Would A Adf Work In This Tank?

I saw a 3 Gallon Cylinder tank at Petsmart on sale today and was wondering if I got it, if I could get a ADF or two. I have had a ADF before(Before I learned about Fishlore) but didn't know how to care for it so I want to care for this one correctly. The tank has a 8" Diameter and is 12" tall. I would have an Anubias or two, A Terra-Cotta pot per frog, and 3-4" of sand. I have read up on care and know how to take care of them but no website will agree on a tank size for 1-2 frogs and how high up the tank has to be. I have a old heater and Filter that would work for this tank and only need the tank, substrate and the frogs. Thanks in Advance.

 

I don't think the tank is big enough for an ADF.

 

HI Lance
While 3 gallons would be enough for one frog, a cylinder tank isn't a good option, imo.
They prefer a longer foot print than hat tank would allow.. The tank is 8" round but the actual horizontal swim space would be much less.

 

Turns out the tank is 10" if it helps. So one frog might work but wouldn't be happy? If frogs can't work I won't get the tank.

 

I wouldn't get the tank. Cynlinder and hexagon tanks are hard to stock.

 

Could a ADF work with my Betta in my 5 Gallon(20"x 7"x 10")? Heres a pic of the tank(The plants are larger now)-

5 Gallon Planted

• Lance0414
• Jan 3, 2018

 

I wouldn't. ADFs can bite betta's fins.

 

If I did get the 3 Gallon what would work? I was wanting an amphibian but any fish that would work that I like and I might get the tank.

 

Shrimp would be an awesome choice. There are many colors of Neocaridina available.

 

Shrimp would be an awesome choice. There are many colors of Neocaridina available.

The one problem with them is I have to drive 30 miles to get them, the only shrimp that I can get nearby are Ghost Shrimp and I plan on doing them in my 24. Would a CPO Dwarf Mexican Crayfish work or a Guppy or two? I have a Tetra 3-10I and a Topfin Betta Heater(~5 Watts)(From my old 2.5 Gallon).

 

Ha I wish I only had to drive 30 miles! I'm driving 87 miles one way tomorrow for shrimp and a fish meeting

I think a single CPO could work in this tank.

 

So decided not to get the 3 Gallon as it is no longer on sale so instead I think I will just get another 2.5(I would use the other but the reason I don't use it is it has a leak) and put the Crayfish in it. The tank is 12"x 6"x 8".

 

Went ahead and got the tank and plan on putting sand in it, plants(Marimo Moss Balls, Anubias, and Java Moss), and a Terra Cotta Pot or two. So now I am trying to decide if I want a Crayfish tank, a shrimp tank, another Betta(Most likely Female), or if one would fit, an ADF. Also, what hood + lighting would you recommend for this small of a tank?

 

A regular crayfish will get too big, but a dwarf cray might be fine. I'm not sure though, I haven't kept them or read much about them.

I might save the ADF for a slightly bigger tank.

I use a glass lid with a dome work light on my 2.5 gal.

 

I have read Dwarf Mexican Crayfish need a 12" tank minimum for 1-2 Crayfish, I will only get one if I get them. On Seriously Fish it states Pea Puffers have a minimum tank size of 2 Gallons, so would a single Puffer work instead?

 

I wouldn't keep a pea puffer. They are messy and need plenty of room to explore, and I don't think a 2.5 gal is big enough for either of those needs. I kept three in a 15 gal and had trouble. I dropped down to two and it was much better. I would say a 10 gal minimum for them, in my opinion.

 

So I got the Mexican Dwarf Crayfish and guess what, at the LFS it was kept with Norman Lampeye Killis. So I asked a employee how good of tank mates they are and he said that he rarely sees chasing and when he does the Lampeyes always get away. So I got 2 more Lampeyes and a Crayfish and they are all in the 10 Gallon, so far the Crayfish leaves everybody alone and he is active and exploring his new tank. I redid the tank so he has places to molt and hide and so the Gourami would have a place to rest. If the Crayfish causes trouble in the future I have the 2.5 as the backup plan.

Orange Mexican Dwarf Crayfish + Sparkling Gourami

• Lance0414
• Jan 24, 2018
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Got my Crayfish yesterday and this is what i woke up to, a Invert eating Fish, and a Fish eating...

