5 Gallon Tank Betta seems to be dying :(

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What is the water volume of the tank? About 5 g
How long has the tank been running? Three months
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 79 degrees
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) dumbo betta female (Acapella)

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Weekly
How much of the water do you change?. 20%
What do you use to treat your water? Water Conditioner Top Fin
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? API master
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0-5 (cant tell)
pH: 7

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? Once a day
How much do you feed your fish? Two pellets
What brand of food do you feed your fish? Tetra
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods? No

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? Two months
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? Two weeks ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Ragged fins, clamped fins, slowness(?), floating at the top/laying on plants (basically not moving), lost color
Have you started any treatment for the illness? No
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?. Sorta (she was shipped to me and arrived very sickly, but she completely recovered after a couple days)
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Color almost gone, fins very clamped/ragged, barely moving, can't find food even when dropped right in front if her mouth

Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now) Acapella started acting funny a couple weeks ago, losing color and clamping fins. However it's gotten much worse. I'm afraid she'll pass in a couple days. I don't know what to do the water is perfect and there isn't anything bothering her in the tank. My friend thought it might be from getting shipped here?? That she just isn't healthy? I posted once before about her but she has gotten alot worse since then. Here are pictures from last month and today.
 

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Tank

What is the water volume of the tank? About 5 g
How long has the tank been running? Three months
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 79 degrees
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) dumbo betta female (Acapella)

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Weekly
How much of the water do you change?. 20%
What do you use to treat your water? Water Conditioner Top Fin
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? API master
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0-5 (cant tell)
pH: 7

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? Once a day
How much do you feed your fish? Two pellets
What brand of food do you feed your fish? Tetra
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods? No

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? Two months
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? Two weeks ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Ragged fins, clamped fins, slowness(?), floating at the top/laying on plants (basically not moving), lost color
Have you started any treatment for the illness? No
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?. Sorta (she was shipped to me and arrived very sickly, but she completely recovered after a couple days)
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Color almost gone, fins very clamped/ragged, barely moving, can't find food even when dropped right in front if her mouth

Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now) Acapella started acting funny a couple weeks ago, losing color and clamping fins. However it's gotten much worse. I'm afraid she'll pass in a couple days. I don't know what to do the water is perfect and there isn't anything bothering her in the tank. My friend thought it might be from getting shipped here?? That she just isn't healthy? I posted once before about her but she has gotten alot worse since then. Here are pictures from last month and today.
Ohhh, I am sorry. IDK what is causing it. Though Clamped fins are a sure sign of stress. So, something in the tank is stressing out that betta. I recommend api stress coat. Add API stress coat and see if things get better. If not, add aquarium salt.

WAIT. On the second pic, you provided I saw you bettas back looks very curved and hunched. I think your betta has tuberculosis. It causes the spine to be crooked or curved. Here is an article that will explain. Also, I don't think aquarium salt or stress coat will help. I think your betta is too far. I am sorry. Tuberculosis in fish is usually non-treatable. If a fish has a bent or curved spine, it is most likely infected with a Gram-positive mycobacteria (Mycobacterium marinum or M. fortuitum). This is commonly referred to as fish tuberculosis, piscine tuberculosis, acid-fast disease or granuloma disease.

Also, two pellets a day is not nearly enough. I feed my betta twice a day, 4 pellets each time. So, my betta gets 8 pellets a day and he is not bloated, does not have issues, and is not overweight. He gets freeze-dried bloodworms once a week as a treat. He doesn't get fed on Sundays. recommend feeding the same schedule as I have. Two pellets once a day is not nearly enough and Tetra doesn't have quality ingredients per se. I feed my betta Hikari Micro pellets and Omega one Freeze-dried bloodworms.

Tuberculosis In Betta Fish - Can It Be Cured? - Betta Care Fish Guide.
 

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Thank you so much for replying, I was starting to panic! Here is a better picture of her. I can see slight curving but I don't know if it's a problem or if I'm taking pictures at the wrong time. Thank you for the help. I'll up the food for the rest of my bettas immediately. I used to be feeding three in the am and three in the pm, but someone (on this site I think) told me it was to much so I lowered to two in the am with one shrimp a week. I'll check out the article now.
 
