Will this be a good home for a Betta?

Nancy Drew

Member
Remembering Jerry, and moving on

Hi, my kids and I are starting a tank and we have decided to get a Betta fish. We set up the tank last night (OK, *I* set the tank up and they watched me ) and are waiting to cycle it before getting a Betta.

We didn't set it up with a Betta in mind, though, we had planned to just get some random fish but after reading I realized the tank wasn't big enough for most fish communities. We have a 5 gallon hex, and from what I've read it should be a good home for a Betta. I just don't know if we have set it up well for one. Does a Betta need more hiding places than this? I know the plants will grow, so that will help, but should I buy a bigger plant now so it is there? I am getting a thermometer today, and a small heater too. Again, I didn't think we were getting a Betta when I bought things, so I didn't buy those.

Any suggestions are welcome. I also plan to get a test kit so I have some idea about what's going on in the cycle.

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Shawnie

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welcome to fishlore!!

It looks like a fabooo tank for a betta ...and congrats on a fishless cycle!! just keep an eye on the baby for a bit as when they come from a cup (if you get one that way) they aren't very strong swimmers for a couple weeks...if you find him/her struggling, just lower the water for a lil bit of time otherwise, goodluck finding (or he/she will find you!) your new addition!
 

firemouthfreak

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Looks great! I'm pretty sure your betta will be fine with a 5gallon, but consider upgrading to a 10 gallon, he'll love it much more in a 10 gallon

Oh and Welcome to Fishlore!
 

Shawnie

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my bettas love their 3 and 5 gallon tanks just fine I don't think an upgrade is needed
 

Tigerlily

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Welcome! That looks like a lovely tank for a betta.
 

JRDroid

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I keep bettas in 2.5 gallon tanks and they are happy. I agree with shawnie that no upgrade is needed. A betta would be very happy in that tank. Betta's are very fun and have a lot of personality, I think you and your kids will enjoy having one a lot. Just be careful, fish tanks are addictive. I started with a betta last august and now I have a newly cycled 55 gallon sitting in my living room.
 

firemouthfreak

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Consider this, Fish like lots of room, an upgrade would be nice for the Betta, as I keep mine in a 10 gallon and he gets a lot more swimming space than he does in a 5 gallon.
 
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Nancy Drew

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Thanks everyone For now this will be all we can manage, tank-wise, but believe me I am already envious of those of you with larger tanks. I'll probably always have a little tank envy .

Another question, I posted pretty much this same post on another forum (I thought maybe no one would be around on a holiday weekend) and someone suggested that the kitchen, where the tank is, might not be the best place because the noise and activity might scare the betta. I chose the kitchen area (the tank is actually on the pass-through/breakfast bar) because that's the easiest place for us to access, least likely spot for it to get pushed over, etc. I spend a lot of time in the kitchen and dining room, as do my kids, so I figured the fish would have lots of opportunity for interaction. I don't have any appliances near the tank, and it isn't like we are a loud and boisterous bunch. Just me and 2 kids (and 3 cats, that's another story!!!). So does it sound like this will be OK?
 

ppate1977

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I don't think placement will be an issue, just watch the betta's behavior. I also see no need for anything larger than a 5gal for a betta. Tank looks great.
 

Charlemagne

Member
Welcome to Fish Lore! That looks like an AWESOME home for your betta! I'm so glad you researched and found out the tank size requirements and about the nitrogen cycle! Congratulations!!!
 

Tigerlily

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I've got three betta tanks (four bettas, one oto) in my kitchen They seem to enjoy the activity and usually watch me whenever I'm nearby... "pellet hope" dies hard for a betta, no matter how well fed they are. LOL
 

GoGreen

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Your tank looks great, I think a betta would be very happy in there. Bettas love to be the center of attention (at least mine sure does) so your location sounds good. I have mine in the kitchen also, that is where he gets seen the most. Of course, it also means we have to resist a lot of begging....
 

