hastings, 1972; Pascual and Sumalangcay, 1981; Pascual, Bandonil and Destajo, 1978; Murai, Sumalangkay and Pascual, 1981; Viola, Gur and Zohar, 1986)."

 

[Mindelo]

thank you all.
this weekend i did my own food (dry pellets / flakes), i used: garlic, carrot, cabbage, sweet potato, potato and mackerel roe (this was the things i had available).
> i cooked them in vapor,
> then i smashed them with a fork,
> and finally blend them with a mixer,
> placed the final product in a plate and put in the oven.

the fishes are loving it so far
now i just need to tweak couple things in the process to make it better