Thank you so much for replying, I was starting to panic! Here is a better picture of her. I can see slight curving but I don't know if it's a problem or if I'm taking pictures at the wrong time. Thank you for the help. I'll up the food for the rest of my bettas immediately. I used to be feeding three in the am and three in the pm, but someone (on this site I think) told me it was to much so I lowered to two in the am with one shrimp a week. I'll check out the article now.
OK, good luck! Also, the picture didn't post for some reason.
 
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OK, good luck! Also, the picture didn't post for some reason.
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Thank you! That's weird I'll try one more time
 

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I definitely second that your betta is probably hungry. Other than that I'm not sure what's up, sorry. Make sure that the food you're feeding is high in protein. I can't access frozen food so I give them so freeze dried brine shrimp and freeze dried blood worms and they love it. Best of luck!
 
I definitely second that your betta is probably hungry. Other than that I'm not sure what's up, sorry. Make sure that the food you're feeding is high in protein. I can't access frozen food so I give them so freeze dried brine shrimp and freeze dried blood worms and they love it. Best of luck!
I think it is just not good enough food. Bad nutrition can mean an weakened immune system. Like I said bloodworms and hikari micro pellet are my reccomendation. Hannah1064 , you should switch out the tetra pellets for hikari micro pellets.
 
I think it is just not good enough food. Bad nutrition can mean an weakened immune system. Like I said bloodworms and hikari micro pellet are my reccomendation. Hannah1064 , you should switch out the tetra pellets for hikari micro pellets.
Yeah hikari micro pellets are definitely the way to go.
 
Just know you might have to feed more than a pellet a day. I have micro pellets myself, and I had to do a bit of experimenting to figure out how much my betta ate. You might know this, but a bettas stomach is as big as their eye.

Your betta is clearly stressed. Turn down the lights, do API stress coat, possibly IAL leaves, and so on.
 

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Definitely something going on with your fish. Personally I think that 2 pellets a day are okay if you have a smaller female betta, a feed my girl 2-3 pellets a day however I also feed frozen once a week so maybe that’s something you should also consider if that’s a possibility for you. I agree with the stress factor, are there loud noises in your home or is there a flow from your filter? Could you try to get pictures of her with the flash on and a picture looking down on her from above please? Has she been bloated at all during the time you have had her? Where was she bought from? hopefully she can get better!!
 
Just know you might have to feed more than a pellet a day. I have micro pellets myself, and I had to do a bit of experimenting to figure out how much my betta ate. You might know this, but a bettas stomach is as big as their eye.
I mean I agree with most of this BUT the betta eye thing IMO is not confirmed we don't really know how big a betta's eye is because we only see the front. Overalll, I agree.
Definitely something going on with your fish. Personally I think that 2 pellets a day are okay if you have a smaller female betta, a feed my girl 2-3 pellets a day however I also feed frozen once a week so maybe that’s something you should also consider if that’s a possibility for you. I agree with the stress factor, are there loud noises in your home or is there a flow from your filter? Could you try to get pictures of her with the flash on and a picture looking down on her from above please? Has she been bloated at all during the time you have had her? Where was she bought from? hopefully she can get better!!
Agree BUT 2 pellets a day is just way too less. like 2 small pellets of food, every day is not enough by any means. Though I agree with the rest of your post.

Also, Hannah1064 , you should add some frozen foods to all your fish's diet.
 
DO NOT feed tetra pellets, give that betta some variety too! Give it fluval bug bites and freeze dried bloodworms, the tetra pellets are low quality and they can/most likely will expand in their stomach causing bloating
 
I mean I agree with most of this BUT the betta eye thing IMO is not confirmed we don't really know how big a betta's eye is because we only see the front. Overalll, I agree.

Agree BUT 2 pellets a day is just way too less. like 2 small pellets of food, every day is not enough by any means. Though I agree with the rest of your post.