Akari_32

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yeah, Betta's are like scaley puppies XD don't fall for the puppy eyes! its the worst thing for them lol. they like all kindas of food tho, like brine shrimp and fry (guppies is what mine gets, the luck little boy) and pellets and tropical and betta flakes. just remember they only need a couple of bite to fill up =)
 

jerilovesfrogs

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hi, I have that same tank with a hmpk male in it. which means he a plakat type of betta, with a short tail. I think because he does have a short tail, it is easier for him to get around the current, and to the top for air.....which bettas need to breathe. I have a little flower pot in mine....which I got at home depot. he likes poking around in there. also, some taller, broad leaf plants would be good....since bettas like to rest on those.

bettas are a lot of fun, and addicting, I have 3. have fun and post a pic of the new boy (or girl)

PS. mine is in the kitchen also, and he loves seeing me and begging all the time lol
 

FriendsNotFood

Member
HI thar!

Lovely tank, your betta will love that ornament. I have a bridge and he lives sitting on top or hiding underneath it

I have a betta in the kitchen, right by the sink. Mine absolutely loves it. He goes crazy whenever someone goes into the kitchen, dancing his little heart out. Then when you go up close he sits and stares at you waiting to see what you'll do. He's always trying to get a look at what we're doing while cooking. Only issue is, sometimes when cooking the kitchen gets hot so I just put some specially made ice in his tank to keep him cool. He likes pushing it around with his face too

Grats, goodluck and post pics when you get a fishie!
 

ccb04

Member
Very nice tank. It'll be great for a betta.
 

lorabell

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I think ANY betta would love that tank!!!!! Great Job!!!!! I have one in the kitchen also.....he loves it!!!!!!Well I think he does....hes always poking around when were in there
 

Rhan

Member
I would love that tank if I were a betta A very nice little set up it is, good size too Make sure you post pictures when you buy one!
 

redlessi

Member
I think its a great tank for a betta............Just remember Bettas are like potato chips, you can't have just one.

Enjoy
 

bolivianbaby

Member
I think a betta would be very happy in that tank. It looks fabulous!

4 out of my 5 bettas are in my kitchen. They love to interact with us.
 
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Nancy Drew

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So, here is Jerry:


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I went and bought a heater and thermometer, and a plastic log cave. The log cave had a bunch of fake plants on it, which I cut off. Good thing I bought it, because Jerry has already done a few tours through it, and once when I left him alone I came back and found him hanging out in there.

There was this other betta in the store that was absolutely gorgeous and I really wanted him too . He just seemed to freak out when I picked up his cup, and he didn't seem too cool with us looking at him. I thought he might be too stressed out in our house. But I can't stop thinking about him!!! But I can't buy another tank setup! .

I've tried to convince my brother to go buy him, since he has kept a betta before. But he doesn't seem convinced, lol.
 

firemouthfreak

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Nancy Drew said:
There was this other betta in the store that was absolutely gorgeous and I really wanted him too . He just seemed to freak out when I picked up his cup, and he didn't seem too cool with us looking at him. I thought he might be too stressed out in our house. But I can't stop thinking about him!!! But I can't buy another tank setup! .

I've tried to convince my brother to go buy him, since he has kept a betta before. But he doesn't seem convinced, lol.
LOL these are the symptoms of a disease yet to come.. MTS
 

Tigerfishy

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Lovely betta, congrats!!

Did the tank cycle first? I know you said you wanted to cycle it, but it seems like an awfully short time for it to do so, unless I missed something sorry...
 

jerilovesfrogs

Member
I wondered the same thing tigerfishy.....about the tank being cycled. or maybe she used tss?

but he's a really pretty boy I have a CT and their fins are so lovely
 

Akari_32

Member
did you get the log at Wal-Mart? I have the small, tunnely log (also both sizes of the Hollow Tree Stump, but not for my betta) and he loves it so much! he likes to sit at the front of it with his head poking out and watch me XD and he likes to sleep on the big round leaves by the surface <3 he's so cute.