10 Gallon, Rock Art

• Lance0414
• Jan 24, 2018

Dwarf Mexican Crayfish

• Lance0414
• Jan 24, 2018

 

It still wouldn't be worth the risk to me, and it's likely stressful to the lampeyes, even if the CPO doesn't actually get them. Remember that the employee is just trying to sell you fish, so he might just be telling you what you want to hear.

How many lampeyes do you have in there?

 

I have 8 Lampeyes and 1 Sparkling Gourami, I went there to get 2 more Lampeyes and a mate for my Gourami but sadly they only had the Lampeyes. The LFS I went to is family owned and breed and raise all their fish.

 

They breed all of their fish? That is very unusual. But they still need to sell fish and make a profit, so I would still be wary of stocking advice when it involves you buying fish from them.

 

My stock was approved be Anders247 and DHIWZ (Not the Crayfish though, I was going to do Shrimp but turns out the Gourami eats anything that is smaller than himself).

 

Right, and that's what I would be worried about.

 

So right now I believe the Crayfish is molting, he has only come out to eat and I am seeing tiny orange pieces everywhere, which I read meant it was molting. The Gourami is the same size as the Crayfish and doesn't bother it.

 

I'd be worried about the cray messing with the fish.

 

I have the 2.5 setup so that as soon as I see aggression I can put the Crayfish in there.

 

Why not just move him over now and avoid any issues?

 

Mainly because if I get rid of the 2.5 I "might" be able to upgrade the 10 to a 12-15. So far he only preys on Snails which is fine with me. I have heard other bottom dwellers(Plan on Ghost Shrimp) will act as differs.

 

I'm not sure that's the case, but I wouldn't risk my fish's lives just to keep a CPO in the tank. I hope it works out for you though.

 

They breed all of their fish? That is very unusual. But they still need to sell fish and make a profit, so I would still be wary of stocking advice when it involves you buying fish from them.

Not very unusual 3 LFS near me do it.

 

That is very unusual. Most LFS breed some (like the easier fish: livebearers and some cichlids), but order/import most others (rasboras, tetras, danios, WC fish, catfish, etc.).

 

That is very unusual. Most LFS breed some (like the easier fish: livebearers and some cichlids), but order/import most others (rasboras, tetras, danios, WC fish, catfish, etc.).

Mine breed stingrays, loaches (not khulis only exception), plecos, cichlids, Saltwater fish, gourami

 

Not that many species then, but good for them. Many of the more common loaches haven't been bred without the use of hormones, so if they can do that, they should write articles on it. Feel free to PM if you want to discuss it further. Let's not derail this thread further

 

Here's some pictures of the Crayfish, he has molted and is barely larger. He is now more active and will follow my finger through the glass, he even will climb the glass to the top of the tank then float down.

Dwarf Mexican Crayfish

• Lance0414
• Feb 2, 2018

Dwarf Mexican Crayfish

• Lance0414
• Feb 2, 2018

CPO Dwarf Mexican Crayfish

• Lance0414
• Feb 2, 2018

CPO Dwarf Mexican Crayfish

• Lance0414
• Feb 2, 2018

I have a Spider of a Crayfish

 

cool!

 

So off topic question, would a 12 Gallon Mr. Aqua be able to hold my Betta and the inhabitants of the 10 Gallon. I believe it is 35"x 8"x 9", I started a thread about if a 24" tank could hold them and was answered yes, so I figured a 35" would work better, I just don't know if the width would cause a problem or not.

 

Remind me of the full planned stock of your tank?

I have a 12 gal Mr. Aqua myself. It's a really nice length, but it's still short in height and width.

 

It would be my Male Betta, 2-4 Sparkling Gouramis(Have 1 in the 10, will get him a mate when I find him one), 8-12 Norman Lampeye Killifish and if my Crayfish is still placid by then him. But because this would technically be down grading(10 + 5 for a 12) I could put him in the 2.5.

 

I would definitely not mix the gouramis and the betta - that's asking for deaths, and I'm not sure I'd keep the betta with anything else. I wouldn't keep the crayfish with these fish in this tank - the tank is pretty short, and the fish will spend more time within his reach.