Also, Hannah1064 , you should add some frozen foods to all your fish's diet.
I’ve got the same food that hannah1064 has, the pellets aren’t small but aren’t huge. Personally with my girl if I feed more than 2-3 she bloats easily. Of course this dosent work with all bettas I think every betta needs fed differently. I definitely think that if you feed a small amount of pellets you definitely have to incorporate other high protein foods though
Edit: my mistake, I don’t feed the same food, I feed aqueon not tetra I get them mixed up as that’s what I feed my community tank, oops lol
 
DO NOT feed tetra pellets, give that betta some variety too! Give it fluval bug bites and freeze dried bloodworms, the tetra pellets are low quality and they can/most likely will expand in their stomach causing bloating
Agreed.
I’ve got the same food that hannah1064 has, the pellets aren’t small but aren’t huge. Personally with my girl if I feed more than 2-3 she bloats easily. Of course this dosent work with all bettas I think every betta needs fed differently. I definitely think that if you feed a small amount of pellets you definitely have to incorporate other high protein foods though
Edit: my mistake, I don’t feed the same food, oops lol
Lol. Oops! Though I just think there are better food than Tetra. Tetra isn't ideal tbh
Fluval bug bites work well and are cheap
I like Fluval big bites but they are tiny like powder and sink though I really like the idea. Sinking foods aren't quite ideal for most bettas that doesn't stop my very food-motivated betta, Poseidon , lol.
 
I have spirunilia flakes they don’t just make powder
I really like fluval bug bites. IMO, I would feed it to my betta tho I would feed the tropical formula for med to large fish. The med to large fish one seems like a good size.
 
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Definitely something going on with your fish. Personally I think that 2 pellets a day are okay if you have a smaller female betta, a feed my girl 2-3 pellets a day however I also feed frozen once a week so maybe that’s something you should also consider if that’s a possibility for you. I agree with the stress factor, are there loud noises in your home or is there a flow from your filter? Could you try to get pictures of her with the flash on and a picture looking down on her from above please? Has she been bloated at all during the time you have had her? Where was she bought from? hopefully she can get better!!

Okay I'll look into the food. There is loud noises, nothing ridiculous ( I have five younger siblings), her tank is in my room so there isn't any major noise often. She has a sponge filter with bubbles and it doesn't seem to bother her. I'll take the picture now, she has not been bloated (as far as I can tell), and she was bought from a breeder in New York. I spoke to several people who had bought from him before as well as checking all reviews (solid five stars, every review).
I mean I agree with most of this BUT the betta eye thing IMO is not confirmed we don't really know how big a betta's eye is because we only see the front. Overalll, I agree.

Agree BUT 2 pellets a day is just way too less. like 2 small pellets of food, every day is not enough by any means. Though I agree with the rest of your post.

Also, Hannah1064 , you should add some frozen foods to all your fish's diet.

Thank you, I'll look into finding some soon. Our local petstores don't carry much but hopefully I can get it online.
 

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Okay I'll look into the food. There is loud noises, nothing ridiculous ( I have five younger siblings), her tank is in my room so there isn't any major noise often. She has a sponge filter with bubbles and it doesn't seem to bother her. I'll take the picture now, she has not been bloated (as far as I can tell), and she was bought from a breeder in New York. I spoke to several people who had bought from him before as well as checking all reviews (solid five stars, every review).
Well it dosent look like dropsy, bloat or fish TB. Could you post a picture of her tank? Any chance you could test for chlorine in the water?
 

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Well it dosent look like dropsy, bloat or fish TB. Could you post a picture of her tank? Any chance you could test for chlorine in the water?
Agreed. I am baffled by this case. AcornTheBetta and FishGirl115
 
Okay I'll look into the food. There is loud noises, nothing ridiculous ( I have five younger siblings), her tank is in my room so there isn't any major noise often. She has a sponge filter with bubbles and it doesn't seem to bother her. I'll take the picture now, she has not been bloated (as far as I can tell), and she was bought from a breeder in New York. I spoke to several people who had bought from him before as well as checking all reviews (solid five stars, every review).