I love that blue! he's very pretty! I was looking at 3 Royal Blue Veil Tails at PetSmart the other day, but mom wouldnt let me get them T_T
 
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Nancy Drew

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I know, I was going to cycle, and I feel awful for not doing it. I have a long story full of excuses, but none of it matters really. I feel really bad, really I do. I do have the API water test kit, and I've tested it before Jerry entered the tank, and I've tested it again, and all is well right now. I'll monitor it closely and keep watching him. That part isn't difficult, I can't STOP watching him!! Neither can my cats, lol!

Akari, I intend to get the floating log thing, is that what you have? The current log thing is anchored in the bottom of the tank, but I think Jerry would like a floating one too since he doesn't have anywhere to hang out at the top of the tank right now. He does love swishing through the grassy plants, though. Man this is a spoiled fishy already! And thanks for the compliments on him.

I'm still thinking about the other fish :-\. It seems silly to get another tank, right? Ack! I have 3 cats, and now a fish. I don't want to be Crazy Pet Lady!!!
 

Tigerfishy

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Just be sure to change about 50% of the water every day using a water conditiooner like Prime or Amquel+ that will detox the ammonia for 24 hours until your tank properly cycles. It can take longer when cycling with a fish as you have to do constant water changes until the water parameters get to 0, 0 & under 20 (Ammonia, nitrites & nitrates respectively...).

Cycling with fish can cause lasting damage to them, this is your damage limitation schedule!!
 

marina3

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Welcome to fish-insanity!!! That is what bettas do to your brain...You can't stop thinking of their little faces on those tiny cups!!!
And although we know about the cycling without fish, I understand (specially having kids begging you for Mr Betta) not being able to wait, but now, the price to pay is constant check of water parameters and daily water changes!!! I know, is a pain, but you must do it! How long have you had your friend?? Maybe is not too late to add TetraSafe??? I have never used it but members here swear by it!!! If you are interested, you can start a New Thread asking about it...(adding the TetraSafe to a tank with recently added fish)
Good luck!! Your boy is very handsome!!!
 

Akari_32

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Nancy Drew said:
Akari, I intend to get the floating log thing, is that what you have? The current log thing is anchored in the bottom of the tank, but I think Jerry would like a floating one too since he doesn't have anywhere to hang out at the top of the tank right now. He does love swishing through the grassy plants, though. Man this is a spoiled fishy already! And thanks for the compliments on him.
It's not the floating one, its the Wal-Mart Brand (I think) 1/2 log thingy, that when you put it in, it looks like you have the bottom 1/2 stuck in the gravel.

And you're welcome! ^_^


This thing!

P.S. Don't mind Cornelious, he doesn't like rectangular objects lol XD
 

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Charlemagne

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Jerry is SO pretty! I really like him! I have the same log cave as Akari, and my betta likes it too, but he's busy most of the time flaring at his neighbor.
 
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Nancy Drew

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Well, Jerry didn't make it .

Maybe I'm in denial, but I don't think the water was responsible. I tested it regularly and my levels were all 0 (maybe my API tests aren't working?). Petco tested once and said my ammonia was a little high, but I did a partial water change/gravel vac later that day. He developed a white fluffy patch that appeared and disappeared, then overnight it took over . He had a stringy "beard" and it was on his eyes and near his tail. I was doing partial water changes, using an ammonia neutralizer, but it didn't work. I tried Betta Revive and bought antibiotics from a LFS. When I moved him to the "hospital" I knew he wouldn't make it. He just sort of flopped down .

One of my kids is devastated. Neither of them wants another Betta, though they do want another fish eventually. I've explained that this time we need to wait a long time, and they are OK with that. I kind of hope they change their minds about not wanting a Betta. The LFS has some Bettas that look much nicer than the Petco ones. Their cups were all perfectly clean, anyway.

Oh yeah, I went to the same Petco where Jerry came from, and the pretty Betta I left behind was dead in its cup. So were about 75% of the Bettas there. That's kind of why I don't think it was the water that killed him. I kind of think he was already sick. Again, maybe I'm in denial, but either way I plan to cycle this time, just to be sure.

