WIGGLERS!!!!!!!!!! I GOT WIGGLERS!!!!!

skippi

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Yippie I finally got to the wiggler stage. Just got home from work and decided to check on my babies. I thought all had died cause I couldn't find them on the slate. So I inspected the floor of the tank and there they were. All my little wigglers. I am so excited my boyfriend thinks I was going crazy but now he saw them. hahahahahaha.. this is so cool.. so now what should I do... I have a sponge on the filter so they can't get sucked up into it. and the bottom of the tank is clear no snails or gravel just glass.

YIPPIE......... ;D ;D ;D WIGGLERS!!!

Heidi
 
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skippi

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ok did a water change today an used some extra air hose to suck up the rest of the white eggs. At last count I still had 10 wigglers....

HEidi
 

Butterfly

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Yep it is certainly cool!!! Keep up the 50% water changes everyday. They won't need anything to eat for at least 3-4 days. Then you can give them fresh hatched brine shrimp or thawed frozen brine shrimp. Thawed frozen mysis shrimp would be ideal. After feeding, Give them about 10 minutes then vacuum up the leftovers. good Luck!
Carol
 

Isabella

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CONGRATS !!! Aren't they cute!?
 
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skippi

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ok thanks will do that and will let you know what happens

HEidi
 

Stradius011

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I think breeding fishes is really fun. Congrats! ;D
 
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skippi

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Thanks they are so cute just wigglin their lil tails. how long before they are free swimming???? I have 8 left that are still wigglin'

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Usually three to four days. If you look real close with a magnifying glass you can see that their yolk sac is gone. They won't eat until then, I wait until it's gone and feed teh next day.
Carol
 
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skippi

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ok so is it 3-4 days after hatching or 3-4 after becoming wigglers?? that is where I get confused. So far still have them all and they are still attached to the sacs or are those their tummies and the thing by their heads. have been changing the water also. Next time am using a bottle the ten gallon tank is just a tad too big for doing all ofthese water changes and the lil wigglers..... Ok will update again tomorrow
Thanks carol for helping me... and isabella too.. you guys are great

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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3-4 days from wiggler stage
Carol
 
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skippi

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ok thanks carol I have read that many places but they never explain when to go from. That is very helpful.. They are getting close .. was sucking up some more debris and they are starting to try and swim now so hopefully tomorrow they will take off...

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Aren't they funny, sometimes they just go around in circles
It's usually 3-4 days from egg to wiggler and 3-4 days from wigglers to free swimming give or take a day. I really think the temp has a lot to do with it. I always kept my fry tanks at about 80 F. Then on one batch I raised it to 82F. The eggs hatched faster and all the stages proceeded faster but the fry were smaller when they went free swimming. So just made sense to me. More seemed to survive when it takes them a little longer to go through the stages. Does that make sense?
Carol
 
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skippi

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yip just like cooking meat if ya do it longer but at lower temp you get more juicy meat.... same as fish take your time and don't over heat and you will get better results. jesh after having to wait nine months to have my kids you think 6-8 days wouldn't be that hard to do.. hehehe... they are starting to swim a little more just got some more gunk out of the water so maybe that will help.. The temp has been at 80 the whole time minus 1-2 degress when changing water. but always goes back to 80...

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Sounds good to me The water change fun really starts when they go free swimming, just try siphoning around all those tiny little bodies LOL that's why I always siphon fry tanks into a bucket, mush easier to scoop back in the tank.
Carol
 

Butterfly

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I forgot what size tank the babies are in If its not too big you can use needlepoint plastic(You know square with holes in it) to gently scoot all the babies down to one end while you siphon and clean their tank. Just an idea
Carol
 
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skippi

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That is a good idea. I siphoned them into a jar for now so I don't have to change so much water. So when I clean the tank they aren't in there. Less chance of loosing one. but the plastic canvas thing is a very good idea. just have to get the really small holed ones. the babies are really small i'd have to guess they are about the size of a baal of a needle with heads and tails sticking off of it.

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Yep they are really tiny But at about four weeks teh have tiny little fins and are so cute so they will grow fast.
Carol
 

LilaBean

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oooh!!! it is so exciting watching them grow!! You will have to post pics as they get bigger!! I love babies!! Congrats-- LILA
 
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skippi

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I hope I can get them to make it that long. This is the longest I have gotten to get them to grow so far. Of course there will be pics.... I'd take some now is they would show up.. maybe will try to get some and see what happens. So far they are still really small and not free awimming yet but they are trying...

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Baby steps
Carol
 
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skippi

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I know each day is a better day when I come down and find them still wiggling.. I got a couple pics of them.. not the best but you can see them..

here is another of one of them trying to swim on his head... with one one it's side watching... this one is blurry, sorry... it is so cute to watch.... the above picture has them all around the edge of the jar... there are 7 of them total...

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Break dancing?
Carol
 
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skippi

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;D it does look like that doesn't it... that is funny...

Heidi
 

Isabella

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I'm so glad they're doing well !!! ;D I can actually see them in the jar container (I think)
 
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skippi

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You probably are seeing them they are the dots along the edge... I have 2 of them that are free swimming now just waiting for the other 4 to get with the program.... Then I can start to feed them and watch them grow... Will add more pics as they get a little bigger.. or sooner depending on my moods... hehehe...

Heidi
 
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skippi

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ok daily update... I have 4 free swimming angels left. they are so cute... so now I have to get the brine shrimp to hatch to feen them.. and hopefully they will eat it..

Heidi
 
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skippi

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Alas I lost my last to babies. they wouldn't eat so they died. I guess it was bound to happen only started with like 10 wigglers so wasn't sure any would last past that... Will have to try again as soon as I get some more eggs...

Heidi
 

Butterfly

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Sorry you lost them Now you have the experience to succeed. Keep trying
Carol
 

Isabella

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I am so sorry you lost all of them But you WILL eventually get some of them to survive, you'll see When my Angelfish spawned, they must have laid anywhere betweeen 100 - 200 eggs (or so it looked to me). Of that amount, only about 30 became wigglers and went free-swimming. However, day after day, these tiny free swimmers would die one after another (I'd often find them sticking to the filter intake tube - which was wrapped in a stocking and the flow of water was very gentle). Only 11 made it. I worked really hard to keep them alive. I fed them 4 - 5 times a day in the beginning. I changed 50% of the water EVERY SINGLE DAY for the first 2 months. And somehow they survived and grew to be beautiful Angelfish So don't worry, yours will make it too. I don't think anybody gets it right the first time with Angelfish eggs.
 

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