Thank you, I'll look into finding some soon. Our local petstores don't carry much but hopefully I can get it online.
Also any issues with her breathing?
 
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Well it dosent look like dropsy, bloat or fish TB. Could you post a picture of her tank? Any chance you could test for chlorine in the water?

I can, here you go! I don't have anything to test for chlorine sadly. I know tall isn't ideal but it's a pretty big tank with pirches close to the surface.
Also any issues with her breathing?

I can't tell, she comes to the surface and breathes regularly. Her gills move regularly.
 

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I can, here you go! I don't have anything to test for chlorine sadly. I know tall isn't ideal but it's a pretty big tank with pirches close to the surface.
I don’t see anything that could cause pollution to the water. If no else comes up with anything I’d say get her some good frozen food, maybe brine shrimp or bloodworms and maybe try adding a snail to entertain her maybe get her a little active. Only thing I can think of would be that she isn’t getting proper nutrition, but she dosent look skinny so perhaps she is missing out on some vitiman or maybe even protein, let me look into the food you are feeding her and see if that could be a possibility
 
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I don’t see anything that could cause pollution to the water. If no else comes up with anything I’d say get her some good frozen food, maybe brine shrimp or bloodworms and maybe try adding a snail to entertain her maybe get her a little active. Only thing I can think of would be that she isn’t getting proper nutrition, but she dosent look skinny so perhaps she is missing out on some vitiman or maybe even protein, let me look into the food you are feeding her and see if that could be a possibility

I'm going to the store after my classes tomorrow. I found all the food recommended earlier on this thread and hopefully I can get it. I'd like to get a snail but there is a slot on the back the lid doesn't cover and it would be easy for it to climb out. Here's the ingredients for the food ( I just use the pellets). I can tell the ingredients aren't the healthiest but I was to inexperienced to notice when I bought it months ago.
 

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The symptoms you’re seeing are just so vague. She’s just not doing well. I feel like she can pull through it though. I second trying new better foods. Frozen bloodworms (not freeze dried because the nutrients are not all there anymore) are especially high in protein and good for sick fishies. I second keeping the lights down, maybe turn them on for 4-5 hrs a day only. Minimize loud noises or stressful environments. Do a water change 2x / week instead of once. Add Indian Almond Leaves (a natural immune boost and stress reducer) until the tank water is a tea brown color from the leave’s tannins. Keep us posted!
 
I'm going to the store after my classes tomorrow. I found all the food recommended earlier on this thread and hopefully I can get it. I'd like to get a snail but there is a slot on the back the lid doesn't cover and it would be easy for it to climb out. Here's the ingredients for the food ( I just use the pellets). I can tell the ingredients aren't the healthiest but I was to inexperienced to notice when I bought it months ago.
I can tell the ingredient aren't good and there is a lot of fillers in it. Like I said, Hikari micro pellets and frozen bloodworms, do u have seachem stress guard or API stress coat?

The symptoms you’re seeing are just so vague. She’s just not doing well. I feel like she can pull through it though. I second trying new better foods. Frozen bloodworms (not freeze dried because the nutrients are not all there anymore) are especially high in protein and good for sick fishies. I second keeping the lights down, maybe turn them on for 4-5 hrs a day only. Minimize loud noises or stressful environments. Do a water change 2x / week instead of once. Add Indian Almond Leaves (a natural immune boost and stress reducer) until the tank water is a tea brown color from the leave’s tannins. Keep us posted!
I agree with this completely through and through.
 
I do think she looks malnourished. Here’s a quick tip: there are many cases on here where people do not know what they’re talking about and only parrot “info” spread by other people. Some even do it just to up their post counts as if it’s a competition. No one knows your fish as well as you do, and if your fish was at a healthy weight while you were feeding 3 pellets day and night, they were wrong to tell you to lower the amount. Take everything with a grain of salt

that being said, your betta does look a little bit skinny and malnourished. Her body is very slender for a female, especially her stomach area, and there is no fat deposit by her tail. My advice is to for sure up her feeding back to how it was before someone told you that you were feeding too much. A higher quality pellet + frozen foods would be ideal too. I personally like the new life spectrum betta formula, but it’s just what I have.

