Aqueon Vs. Python: What do you think?

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kinezumi89

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Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
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Nitrate
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Temperature
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Fluorescent
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Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
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Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
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20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
I was going to make a poll, but then I couldn't post this thread in the "cleaning and maintenance" forum

My boyfriend and I have decided that doing water changes on our 55 gallon tank with buckets is too much of a pain in the butt. The fact that it takes forever sometimes dissuades us from cleaning the tank (not for extended periods of time of course), so we think a water changer would be a good investment.

1. Which one do you have? Do you like it? Are there any problems with it?

2. If you've used both, do you think the Python is worth the extra $10? (They're cheaper at Petco than Petsmart, and the Aqueon is $30 and the Python is $40 for 25'-hoses. We haven't looked anywhere else yet, but I'm sure the Python will always be more expensive.)

3. I know I've seen people post a good "how to use a water changer" YouTube video, but I can't for the life of me find it on here or by searching on YouTube. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, could you post a link?

Thanks a bunch!

Just for fun, I'll keep track of votes here:
Python - 2
Aqueon - 2
Marina - 1
 
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Ammonia
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Nitrate
5.0/10
Temperature
74-75
pH
7.8 - 8.0
Lighting
AQUEON LED + AQUEON OPTIBRIGHT LED
Aquarium Filter Type
2 HOB Aqueon 55/75
Aquarium #2 Size
10 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
shrimp
Tank #2 Start Date
4/01/12
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10
Tank #2 Temperature
78
Tank #2 Filter Type
AQUEON 10
Aquarium #3 Size
5 Gallon QT Tank
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
QT
Tank #3 Start Date
11/2016
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5.0 or less
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 Lighting
LED
Tank #3 Filter Type
Aqueon 30
Wow I can't believe you have been doing the bucket thing for so long! Whatever one you get, you will definitely cut your time in half, or more!!!!

I use an aqueon - never had a problem with it. Some people had posted that they leak, get kinked up but so far, in the 9 months I have had it ( it gets used at least once every week ) and I have yet to have any of those problems. I LOVE mine and wouldn't dream of doing the bucket change ever again.

By the way, I just used my aqueon this past weekend for filling up the water on my Christmas tree stand!!! Another GREAT use!!!

Good luck!
 
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List any water conditioners and test kits used:
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Aquarium Size
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Thanks for the review! Yeah, it takes like half an hour just waiting for the buckets to fill up I thought the water changers were way more expensive, like $50-$100, which is part of the reason I hadn't looked in to it yet.
 

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Aquarium Start Date
6/2014 ( upgraded from previous tank that was started in 2012 )
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5.0/10
Temperature
74-75
pH
7.8 - 8.0
Lighting
AQUEON LED + AQUEON OPTIBRIGHT LED
Aquarium Filter Type
2 HOB Aqueon 55/75
Aquarium #2 Size
10 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
shrimp
Tank #2 Start Date
4/01/12
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10
Tank #2 Temperature
78
Tank #2 Filter Type
AQUEON 10
Aquarium #3 Size
5 Gallon QT Tank
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
QT
Tank #3 Start Date
11/2016
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5.0 or less
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 Lighting
LED
Tank #3 Filter Type
Aqueon 30
Thanks for the review! Yeah, it takes like half an hour just waiting for the buckets to fill up I thought the water changers were way more expensive, like $50-$100, which is part of the reason I hadn't looked in to it yet.

I believe you can get the aqueon on amazon for like $30.00 ( 25 ft length )
 
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Aquarium Type
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
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Nitrate
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Temperature
80-82F
pH
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Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Yup, Petco has it for the same price
 

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Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
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Aquarium Size
72 gallon bowfront
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Zebra Danios, Cory catfish, BN pleco, glowlight tetras, Black Neons, Neon tetras, ember tetras, Cardinal tetras, Zebra & Tiger Nerites, horned Nerites, Guppies, Dojo loaches, Kuhli loaches, Platy's
Aquarium Start Date
6/2014 ( upgraded from previous tank that was started in 2012 )
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5.0/10
Temperature
74-75
pH
7.8 - 8.0
Lighting
AQUEON LED + AQUEON OPTIBRIGHT LED
Aquarium Filter Type
2 HOB Aqueon 55/75
Aquarium #2 Size
10 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
shrimp
Tank #2 Start Date
4/01/12
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10
Tank #2 Temperature
78
Tank #2 Filter Type
AQUEON 10
Aquarium #3 Size
5 Gallon QT Tank
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Fish Only
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
QT
Tank #3 Start Date
11/2016
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5.0 or less
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 Lighting
LED
Tank #3 Filter Type
Aqueon 30
The only reason I got the Aqueon vs the Python was when I was buying my tank at Petsmart, I had a coupon ( from petco ) and I ended up getting 20% off of everything so the Aqueon ended up costing half the price - so if you go to either store, try and find a coupon and usually they will do a price match or honor the discount
 

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IMO and IME, Marina brand siphoner/cleaner is THE best one (over both that are mentioned). It's stiffer (the hose), had a bigger vacuum connection and has a brass connector that hooks to the sink.

