10 Gallon Tank Will This Filter Provide Enough Biological Media?

Bahewotab

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I bought a hang on back filter for my small 10 gallon aquarium . I have a hang on back filter which have only space for two carbon plates. Its been sometime I need to replace the carbon with sponge. But the place is small. It can fit two 2 inch width and may be 5 inch length sponge vertically. I want to know will it hold enough beneficial bacteria for a fully loaded aquarium or I need to buy a different filter with more sponge. I bought it because I thought It will not brake my glass while hanging loaded with water. Guys tell me what to do?
 

Brizburk

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Bahewotab said:
I bought a hang on back filter for my small 10 gallon aquarium . I have a hang on back filter which have only space for two carbon plates. Its been sometime I need to replace the carbon with sponge. But the place is small. It can fit two 2 inch width and may be 5 inch length sponge vertically. I want to know will it hold enough beneficial bacteria for a fully loaded aquarium or I need to buy a different filter with more sponge. I bought it because I thought It will not brake my glass while hanging loaded with water. Guys tell me what to do?
What kind of filter is it and how many gallons is it rated for? I'd suggest not using carbon, you can replace the carbon with other types of media.
 
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Bahewotab

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Brizburk said:
What kind of filter is it and how many gallons is it rated for? I'd suggest not using carbon, you can replace the carbon with other types of media.
It's for 20 gallons and 340l/hr flow rate
 

Brizburk

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Bahewotab said:
It's for 20 gallons and 340l/hr flow rate
I would think the filter is sufficient. I would replace the carbon with another type of media, a course sponge and a fine sponge would work. Just don't replace it all at once, doing so would kill your bb and cause you to loose your cycle. I stopped using HOBs so hopefully someone else can recommend what media to use, we all have our own ideas. I run canisters or sponge filters now. Much quieter
 
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Bahewotab

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Brizburk said:
I would think the filter is sufficient. I would replace the carbon with another type of media, a course sponge and a fine sponge would work. Just don't replace it all at once, doing so would kill your bb and cause you to loose your cycle. I stopped using HOBs so hopefully someone else can recommend what media to use, we all have our own ideas. I run canisters or sponge filters now. Much quieter
Thanks for the suggestion. How much sponge do I need to fill to hold the BB so that I do not fall short on biological filtration as the space is less.
 
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Cichlidude

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Bahewotab said:
It's for 20 gallons and 340l/hr flow rate
What exactly is the model of filter please?
 
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Bahewotab

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Cichlidude said:
What exactly is the model of filter please?
Here is a pic of it

jdhef said:
Welcome to FishLore! I hope you enjoy the site
Yeah sure. Thanks
 

Cichlidude

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OK, yeah that is the same as a Marina S10. I would suggest getting the Marina S20 for a 10 gallon, I have one of these also. You can customize that filter here.

 
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Bahewotab

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Cichlidude said:
OK, yeah that is the same as a Marina S10. I would suggest getting the Marina S20 for a 10 gallon, I have one of these also. You can customize that filter here.

Tried similar to it water flew over. so now I replaced only the carbon plates places with sponge and left others empty for the water to flow.
 

Cichlidude

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Bahewotab said:
Tried similar to it water flew over. so now I replaced only the carbon plates places with sponge and left others empty for the water to flow.
Here is even a better p-i-m-p my filter for your exact filter! Uses Seachem Matrix too!
 

mattgirl

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A HOB (hang on back) filter should not break the glass on an aquarium made for fish. If you have one made for reptiles the glass may be thinner but one made specifically for fish should be strong enough not to break so easily.

At one point in my fish keeping journey I had an aqua-tech 40/60 on a 10 gallon tank. It was almost as wide as the tank. It never even crossed my mind enough to be concerned about it breaking the glass.
 
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Bahewotab

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mattgirl said:
A HOB (hang on back) filter should not break the glass on an aquarium made for fish. If you have one made for reptiles the glass may be thinner but one made specifically for fish should be strong enough not to break so easily.

At one point in my fish keeping journey I had an aqua-tech 40/60 on a 10 gallon tank. It was almost as wide as the tank. It never even crossed my mind enough to be concerned about it breaking the glass.
As much as I like to admit that the glass would not break the sheer belief of the havoc of water in room if it brakes scares me. They are also making it thinner to make the green tint less obvious. Thanks again.
 

WTFish?

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Aside from the floss and/or sponge, I always throw in a plastic pot scrubbie too. They’re like 3 for $1.
 
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Bahewotab

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Cichlidude said:
Here is even a better p-i-m-p my filter for your exact filter! Uses Seachem Matrix too!
I appreciate your help. I have tried that and the water flow is decreased and lower/interior part of the filter does not get enough flow and oxygen(researched and came to know enough circulation and contact is required for the BB to grow) That's why I skipped the idea. Again can a small piece of sponge grow enough beneficial Bacteria if I cycle the tank for more days and then add the fish?

WTFish? said:
Aside from the floss and/or sponge, I always throw in a plastic pot scrubbie too. They’re like 3 for $1.
Do you plan for proper water flow through it like putting it in front of water outlet or just toss it to the bottom?
 