The main Ingredients in your food are things like “soy bean oil, wheat flour, wheat gluten, potatoes” etc... all things bettas can not properly digest as carnivores. So, ultimately, not only is she getting small amounts of food, she can’t properly digest most of it. Honestly this could end up being the issue (malnutrition).

the main ingredients you want to look for in food are things like whole krill, fish, scallops, bugs, etc. betta bug bites will probably be your best bet.

she also has stress stripes it seems. She’s not very happy about something. For sure lower light and add tannins to the water (darkens the water to calm them, as well as natural antibiotic and antibacterial to hopefully help prevent any sort of infection in her fins). Keeping the water clean would be good too. Her home looks lovely, so hopefully she’s just malnourished.

best of luck
 
I forgot to add in my above post so as a side thought: typically I feed my male bettas until I can see their little stomachs clearly. It’s easier for me to know they’re full if they LOOK full instead of the “size of the eye” trick.
 
How I know if my betta is well fed is if his/her belly is rounded and from the top, if they look fat and plump. (Not too fat, lol)
 

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The symptoms you’re seeing are just so vague. She’s just not doing well. I feel like she can pull through it though. I second trying new better foods. Frozen bloodworms (not freeze dried because the nutrients are not all there anymore) are especially high in protein and good for sick fishies. I second keeping the lights down, maybe turn them on for 4-5 hrs a day only. Minimize loud noises or stressful environments. Do a water change 2x / week instead of once. Add Indian Almond Leaves (a natural immune boost and stress reducer) until the tank water is a tea brown color from the leave’s tannins. Keep us posted!

Yeah her symptoms are very odd. I'll be sure to get frozen blood worms and not freeze dried. I've already been turning the lights down and I'll continue doing that. I'll also do the extra wcs. I've already been adding IA leaves every couple weeks but I'll start adding it dayly. I'll let y'all know how she does!!
I can tell the ingredient aren't good and there is a lot of fillers in it. Like I said, Hikari micro pellets and frozen bloodworms, do u have seachem stress guard or API stress coat?


I agree with this completely through and through.

Yeah I agree, I'm buying new food first thing tomorrow. I do not have either but I'm buying API stress coat tomorrow also.
 
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I do think she looks malnourished. Here’s a quick tip: there are many cases on here where people do not know what they’re talking about and only parrot “info” spread by other people. Some even do it just to up their post counts as if it’s a competition. No one knows your fish as well as you do, and if your fish was at a healthy weight while you were feeding 3 pellets day and night, they were wrong to tell you to lower the amount. Take everything with a grain of salt

that being said, your betta does look a little bit skinny and malnourished. Her body is very slender for a female, especially her stomach area, and there is no fat deposit by her tail. My advice is to for sure up her feeding back to how it was before someone told you that you were feeding too much. A higher quality pellet + frozen foods would be ideal too. I personally like the new life spectrum betta formula, but it’s just what I have.

The main Ingredients in your food are things like “soy bean oil, wheat flour, wheat gluten, potatoes” etc... all things bettas can not properly digest as carnivores. So, ultimately, not only is she getting small amounts of food, she can’t properly digest most of it. Honestly this could end up being the issue (malnutrition).

the main ingredients you want to look for in food are things like whole krill, fish, scallops, bugs, etc. betta bug bites will probably be your best bet.

she also has stress stripes it seems. She’s not very happy about something. For sure lower light and add tannins to the water (darkens the water to calm them, as well as natural antibiotic and antibacterial to hopefully help prevent any sort of infection in her fins). Keeping the water clean would be good too. Her home looks lovely, so hopefully she’s just malnourished.

best of luck

I'll going to start with the new food first thing tomorrow. I already found a store that cares so high quality food that was recommended in this thread. Thank you so much!! I'll try to do everything you recommended!
Hi Hannah
Is this the same betta in this thread:
Betta seems to be stressed out?? 10 Gallon Tank - | Freshwater Fish Disease and Fish Health Forum | 474669

If so, are there still 2 bettas in a divided tank?