It works very well when vacuuming and performing water changes on the fish tanks. I got the 50' for 45.99 on Amazon (Free shipping)! Not sure how much the 25' was, but it was cheaper than the Python at the time.
 
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Quarantine?
Yes
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
Prime with each water change

API Master Test Kit
Experience
3 years
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
10 gallon
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Interesting, I didn't know there were other varieties! I'll have to look into it, thanks.
 

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10 gallon
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API freshwater master kit
Seachem Prime
Seachem Safe
Experience
Just started
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
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Aquarium Size
210 G
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
3- Angelfish (2M-1F)
1-EBJD
1-Peruvian Severum
5-Bolivian Rams
1- Fire Eel
10-Mascara Barb
7- Giant Danio
10- SAE
40-50 Sterbai Cories
2- BN Plecos
2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
Lighting
BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
Aquarium Filter Type
55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
Aquarium #2 Size
300 Gallon pond
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
whatever it is outside
Tank #2 Filter Type
giant fountain/filter thing (pondmaster)
Aquarium #3 Size
110g
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
sump
I have only used the python but I am impressed with the thickness and flexibility of the hose, the fittings on it also seem very sturdy. Mine also came with a brass adapter to thread into the faucet in place of the aerator which I have read is a big breaking point with the aqueons. The shutoff for the siphon is conveniently located should you inadvertantly suck up an inhabitant, I also have found that you can clean sand really well with it if you adjust the valve down until its almost able to pull the sand all the way up the cleaning tube but falls back down.

Mine neatly coils and uncoils each time I use it as well, all in all I'm very happy with it.
 

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Here is the page:



P.S. This one has a hole-punched cap for the bottom to keep from sand from siphoning into the tubing.
 
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College student
Quarantine?
Yes
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
Prime with each water change

API Master Test Kit
Experience
3 years
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
10 gallon
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Thanks for the info guys So far it looks like it's neck-and-neck!
 

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Male
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Quarantine?
10 gallon
List any water conditioners and test kits used:
API freshwater master kit
Seachem Prime
Seachem Safe
Experience
Just started
Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
Yes
Aquarium Size
210 G
Aquarium Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
3- Angelfish (2M-1F)
1-EBJD
1-Peruvian Severum
5-Bolivian Rams
1- Fire Eel
10-Mascara Barb
7- Giant Danio
10- SAE
40-50 Sterbai Cories
2- BN Plecos
2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
Lighting
BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
Aquarium Filter Type
55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
Aquarium #2 Size
300 Gallon pond
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
whatever it is outside
Tank #2 Filter Type
giant fountain/filter thing (pondmaster)
Aquarium #3 Size
110g
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
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I really think it's a matter of preference on the Vac's. I've actually read a lot of good reviews on all of them. So, whichever you choose, happy fish tank cleaning!
 
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Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
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Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
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Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
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Freshwater Planted Tank
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Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
I didn't know it was possible to have a preference on water vacs I want one that takes the water out and puts clean water back in

I forgot about that thread, thanks Matt
 

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0
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20
Temperature
78-80f
pH
n/a
Lighting
bulb in hood lol
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n/a
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20gal
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Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Guppy colony. Undetermined amount of fry and 2 adult females.
Tank #2 Start Date
8/4/12
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
30
Tank #2 Temperature
78-80
Tank #2 pH
7.6
Tank #2 Lighting
LED
Tank #2 Filter Type
Top Fin 20, Tetra Whisper 20
Aquarium #3 Size
5gal
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Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
1 f Betta named Reba
Tank #3 Start Date
3+months
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
20
Tank #3 Temperature
80
Tank #3 Filter Type
cartridge filter that came w the tank
I too used the bucket method for wayyyy too long. Still have to on my smaller tanks. But for my 55 and 60 I now have the Aqueon 25'. I LOVE it. However like mentioned above, it does have a plastic sink adapter. Which I do struggle with to get it to screw on correctly. But other than that it works perfectly.

I like how it has a little bit shorter vacuum part to it. It makes it much easier to disinfect in between the two tanks. Because it fits well in a standard sized bucket (3 gal).

I would but mine again. If I had to. Good luck!
 

Janet Webster

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Java Fern, Amazon Sword, Anubius Nana, Crypts, Wendti
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July 13, 2012
Ammonia
0
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0
Nitrate
~20
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76
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AquaTech 20-40
I have the 25' Aqueon, and it is a bit fussy to get the plastic adapter threaded right, but I haven't used the other so I have no comparison. It's just way better than buckets, and I got it on sale, so I went with the price point. The hose was a bit short, but a 99 cent adapter from the local hardware store and and additional 20 ft of hose took care if it for about $8, vs the extra $20 it would have cost for the 50' Aqueon. Water changes aren't a chore anymore!
 

