Betta Fish Scales And Mouth Turning White

[Flyfisha]

The slime on top could be as simple as fish oil from dry food?

Here is a link to a fishlore page on the subject of GH

https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/gh-and-kh-readings-for-betta-and-cories.339415/

I would still research a few other places.

 

[CoryMaster151]

The slime on top could be as simple as fish oil from dry food?

Here is a link to a fishlore page on the subject of GH

https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/gh-and-kh-readings-for-betta-and-cories.339415/

I would still research a few other places.

Thanks you so much!

 

[aquanata]

Thanks you so much!

Just encouragement here ... you're working so persistently & just gulping new fishkeeping info. It's encouragement to me to keep learning what I don't know so well. Thank you. Your animals are lucky.

Hope the renewed salt & mineral amendment helps your boy.

 

[CoryMaster151]

Just encouragement here ... you're working so persistently & just gulping new fishkeeping info. It's encouragement to me to keep learning what I don't know so well. Thank you. Your animals are lucky.

Hope the renewed salt & mineral amendment helps your boy.

I have to thank you for making me be persistent and that's what I enjoy about this hobby is learning all the new things even though sometimes it is painful to slowly trial & error but I do try my best for my little friends! I am very keen to test my water for this GH and have ordered some equilibrium so I'm hoping that gets here asap as my fish shops have none and my GH test is going to be here tomorrow.

After dosing with salt today iv noticed he's been a little bit more active but still isn't wanting to take food and have noticed his colour to change a little dull with his top fins starting to fray. I am just hoping these minerals fix him and that they get here quick!

Thanks Heaps again for all your answers & will keep you updated!

 

[CoryMaster151]

Hey Guys,

I don't think its looking good! He hasn't eaten for now 7 days and I have just got back from the shops and I have noticed that his scales are pine conned. Is this the start of dropsy or is their any reason of why he would be dealing with this now!

He has been really active today that's why I thought he might be doing Better till now? I have started to see some fin fraying on the top of him. I put 2 tablespoons of salt in his tank yesterday (20L) and he was fine all day and he was swimming for a little while?

Thanks in Advance Again!

 

[Flyfisha]

Oh dear CoryMaster151 that’s not good news.

That does look like pine conning .

 

[CoryMaster151]

Oh dear CoryMaster151 that’s not good news.

That does look like pine conning

How did he get this?
Is their anything I can do?

 

[Flyfisha]

I can not guess and should not guess how the fish has developed this dropsy . It is said there are a number of reasons for it.

Sorry I don’t know of a magical cure.

 

[CoryMaster151]

I can not guess and should not guess how the fish has developed this dropsy . It is said there are a number of reasons for it.

Sorry I don’t know of a magical cure.

Thanks for your honest response

 

[aquanata]

Hey Guys,

I don't think its looking good! He hasn't eaten for now 7 days and I have just got back from the shops and I have noticed that his scales are pine conned. Is this the start of dropsy or is their any reason of why he would be dealing with this now!

He has been really active today that's why I thought he might be doing Better till now? I have started to see some fin fraying on the top of him. I put 2 tablespoons of salt in his tank yesterday (20L) and he was fine all day and he was swimming for a little while?

Thanks in Advance Again!

He is pineconing & I'm sorry to say, is very unlikely to survive. There's no way we can tell what caused the dropsy - generally the result of organ failure. I'm very sorry. Betta can be the 'hardy' animals that survived living in bowls, but more & more now, they can be riddled with genetic defects & immune problems from the explosion of poor breeding. There also seems to be a huge increase in treatment resistant organisms in the trade. The last 5 or 6 years I've had more betta in my hospital tanks than ever before.

If he appears to be suffering at this point I can give you directions for euthanasia with clove oil. I'm so very, very sorry.

 

[CoryMaster151]

Hey Guys,

I would like to thank you guys for your continuous advice while trying to help my little buddy but I'm sorry to say that he has passed yesterday RIP

It has been an insightful experience as I have learned a lot about the mineral deficiency in my rain water and I am very interested in what my GH will be when my kit gets here. When my kit gets here I will send my results just to see what you guys think?

Question? Do you think Mineral deficiency would have been the start of this because looking at photos my last betta lasted pretty much the exact same amount of time! Or was it something else?

Once again I say thanks to your continuous responses

 

[Flyfisha]

That’s a bit of sad news CoryMaster151 but i can’t say it’s a surprise from yesterdays pictures.

I can’t speculate on your water without knowing the GH .

 

[aquanata]

Hey Guys,

I would like to thank you guys for your continuous advice while trying to help my little buddy but I'm sorry to say that he has passed yesterday RIP

It has been an insightful experience as I have learned a lot about the mineral deficiency in my rain water and I am very interested in what my GH will be when my kit gets here. When my kit gets here I will send my results just to see what you guys think?

Question? Do you think Mineral deficiency would have been the start of this because looking at photos my last betta lasted pretty much the exact same amount of time! Or was it something else?

Once again I say thanks to your continuous responses

I'm very sorry for your loss. It's miserable to lose a companion animal you've worked so hard to treat.

There's no way to tell without formal testing what exactly your boy was suffering from & what the ideal treatment to help his body fight it off would have been. It's not often we have access to hands on vet care. I can reassure you that our animals often carry everything from infection to parasites & are just fine with them. You didn't start any illness in this or your last betta. However, with any of us, suboptimal conditions that lack or over provide something critical to our health can make a difference in health & survival. It's possible mineral deficiency restricted the tools betta needed to over come this particular organism. It's possible it played little to no role.

We do know general acceptable water parameters & your testing will help you meet them. Can't guarantee that no health issues would crop up even with every single thing ideal but water quality within general guidelines would get you closer to those ideal conditions.

I'm so sorry. You've worked very hard.

 

[CoryMaster151]

I'm very sorry for your loss. It's miserable to lose a companion animal you've worked so hard to treat.

There's no way to tell without formal testing what exactly your boy was suffering from & what the ideal treatment to help his body fight it off would have been. It's not often we have access to hands on vet care. I can reassure you that our animals often carry everything from infection to parasites & are just fine with them. You didn't start any illness in this or your last betta. However, with any of us, suboptimal conditions that lack or over provide something critical to our health can make a difference in health & survival. It's possible mineral deficiency restricted the tools betta needed to over come this particular organism. It's possible it played little to no role.

We do know general acceptable water parameters & your testing will help you meet them. Can't guarantee that no health issues would crop up even with every single thing ideal but water quality within general guidelines would get you closer to those ideal conditions.

I'm so sorry. You've worked very hard.

Hey Guys,

Thanks I am a bit sad as I did try really hard to Bring him back to his healthy state! but I understand sometimes it is not possible

I don't think we have any Fish vets over here in Australia that I know off!

Once I get my kit with GH & KH I will update and then discuss whether that could have been a factor?

I am hoping that we can try & identify the problem even though I know their are a lot of factors

Thanks for your help and will be in touch shortly!
Kind Regards
CoryMaster151

 

[CoryMaster151]

hey guys,

I finally got my GH & KH test kit with equilibrium.
I got a result of 3dkh or 53.7ppm using the API GH test kit! Is this good or does it need to be dosed up a bit?
What do bettas need to survive?

My KH is 2 dkh or 35.8 ppm

thanks heaps