Cichlidude

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Bahewotab said:
I appreciate your help. I have tried that and the water flow is decreased and lower/interior part of the filter does not get enough flow and oxygen(researched and came to know enough circulation and contact is required for the BB to grow) That's why I skipped the idea. Again can a small piece of sponge grow enough beneficial Bacteria if I cycle the tank for more days and then add the fish?
If water is flowing through the entire filter, it is working. There is no reason why either of the 2 setups shown will not work. I have the Marina S20 with sponges in the first compartment and the other three full of 3 bags of Matrix. Worked just fine.
 

WTFish?

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Bahewotab said:
Do you plan for proper water flow through it like putting it in front of water outlet or just toss it to the bottom?
Well my fluval is set up differently than yours, it’s basically in the middle where the carbon use to be.
 
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Bahewotab

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WTFish? said:
Well my fluval is set up differently than yours, it’s basically in the middle where the carbon use to be.
Okay great.
 

mattgirl

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Bahewotab said:
I appreciate your help. I have tried that and the water flow is decreased and lower/interior part of the filter does not get enough flow and oxygen(researched and came to know enough circulation and contact is required for the BB to grow) That's why I skipped the idea. Again can a small piece of sponge grow enough beneficial Bacteria if I cycle the tank for more days and then add the fish?
Bacteria grows on every surface in the tank. A lot of it grows on the filter media. Bacteria tends to grow stronger where water is moving. I would think the colony of bacteria in the tank would be more abundant under the outflow of your HOB filter than it would be in the still part of the tank.

It is difficult to say whether or not one sponge will hold enough. A lot of that depends on what you stock this tank with. I did want to point out that water doesn't have to run through the filter media super fast. In fact slower is better. Slower gives the bacteria more time to process the ammonia and grow more bacteria.

Just for general information. How are you cycling this tank? I am assuming you are doing a fishless cycle. What is your ammonia source?
 
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Bahewotab

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mattgirl said:
Bacteria grows on every surface in the tank. A lot of it grows on the filter media. Bacteria tends to grow stronger where water is moving. I would think the colony of bacteria in the tank would be more abundant under the outflow of your HOB filter than it would be in the still part of the tank.

It is difficult to say whether or not one sponge will hold enough. A lot of that depends on what you stock this tank with. I did want to point out that water doesn't have to run through the filter media super fast. In fact slower is better. Slower gives the bacteria more time to process the ammonia and grow more bacteria.

Just for general information. How are you cycling this tank? I am assuming you are doing a fishless cycle. What is your ammonia source?
Its fish less cycle and I am dropping expired fish food. You said you had a 10 gallon tank. Can I know the glass thickness of the tank?
 

mattgirl

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Bahewotab said:
Its fish less cycle and I am dropping expired fish food. You said you had a 10 gallon tank. Can I know the glass thickness of the tank?
I no longer have the 10 gallon tank. It was the one I started many many years ago. I do have a 5.5 gallon though. The glass is 1/8th of an inch thick. Right now I am running a sponge filter in it but at times through the years I have had HOB filters on it made for much bigger tanks.

Fish food will work but it is difficult to control the amount of ammonia produced since you have to wait for it to decompose to form ammonia. You could control the amount of ammonia easier if you used pure ammonia. Personally I would find fish food too messy to suit me but if it is working for you it should help feed the cycle.


edited to add: The glass on my 55 gallon is 3/16th of an inch. I run 2 hob filters on it.
 

Cichlidude

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Bahewotab said:
Its fish less cycle and I am dropping expired fish food. You said you had a 10 gallon tank. Can I know the glass thickness of the tank?
I just measured my 10 gallon. It is 1/8" inch thick.

mattgirl said:
edited to add: The glass on my 55 gallon is 3/16th of an inch. I run 2 hob filters on it.
FYI, my 75 gallon is 1/4" thick.
 
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Bahewotab

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mattgirl said:
I no longer have the 10 gallon tank. It was the one I started many many years ago. I do have a 5.5 gallon though. The glass is 1/8th of an inch thick. Right now I am running a sponge filter in it but at times through the years I have had HOB filters on it made for much bigger tanks.

Fish food will work but it is difficult to control the amount of ammonia produced since you have to wait for it to decompose to form ammonia. You could control the amount of ammonia easier if you used pure ammonia. Personally I would find fish food too messy to suit me but if it is working for you it should help feed the cycle.


edited to add: The glass on my 55 gallon is 3/16th of an inch. I run 2 hob filters on it.
your glass seems to be very tough. I calculated and 3/16th of an inch is actually 4.7mm. I thought it would need more than 8mm of glass.

Cichlidude said:
FYI, my 75 gallon is 1/4" thick.
It definitely gives me some reassurance.
 

mattgirl

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The glass in most tanks is tempered glass so is much stronger than say, a window pane so doesn't have to be as thick as you would think.
 

Elbe

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The litres per hour when it comes to filtration is not relevant in terms of producing good bacteria. If you have a 100 gallon tank and use a filter which suits a 50 gallon tank then it will be fine at cooing with 1 fish. If you have a 10 gallon tank and the filter says it’s good for that size and you out 15 fish in there then it will not be sufficient. Filters should be sold by how much waste they can manage which they could easily calculate.
 

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