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3 Black Neon Tetra, 3 Neon Tetra, 2 Nerite Snail, MTS, Water Wisteria, Java Fern, Ludwigia repens
Aquarium Start Date
March 2012
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
20
Temperature
79
pH
8.2
Lighting
T8 - 14w full spectrum
Aquarium Filter Type
Marina S15
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65 Gallon Bowfront
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Freshwater Planted Tank
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7 Black Phantom Tetra, 6 Cardinal Tetra, 5 Peppered Cory, 2 GBR, 2 BN Pleco, MTS, Nerite Snails, Water Wisteria, Anubias Nana Petite, Brazilian Pennywort, Java Fern, Ludwigia Palustris, Cryptocoryne Wendtii, Hygrophilia Polysperma, Hygrophila Angustifolia, Jungle Val, Driftwood.
Pressurized CO2.
Tank #2 Start Date
12/09/2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
15
Tank #2 Temperature
81
Tank #2 pH
6.9
Tank #2 Lighting
2x39W T5HO (1x6700k and 1x5000k)
Tank #2 Filter Type
Fluval 305
I've recently started using the aqueon. I went for based upon the fact that you can pick up parts at any petco/petsmart. I haven't had any issues with the plastic adapter threading.
I cut down the hose to get rid of excess, which leads to a better syphon.
 
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Thanks for your opinions guys! It sounds like no matter what we get, we definitely shouldn't be using buckets anymore
 

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I own and have used both and hands down the Python is much better made. I have a ton of water pressure and flow and the Python takes it. The aqueon has broke twice and had the hose pop out of the fittings. And with the Python's valve NOT located directly on the gravel tube it is much less disruptive when refilling.

$10 difference? When I bought my Aqueon for like $35 the Python was twice as much.
 
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Well they seem to be pretty evenly matched in that there are people who voted for both. We were at PetCo and they said they'd match the online price, so we decided to get the Aqueon.

For people who have one: it started up fine, but when I removed the siphon and put it back in the water, it lost suction and I had to manually (IE using good old fashioned gravity) drain the tube, and then the suction was back immediately. Has anyone else experienced this?
 

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1- Fire Eel
10-Mascara Barb
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40-50 Sterbai Cories
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2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
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0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
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BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
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55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
Aquarium #2 Size
300 Gallon pond
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Freshwater Planted Tank
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8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
whatever it is outside
Tank #2 Filter Type
giant fountain/filter thing (pondmaster)
Aquarium #3 Size
110g
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Freshwater Planted Tank
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10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
sump
I haven't had it happen but maybe turn your faucet on all the way to create more pull. Make sure your drains are running well too so you don't walk back in to having overflowed the basin.
 

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I break the stopper so that I can pull it out of the sink for a water change. I found it a HUGE pain to always be worried about overflowing the sink.
 

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Aquarium Size
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Aquarium Type
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3- Angelfish (2M-1F)
1-EBJD
1-Peruvian Severum
5-Bolivian Rams
1- Fire Eel
10-Mascara Barb
7- Giant Danio
10- SAE
40-50 Sterbai Cories
2- BN Plecos
2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
Lighting
BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
Aquarium Filter Type
55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
Aquarium #2 Size
300 Gallon pond
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
whatever it is outside
Tank #2 Filter Type
giant fountain/filter thing (pondmaster)
Aquarium #3 Size
110g
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
sump
I think of it from a plumbers perspective, ie clean the drain. But breaking the stopper is also a solution. You can also disconnect it from underneath the sink and just set it back in the drain, no breaking required.
 

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Haha, I didn't think about looking for a way to disconnect it after I overflowed the sink. Breaking it seemed like the best solution at the time
 
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Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
The faucet was on all the way, but it isn't the most powerful faucet.
 

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Aquarium Type
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3- Angelfish (2M-1F)
1-EBJD
1-Peruvian Severum
5-Bolivian Rams
1- Fire Eel
10-Mascara Barb
7- Giant Danio
10- SAE
40-50 Sterbai Cories
2- BN Plecos
2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
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0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
Lighting
BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
Aquarium Filter Type
55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
Aquarium #2 Size
300 Gallon pond
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
0
Tank #2 Temperature
whatever it is outside
Tank #2 Filter Type
giant fountain/filter thing (pondmaster)
Aquarium #3 Size
110g
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
sump
The only other thing I can think of is if a ton of air got into it at once. Maybe try submerging the tube open end up so it completely fills with water before the siphon begins.

Should've got the Python.
Sorry! Couldn't resist!
 
