Saltwater Baths for Betta?

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Hello, I just received a young female betta from someone rehoming her a few hours ago and she has some fin rot that's progressed uncomfortably close to her body. She was being treated with API Fin rot and body cure but no changes; I suspect this is because she was in a small, unheated and unfiltered tank to begin with.

I am adding her to my 5.5gal planted tank that's been up for almost a year now and has a stable cycle. I would like help with treatment for her that will be safe for my tank.

In my tank I have an assassin snail and a few freshwater plants, so I'd like to avoid adding salt directly into the tank and any medications that are unsafe for invertebrates (gotta protect little A*sman the snail!).

Previously I've heard about short, 30-60 minute saltwater Baths to help issues like finrot. Is this a viable option to do for her? If so, how can I safely do this?

I'm aware that just good water quality and a low-stress environment can fix fin rot, I'm only concerned because it's already nearly reaching her body in some places, so I want to stop the progression as quickly as possible.

Thanks guys!
 

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Hi,

You could set up an aquarium salt bath for your new betta. I've not had a problem giving salt baths to my bettas when they needed them. I just use a clean container, like a small plastic tote or even a disposable plastic container never used for anything before, fill it with heated, treated tank water, dissolve the aquarium salt completley into the bath first, and then carefully place the betta in the bath. I avoid using fish nets because they can cause some fin damage if you aren't careful. I usually scoop my bettas up in a clean plastic container or a glass with a large opening. Sometimes, if you hold the container/glass horizontally in the water and wait patiently, they will swim right in it, lol! Make sure that you put the container in a warm place. You don't want her getting too cold, and if you leave her in for an hour, then she may very well end up getting too cold which is stressful. I usually do a 20 minute bath, but you can try 30 minutes as long as you keep a close eye on her and the temp of the bath.

I also use methylene blue for fin and body issues. If you are comfortable handling her, you can use a small medicine dropper, and put the MB directly on the affected fin area full strength. Bettas tolerate it really well. You just have to be careful because methylene blue stains everything it touches. You can also add MB to the aquarium salt bath, if you like.

I always avoid using any OTC antibiotic unless it is as a very last resort. If you add the API Fin and Body Cure to the cycled tank, it can kill off your beneficial bacteria and kill the cycle, so you are right not to do that. I think that the doxycycline in Fin and Body cure is not as effective against gram negative bacteria (according to some things I have read), which may be the type of bacteria that is causing the problem. If you want to continue the antibiotic treatment, you could try Kanaplex by Seachem, which might work better against gram negative bacteria. But again, it can kill your cycle, and you wouldn't want to use any antibiotic in a cycled tank with your snail and plants.

For what it's worth, I think the aquarium salt and MB treatments along with super clean water are better choices.

Hope this helps! :)
 

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Hi,

You could set up an aquarium salt bath for your new betta. I've not had a problem giving salt baths to my bettas when they needed them. I just use a clean container, like a small plastic tote or even a disposable plastic container never used for anything before, fill it with heated, treated tank water, dissolve the aquarium salt completley into the bath first, and then carefully place the betta in the bath. I avoid using fish nets because they can cause some fin damage if you aren't careful. I usually scoop my bettas up in a clean plastic container or a glass with a large opening. Sometimes, if you hold the container/glass horizontally in the water and wait patiently, they will swim right in it, lol! Make sure that you put the container in a warm place. You don't want her getting too cold, and if you leave her in for an hour, then she may very well end up getting too cold which is stressful. I usually do a 20 minute bath, but you can try 30 minutes as long as you keep a close eye on her and the temp of the bath.

I also use methylene blue for fin and body issues. If you are comfortable handling her, you can use a small medicine dropper, and put the MB directly on the affected fin area full strength. Bettas tolerate it really well. You just have to be careful because methylene blue stains everything it touches. You can also add MB to the aquarium salt bath, if you like.

I always avoid using any OTC antibiotic unless it is as a very last resort. If you add the API Fin and Body Cure to the cycled tank, it can kill off your beneficial bacteria and kill the cycle, so you are right not to do that. I think that the doxycycline in Fin and Body cure is not as effective against gram negative bacteria (according to some things I have read), which may be the type of bacteria that is causing the problem. If you want to continue the antibiotic treatment, you could try Kanaplex by Seachem, which might work better against gram negative bacteria. But again, it can kill your cycle, and you wouldn't want to use any antibiotic in a cycled tank with your snail and plants.

