Would This Work? Amphibians And Fish Together

By no means am I actually going to do this without answers first but I was so curious so I just wanted to ask this question...

Would amphibians and fish be able to live together?

I have a Sierran Tree Frog, he lives in a 20 gallon long...and like I said this is just hypothetical but would it actually work to have fish on one side of the aquarium and frog on the other? Like half-water half-land?

I would love your opinions on this. I just got super curious and I know this forum has amphibian/reptile people too!

 

Not sure on your frog but many have vivariums with both .What does he eat ?
I am working on mine [dragging my feet] but haven't added any reptiles or amphibibians yet , just fish so far.

 

Vivarium kits are pretty common nowadays. I saw one in Petsmart, actually. There are more sophisticated kits sold by ADA and another company that I can't recall the name of right now.

 

Not sure on your frog but many have vivariums with both .What does he eat ?
I am working on mine [dragging my feet] but haven't added any reptiles or amphibibians yet , just fish so far.

Mostly crickets but sometimes other insects and bugs.
If there was a seperator that was raised the crickets wouldnt be able to get into the water, they used to get into the frog's water dish and drown (but now he has a 1/2 gallon container for water that they can't get into)

 

You could get a fish that would eat the crickets!

I have seen this done and it is pretty cool. The more components, the more things can go wrong. It is harder than keeping just fish or just frogs but its certainly doable.

 

In a more natural set up the crickets could easily get out of water ,or be eaten by fish !
Making it so any creature [your frog] can get out of water is important in multI creature set ups.
Branches or even a 'beach' where land/sand/gravel came out of water would solve that problem.

 

Thanks for all your feedback!

What kind of fish actually eat insects? It would have to be a large-ish fish because my frog will eat basically anything that moves and fits in his mouth.

One more question...would the frog introduce any kind of bad bacteria into the water?
He isn't an aquatic frog but really likes chilling in water.

 

Butterfly fish are surface feeders who might be interested in crickets .They are hard to keep though IMO.
I kept a chinese water dragon above a clown knife for years .No issues and the lizard pooped in the water regularly .
That is the set up I am working with now .
A good filter and maintenance are a must IMO as much as any other aquarium.

 

I am guessing the filter would have to account for the poop of the frog as well as the fish.

I hope you keep us updated if you decide to do this!

 

Thanks for your advice! It would be really cool to do this!

So here is another question, would small bottom feeders like plecos or some kind of cory cat work? Or maybe a honey or dwarf gourami?

Still don't know if I'm doing this or not but I'm the kind of person who asks a lot of questions!

 

Hmm, I think first steps would be to consider how big (hypothetically) the water portion would be.

As a disclaimer, i’ve never done this before so i’m only asking questions and giving thoughtful advice.

It would be pretty cool to have a school of cory cats if there was enough space! I imagine they wouldn’t clash with the frog since they will stick to the bottom.

 

I did it with a snapping turtle and minnows in a 55. It was pretty cool. I used an in tank filter which one I can't remember and had to keep up on the water changes. I stacked rocks on the one side so the turtle could get out of the water.

 

Hmm, I think first steps would be to consider how big (hypothetically) the water portion would be.

Yes, I wasn't sure if I would have to put the water portion on the front of the tank, making it longer (which I know corydoras like), or making it shorter but deeper on the side. (which would be better for some other kind of fish)
I could always raise the soil a bit so this would allow there to be deeper water. I think I could fit in about 5-8 gallons in there, which, sadly is not enough for cories.

It would be pretty cool to have a school of cory cats if there was enough space! I imagine they wouldn’t clash with the frog since they will stick to the bottom.

Bottom feeders seem really appealing. The frog never goes to the bottom of his water and just stays on the little leaf hammock right above.

Walter (the frog) is actually a wild-caught chorus frog, (we have had him since he was a tadpole, my sister got him for me) and that brings me to think, could he be able to spread diseases to aquarium fish?
He's been in captivity for over 1 year now so I wonder if it would still be a possibility.

Thanks so much guys

 

I think what you are thinking about is a pauladarium

 

I think what you are thinking about is a pauladarium

Exactly!

 

So I pushed back the soil in the tank and added some white sand, even though I pushed it back really far its still not really deep at all so I think I will have the water run at the front of the tank, and maybe on the side too.
If I had it running along the side and front would this be enough room for cories? I know they like long, shallow waters.

I have to go to the pet store to get some more white sand and an internal filter, I don't know yet if I'm actually putting fish in here but if I do I hope cories would be good.

 

This is the tank so far.

 

Have you watched any diy videos on palidariums? From what I’ve seen the normally use a small section of pond liner to keep the water in place. Or use a false bottom. Idk if this approach would work?

 

Yes I saw a lot of videos and I tried it for myself.

The water was getting super muddy with the soil, even though I added a lot of sand... I added a coroplast seperator, but water still got through it and it seeped all the way through and under the dry soil and everything got super wet, I was afraid it would just stay like that and it was getting so saturated...the water was basically mud now and I had to dump it out, sadly.
The water space was pretty small too and I probably couldn't house much in there.

I could always try again and maybe use the pond liner next time, that would be a lot better!

 

I stack rocks and such to make high ground then cover it with gravel..