Thanks for the comments on Jerry. He might not have been with us long, but we all did certainly love him.
 

Aquarist

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So sorry that you lost your Betta. Sounds like it may have been Columnaris. From my understanding it can be fatal quickly at times.

I'm glad that you've decided to cycle the tank first. Although I don't feel this was the issue with your fish it will surely help the next one to have a cycled tank

I wouldn't be surprised if the fish was ill prior to you purchasing it.

Best of luck with the cycle and please keep us posted.

Ken
 

Bad Wolf

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The white puffy stuff sounds like a bacteria infection thing (just a guess from what I have read once), and I've seen that stuff on my goldfish, who died from that a few weeks ago.

He was a beautiful fish, I'm sorry for your loss : (
 

Tigerlily

Member
So sorry you lost him. Jerry was a handsome boy. It does sound as though he was ill when you got him.
 

jerilovesfrogs

Member
sorry you lost jerry......I just lost (another) cory to something similar. this little white fluffy puff ball thing starts, then takes over and seems to eat away at the fish. it either started on the whiskers/face, or the fins. it was pretty fast. I tried treating with antI fungal, but that didn't do it. by the time I started with antibiotics, it was too late.

well, you could get another betta just for you! since you have the tank and all. it shouldn't go empty....all your hard work.
 

Akari_32

Member
oh no! that's terrible! one of my fish had that and he didnt make it either. you really have to catch it early, or meds won't help at all.

I don't like getting Bettas at PetCo, but they have so many variety, where PetSmart only has Veils male and female (just marked as 'Betta') , and male Crowntails. but they take much better care of them (tho its still not even considered 'good' care, to me.) then PetCo does. Sadly tho, I would rather get my Bettas (and any other fish) from the chain stores here then any of the local ones.
 

Charlemagne

Member
I'm so sorry about Jerry :console:
 

LICfish

Member
Sorry to hear about your loss. I've also lost a fish to similar symptoms.

I have the exact same tank which I used for dwarf puffer first (another fish that can be housed in a 5 gallon alone) and it is now home to a betta (Yoda). It looks like you've made a really nice home for a betta and I'm sure it'll work out better next time. Good luck!
 
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Nancy Drew

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Thanks, everyone.

We are still figuring out what to do next. I would love to do a community tank, but I'd need a bigger tank. And I'm not sure where I'd put that.

well, you could get another betta just for you! since you have the tank and all. it shouldn't go empty....all your hard work.
Enabler!

But that is definitely something to consider.

I don't like getting Bettas at PetCo, but they have so many variety, where PetSmart only has Veils male and female (just marked as 'Betta') , and male Crowntails. but they take much better care of them (tho its still not even considered 'good' care, to me.) then PetCo does. Sadly tho, I would rather get my Bettas (and any other fish) from the chain stores here then any of the local ones.
The Petco I went to apparently is horrible about their Bettas . Who knew. I stopped in at Petsmart a few days ago, to buy Jerry his floating log, and their Bettas were in clean cups with blue water (medicated). Most of them were swimming around and rather alert. At Petco the other day most were dead in cups of filthy water . Now, my LFS (which I just discovered the day Jerry died) has Bettas in teeny tiny cups, but they change the water every day. All of them looked quite healthy. they did have them out in tiny tanks too, which was just depressing. I mean, they were beautifully decorated, but so tiny! And the guys who work there want me to overcrowd my tank, which is so annoying. I mean, I think for the most part they know their stuff, but maybe just about larger tanks.
 

jerilovesfrogs

Member
glad to be an enabler whenever I can I have 3 bettas and they are all something I enjoy very much. so personable. there are so many colors, so many types.....all waiting to do their charming little wiggle dance for you!

if i'm at a lps/lfs, and I see dead fish anywhere, tanks, bowls etc, I will tell someone. I know employees have more to do than just stare in each tank for an hour....but still.....they have to feed the fish right? why not just look to see if things are how they should be. and this applies to a huge chain store, as well as a unique specialty store.
 
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