For what it's worth, I think the aquarium salt and MB treatments along with super clean water are better choices.

Hope this helps! :)
Thank you so much Rose! I will go ahead and get some MB to use during the salt baths. Do you happen to know a safe dosage of salt? I've heard 1TBPS per 5 gallons but that feels quite diluted, no?

I will start doing baths and just float her in the cup in the tank to avoid temperature changes. The poor girl is much more stressed than I initially thought; she doesn't even want to eat :( Even my last betta was eating while he was being put to sleep, so I know she's really going through it. She also appears to be a genuine baby, she is so so small. Fingers crossed she makes it through this.

I have attempted to attach a photo but last time it didn't work.
 

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Hi,

Glad you attached a pic! She really doesn't look too bad. I guess I was envisioning something much worse. I don't even know if that is really fin rot, but maybe due to an injury? Is that was translucent re-growth at the top of the caudal fin? If so, then she is already healing. The re-growth comes in like that, and it will get better and stronger over time.

If you want to do a few aquarium salt baths with nothing else added to it, I would do a half of a tablespoon of dissolved aquarium salt to a gallon of heated, treated tank water. If you see that it causes her to have a bad stress reaction, take her out right away. By stress reaction, I mean that she poops in the bath or she swims frantically or starts breathing very heavily. If she seems ok, leave her in for 20 minutes. If the baths stress her out a bit, then maybe do one every three days for a couple of weeks. If the baths stress her out a lot, then maybe skip them, and just do daily water changes, while watching for re-growth.

Food is her friend in that her immune system needs to be boosted and going strong in order to stave off infection while this is happening. I don't think you mentioned what you were feeding her, but frozen foods are great if you can get them. If not, then good high quailty pellets soaked in some garlic juice might entice her to eat. Also, Vitachem by Boyd Enterprises can help a lot. I soak betta pellets in that stuff all the time, and I also add it to the tank when I do water changes.

Please keep me updated on her progress! She looks like a sweet little girl! :)
 
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Hi,

Glad you attached a pic! She really doesn't look too bad. I guess I was envisioning something much worse. I don't even know if that is really fin rot, but maybe due to an injury? Is that was translucent re-growth at the top of the caudal fin? If so, then she is already healing. The re-growth comes in like that, and it will get better and stronger over time.

If you want to do a few aquarium salt baths with nothing else added to it, I would do a half of a tablespoon of dissolved aquarium salt to a gallon of heated, treated tank water. If you see that it causes her to have a bad stress reaction, take her out right away. By stress reaction, I mean that she poops in the bath or she swims frantically or starts breathing very heavily. If she seems ok, leave her in for 20 minutes. If the baths stress her out a bit, then maybe do one every three days for a couple of weeks. If the baths stress her out a lot, then maybe skip them, and just do daily water changes, while watching for re-growth.

Food is her friend in that her immune system needs to be boosted and going strong in order to stave off infection while this is happening. I don't think you mentioned what you were feeding her, but frozen foods are great if you can get them. If not, then good high quailty pellets soaked in some garlic juice might entice her to eat. Also, Vitachem by Boyd Enterprises can help a lot. I soak betta pellets in that stuff all the time, and I also add it to the tank when I do water changes.

Please keep me updated on her progress! She looks like a sweet little girl! :)
The pictures don't do it justice, it's much worse than it looks Most of her fins are degrading close to her body, and when I got her, her dorsal was mostly okay but today it's almost entirely gone. She also has a secondary fungal infection starting on her back but luckily after the first salt bath yesterday that's mostly gone.

I did one bath yesterday but I definitely did too much salt because she started freaking out and swimming frantically once I added the second half. Today I did another one at 1/3 tps for the amount of water in a pet store betta cup and she was comfortable in that. She sat comfortably for 45 minutes in it before I returned her to her tank.

Good news, she's eating! I ordered some methylene blue and it will get here today. I also boiled some catappa leaves and added that water + the leaves once it cooled down. We are on the up and up now. Fingers crossed she continues to recover!

I'll post again if she starts going back downhill. She was feeling so bad she wouldn't eat and would barely move at first. Lethargic and not reacting to stimuli. I'm praying for this little one; she's adorable and I already love her!

Thank you again Sharon for replying! You've been incredibly helpful!
 

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