Nope that was my other two! Since then Musi has calmed down and neither seem to be bothered by the divider thank goodness.
 
I'll going to start with the new food first thing tomorrow. I already found a store that cares so high quality food that was recommended in this thread. Thank you so much!! I'll try to do everything you recommended!
Yay! Just remember to check ingredients for whichever pellet/flake food you buy, the first 5 or so should definitely be protein sources and not fillers and you should try to stay away from fillers if possible but the frozen food is a definitely for a healthy happy betta I really hope she gets better!
 
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Yay! Just remember to check ingredients for whichever pellet/flake food you buy, the first 5 or so should definitely be protein sources and not fillers and you should try to stay away from fillers if possible but the frozen food is a definitely for a healthy happy betta I really hope she gets better!

I will definitely check. I'm going to try and find some frozen food too. Thank you!!
Hi Hannah
Is this the same betta in this thread:
Betta seems to be stressed out?? 10 Gallon Tank - | Freshwater Fish Disease and Fish Health Forum | 474669

If so, are there still 2 bettas in a divided tank?

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Pease excuse my callousness. I know you are worried and I'm sorry your betta isn't doing well.

Yeah don't worry about it at all! Thank you, hopefully she'll start recovering soon
 
Yeah don't worry about it at all! Thank you, hopefully she'll start recovering soon

So the tank is divided with another betta on the other side?
I honestly don't think this is solely a nutrition issue. That is one stressed out betta.
 
I think it is just not good enough food. Bad nutrition can mean an weakened immune system. Like I said bloodworms and hikari micro pellet are my reccomendation. Hannah1064 , you should switch out the tetra pellets for hikari micro pellets.
Hikari Betta Bio Gold is the best pellet there is!
 
So the tank is divided with another betta on the other side?
I honestly don't think this is solely a nutrition issue. That is one stressed out betta.
This is a different betta. The betta OP has in a divided tank are both males. This one’s a female
 
This is a different betta. The betta OP has in a divided tank are both males. This one’s a female
Thank you for clarifying.
 
I will definitely check. I'm going to try and find some frozen food too. Thank you!!


Yeah don't worry about it at all! Thank you, hopefully she'll start recovering soon
Definitely agree that she is a bit on the skinny side. It is extremely hard to judge the right amount of food.
If you could fatten her up a bit, and she has the energy to swim around, she will be beautiful again.
My Bettas eat frozen brineshrimp with and without Spirulina, bloodworms, daphnia, mysis shrimp. Just start her on small portions,and I hope it is not too late.
I also watch for a slightly bulging belly to judge if they had enough. Best of luck!
 

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Thank you for clarifying.
No problem! I agree this is a seriously stressed out betta. Hopefully with the IALs, stress coat, and minimal lighting or activity around the tank on top of the better nutrition she will destress.
 
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This is a different betta. The betta OP has in a divided tank are both males. This one’s a female

Yes exactly! Sorry if I was confusing anyone
 
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I just added IAL tea and API stress coat to her water and I bought Hikari Micro Pellets and Fluval Bug Bites at the store. I'll let y'all know if anything else happens.
 
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Everyone, thank you so much for your help. Acapella just passed away. I haven't decided what to do with her old tank. I might get a new betta but it's too soon right now
 
Everyone, thank you so much for your help. Acapella just passed away. I haven't decided what to do with her old tank. I might get a new betta but it's too soon right now
I’m so sorry for your loss
 
Everyone, thank you so much for your help. Acapella just passed away. I haven't decided what to do with her old tank. I might get a new betta but it's too soon right now
Oh. I am very sorry. All of us tried so hard but we did what we could. *Virtual hug*
 
Everyone, thank you so much for your help. Acapella just passed away. I haven't decided what to do with her old tank. I might get a new betta but it's too soon right now
I'm sorry for your loss. SIP Acapella!
 
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