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
There are so many advocates of both, I figured I'd be disappointing people no matter what I got

It started fine at the beginning, but once I pulled it out and air got in, the suction stopped. Is that something would happen with any water changer?
 

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Do you know of and understand the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle?
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Ammonia
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Tank #2 Type
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I never used the siphon thing. I either let it drain in the bathtub or out the side door of the house. Didn't want to waste the water

The only time I ever used the siphon was to prime the hose with tank water before I started filling...So it didn't blow a bunch of air in the tank, as well as keep air out of the gravel tube so it would be less disruptive with the water/air turbulance.
 
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Prime with each water change

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10 gallon
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Sure, I'll just spend even more money I guess I'll just have to not lose the suction once it starts.
 

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Get a pump

Same thing I though about.

I use these to mump water from my mix vessels.

They have suction cups to attached to the glass and come with different output fittings to fit any hose.

The old ones came with a 20' cord. The new ones are only 6'.
 

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Did you try inverting the tube after it's been submerged?


I'd love to know how that pump will add beauty to an aquarium....
 

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I'd love to know how that pump will add beauty to an aquarium....

I see that. I hear Petsmart is going to start selling a replica pond pump in the fish decoration section. Should be all the rage. LOL
 

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7- Giant Danio
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40-50 Sterbai Cories
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2- Swordtails
Aquarium Start Date
2014
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
0
Nitrate
5-10
Temperature
80 f
pH
7.4
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BML 13k Fish focus blue x 1 / Finnex planted plus 48" x 1
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55 gallon sump/k1 moving bed
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300 Gallon pond
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Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
8 Comets, pond lillies, alot of algae.
Tank #2 Start Date
spring 2010
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0
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0
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whatever it is outside
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110g
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10 Congo Tetra's, 8 Sterbai Cory, Albino BN ,MTS, mystery snails and Angelfish

Hornwort, Christmas moss, Java fern, Cabomba Caroliniana & Furcata, Plagiomnium affine, Anubias Nana
Tank #3 Start Date
8/2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #3 Temperature
79 F
Tank #3 pH
7.6
Tank #3 Lighting
Odyssea Dual T5HO 48"
Tank #3 Filter Type
sump
I think you're supposed to hook it up to a miniature wacky arm waving inflatable tube man

I can't help but laugh every time I see one of those things!!

As far as the water changer goes, you can also shut the faucet off once the siphon begins as long as the sink is lower than the tank to avoid wasting water. Also, like Jaysee said, if you lose suction try turning the cleaning tube open end up to let the air out.
 
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Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
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5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
I can get it started again, I guess I just thought that I'd be able to take it out and put it back in without losing suction. No big deal Not sure how I'll switch sides of the tank though...
 

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Not sure how I'll switch sides of the tank though...

Just close the valve on the gravel tube and switch sides, then open it again.
 
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Aquarium Type
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Fish: one betta

Plants: dwarf sag, java fern, anubias nana, anubias congensis, anubias afzelii, banana plant, corkscrew val, wisteria, ludwigia
Aquarium Start Date
10/6/12
Ammonia
0
Nitrite
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Nitrate
5
Temperature
80-82F
pH
7.2
Lighting
Fluorescent
Aquarium Filter Type
Top Fin 10G HOB
Aquarium #2 Size
55 gallon
Tank #2 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #2 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish:
(2 angels soon)
2 female GBRs
1 female BN pleco
6 platys
7 rainbows
8 neons
assassin snails

Plants:
Java fern, Italian val, cabomba, wisteria, anubias coffeefolia, anubias afzelii, cardinal plants, ludwigia, Mexican oak, dwarf chain swords, crypt spiralis
Tank #2 Start Date
early March 2012
Tank #2 Ammonia
0
Tank #2 Nitrite
0
Tank #2 Nitrate
10-20
Tank #2 Temperature
78F
Tank #2 pH
7.2
Tank #2 Lighting
2x 54W T5HOs, 5 hours daily
Tank #2 Filter Type
Aquatop cf-400UV canister
Aquarium #3 Size
20 gallons
Tank #3 Type
Freshwater Planted Tank
Tank #3 Fish, Plants, Inverts, etc.
Fish: 1 male dwarf gourami (Ernesto), 5 endlers (soon to be 15), 2 cories (Stumpy and Spike), many RCS, a few nerites (Mr Snail, Bolt)

Plants: Anubias nana, java fern, cardinal plants, rosette sword, water sprite, banana plant, dwarf sag
Tank #3 Start Date
late September 2012
Tank #3 Ammonia
0
Tank #3 Nitrite
0
Tank #3 Nitrate
5
Tank #3 Temperature
78
Tank #3 pH
7.2
Tank #3 Lighting
Fluorescent
Tank #3 Filter Type
AquaClear 50
Ooh that would be the obvious way Thanks!
 
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